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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:48 PM
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Bay Buchanan just said that she hates America on CNN.
She said America has an ugly soul.

Well then, Bay, why don't you just leave? Move to a more fascist country, if you hate America so much.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:50 PM
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1. someplace where dogmatic religion is the law of the land
is where her and her ilk should go. :scared:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:50 PM
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3. These religious nutcases hate freedom. nt
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:55 PM
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18. hmmm...Iran maybe? (nt)
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:59 PM
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22. probably not....they will have to form a new land
for dogmatic christians. perhaps invade some small country and kick the people who already live there out, or enslave them, claiming God says the land REALLY belongs to them and not the people who live there already. :shrug:
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:50 PM
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42. So, she agrees with 90% of the world. That's great. Finally seeing the
light! Go Bay
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:50 PM
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2. Bay Buchanan is now an America Hater
Looks like Bay supports the Terrorists!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:51 PM
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6. She hates freedom is what it sounds like to me. nt
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:51 PM
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4. She'd love it away from the USA!
Fundementalist Religions supressing the rights of women, other ethnic groups, LGBT...it'd be perfect! And torture! Just think! She's missed her calling.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:51 PM
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5. I've been hating a big part of America for over four years now n/t
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:51 PM
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7. How fascinating
I thought anti-war individuals and liberals were the only ones who "hated America." I guess when the courts stand firm and hold to the law and you don't like it, you automatically hate America. Good riddance, "Bay" (which is an apt name for her, baying hound that she is).
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:52 PM
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8. your subject line is just as inflammatory as her hateful and biased words
She never said she hates America but did say America has an ugly soul. Subject lines of bias and hate that are not true don't help!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:53 PM
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11. This is called "turnabout."
Personally, I think it's freakin' BEAUTIFUL.

Imagine if a liberal said that America has an "ugly soul." They'd be lynched.

So, Bay's going to take her medicine and like it.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:01 PM
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51. Yes. Tough titty, Bay.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 10:04 PM by Spiffarino
I'm through playing nice. Bring on the venom, DU. It's time to play by their rules and beat them at their own game. I can't wait to hear them whine.

One thing that might make it better, tho...you could change the title to "Bay Buchanan Hates America!" to make it a bit more accusatory.

Edit: Nominated.
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Tomee450 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:28 PM
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46. Exactly
I also saw that interview and she definitely did not say that she hated America. Bay was very passionate in stating her disgust over the way Terry died.
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:20 AM
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57. Did she FUCKING say it or not???
That's a simple question. A "true patriot" would never say that ... according to the wingnuts, anyway.

So I repeat: Did she say it, or not? Screw subject lines.

Bake
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:29 AM
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59. She said America has an "ugly soul."
Same thing.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:52 PM
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9. I can think of a few Islamic fundamentalist countries where she might
find a new home with a different kind of soul.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:56 PM
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20. I'll be happy to send her a burkha.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:52 PM
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10. But it's 'murikan when she does it.
Damned evil liberal killing bastards. :sarcasm:
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:54 PM
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16. Heh- no it ain't.
:P

I'm gonna go ahead and call her on it.
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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:53 PM
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12. Wait a second, isn't she part of the "Love it or leave it" side?
I guess Bay better start packing her bags.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:53 PM
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13. Is much of what is hateful/wrong about America due to Bay-types?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:30 PM
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39. IMHO,...yep,...definitely!!! eom
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:54 PM
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14. Bay, Pat....Move to France, hippy's!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:56 PM
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21. LOL, well said!! nt
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:54 PM
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15. That was a demonstration of how the right works
The speaker for the Dems tried to present a reasoned approach. Meanwhile Bay came out with a list of talking points to hit. Right off the bat she tied in abortion issues and extended it to disabled. Then she tore into Michael and tried to make him the villain with inuendo and slander.

THIS IS NOT INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING CNN!

This is giving airtime to political pundents. This is standing back and filming a mugging. Its not news. And the right has developed its tactics to fit this loss of real reporting. The left continues to try to play to a fair arena.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:55 PM
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17. So we hit them back.
Personally, I'm sick of these freedom-haters.
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 03:55 PM
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19. Which America, Bay?
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:00 PM
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23. I agree with her but it has nothing.................
to do with the Schiavo affair.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:01 PM
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24. Look in the Mirror Sweetie
You are part of the cause!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:49 PM
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50. She'll never
put two and two together publicially because that'd mean she was wrong and you can't have that. :eyes:
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:02 PM
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25. I will probably get flamed for my ignorance but who is Bay Buchanan
and why the hell should I give a damn what she thinks?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:04 PM
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26. Some freedom-hating fascist.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:04 PM by BullGooseLoony
I think she's Pat's wife.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:05 PM
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27. Pat's sister.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:10 PM
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29. Ahhh. nt
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:23 PM
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34. Were they in the same litter?
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:05 PM
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28. Sis
Big sister. Notice the resemblance, the same piggy-eyed smile, the karate chops for emphasis?
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:10 PM
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30. Haven't seen a pciture of her
I figured that because she was getting air time that she had some connection to Pat Buchanan but I didn't know what it was.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:24 PM
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35. Angela "Bay" Buchanan
President of The American Cause ( www.theamericancause.org ). Their mission statement: "The American Cause is an educational organization whose mission is to advance and promote traditional American values that are rooted in the conservative principles of national sovereignty, economic patriotism, limited government, and individual freedom."

Uh huh. Whatever. :eyes:

She's Pat Buchanan's little sister, and I believe "Bay" is a short form of her nickname "Baby", which fits her to a T; she's just another right-wing whiny titty-baby.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:27 PM
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37. But she just said that she hates America.
Why on Earth would she want to promote American values?

Wonder if they'll change their mission statement now.

"Now, just wait a minute on that 'freedom' part..."
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:55 PM
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43. Because in Bay's pea-sized brain, "American values" are
whatever she decides they are, such as protecting fetuses and brain-damaged patients. Everyone else can just piss off.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:16 PM
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31. Well, I hate sore losers
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:31 PM by rocknation
and that's all Bay is now that that Bush empire has crapped out on the Schiavo case.

Four out of five "ugly American souls" said they were against Terri's Law. President Mightymouse interrupted his vacation to rush to Terri's aid, leaving behind a child who was unplugged because he was poor. Jeb Bush could be investigated for planning to circumvent the Schiavo court order. Robert Frist put his credibility on the critical list by diagnosing Terri via a four-year-old video. Tom DeLay got caught planning to use Terri politically, and it turns out he unplugged his father. The GOP right-wing Christian leadership was besmriched by the fundie freak show that took place in front of Terri's hospice. The Dems sidestepped the MSM's efforts to brand them as culture-of-death merchants. And worst of all, Air America Radio is celebrating its first anniversary.

I think that Bay is perfectly justified to be in a bad mood.

:headbang:
rocknation
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:18 PM
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32. she wasn't talking about torture, was she.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 04:24 PM by enki23
or about the many tens of thousands of civilians dead because of an aggressive war we waged on false pretenses, most likely, or out of pure incompetence, as if that were better. she wasn't talking about holding innocent persons for years without charging them of any crimes, about routinely torturing--sometimes to death--many of those same persons. many of them also innocent of any crime. she wasn't talking about our training of terrorists down in georgia, for south american fear campaigns. she wasn't talking about the millions of americans with inadequate health care, much less the millions more without *affordable* healthcare. she wasn't talking about all the infants who are born damaged, and many who die, due to inadequate prenatal care. she wasn't talking about the law being passed by the michigan legislature which allows physicians to refuse treatment to anyone they don't like, especially if they don't like them because they're gay. she isn't talking about any of those things, is she.

she's not even talking about the black baby in texas who was removed from a respirator against the mother's wishes, at the behest of the state, because the baby suffered from an incurable form of dwarfism, but more importantly because the mother couldn't pay.

she's talking about removing the life support from an all but brain dead, equally incurable shell of a white woman in florida, in what was a private dispute between her parents and her husband but was turned into a media circus at the behest of opportunistic repuglican political operatives. that's what she's talking about, isn't it.

but she's right, much of america has a very ugly soul indeed. and people like her contribute in no small way to that ugliness.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:21 PM
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33. No, not leave. Let's have a bloodless separation. We get to keep
our Constitution and Bill of Rights. They get the version of a constitution that the Fed Society and PNAC has already written. It's time to split the country and separate physically. I first wrote it in disgust, I'm beginning to think it's the only way. Why be taken over? We're both so miserable the way it is now. Just think of it as a constitutional divorce. Some people will have to move. They can fight their own imperialistic wars without us.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:48 PM
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41. We do seem to have some irreconcilable differences, huh. n/t
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:25 PM
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36. Afghanistan is nice this time of year
And it's already got the pseudo-democratic fascism that Ms. Buchanan obviously craves.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:39 PM
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40. and it's safe, too.
Just ask Laura. :eyes:

:hi: EvolveOrConvolve - Welcome to DU!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:29 PM
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38. Go to Sweden ya damn hippie!
;-)
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chomskyite_naderite Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:46 PM
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48. ha ha
turnabout is fair play!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:01 PM
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44. she'd fit right in in some banana republic dictatorship
as some strutting fascist military leader's personal cigar holder.

But then again, I hate Murka on CNN too.
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Neshanic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 05:24 PM
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45. Bay and her brother are never seen in the same place...Hmmmm
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:39 PM
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47. No Bay - America's Soul is seemingly ugly because it has been
turned adolescent by Karl Rove. Tribalism, scapegoating, coercion, baiting the weak/hurt, are all things Karl & his machine have been teaching Freepers and others.. in order to diminish the pluralities and have elite rule.

America's ugly soul is a reflection of the truth of this White House.

It is what tribalism is about Bay ... you want the conservatives to rule without making the lives of Americans better so you fool the voters into voting on petty. You get the tribal rule you want to have power. And it looks ugly.

Yes it does Bay. You have some work to do.
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:35 PM
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53. ...sold to big corporations.
The marketing/advertising industry's lifeblood is in discouraging rational thought and promoting petty. How else do you convince masses of people to spend money they don't have on shit they don't need?

Rove et al. just seems to be the logical next step from that.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:14 AM
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54. I think they are part of the same team. Not all corporations are like that
It seems to have something to do with a certain generation of MBA. And it exists elsewhere..the vision (private schools everywhere). Though it really didn't take hold everywhere like it did in the USA. And Rove & his ilk then can step forward and remake the image even more 'cold as ice' and souless.

I wish Bay knew enough to admit the problem is not with all of America. Just certain elites try and teach the lesson of how to enjoy others in pain and how to be tribal in your heart (rather than human).
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 08:46 PM
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49. Yep
I've heard Canada is quite nice. Or France or Mexico?
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 10:03 PM
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52. Gee, she sounds just like one o' us lefties
how special.

Who's left to love America. Sniff.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:25 AM
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55. And she's...
The festering cyst on the unwiped ass of that ugly soul.
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Biased Liberal Media Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:10 AM
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56. Who the hell is Bay Buchanan??
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:19 AM
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58. twisted cow needs to go back to Australia where she got God.
Sorry, Oz. Can you take her for a while?
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