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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:09 PM
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Silberman: intel community was "absolutely uniform" on WMD
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15908-2005Mar31.html

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QUESTION: Could it have been possible that there was perhaps this culture created inside the intelligence community, knowing that this administration in particular was very eager to deal with Saddam Hussein?

SILBERMAN: Let me try to answer that question, if I can.
The intelligence community was quite resistant to notions that there was an important connection between Saddam and Al Qaida or terrorism. They rejected that notion even though they were questioned on it a number of times.

With respect to weapons of mass destruction, it's the opposite case, it's the opposite situation. The intelligence community was absolutely uniform and uniformly wrong about the existence of weapons of mass destruction.

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:11 PM
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1. Do I or don't I distinctly remember someone saying...
"Slam dunk"?

Or something like that...

Hmm...

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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:14 PM
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3. That's why he got that Medal of Freedom.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:24 PM
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10. And then got shit-canned.
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camitche Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:13 PM
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2. This is great story that shows that we were right from the beginning
but it's old news isn't it. I mean there have been many reports starting with david gray, and 9/11 report that have said basically the same thing.

I'll summarize: The intel community had little information and it was wrong. Bush, Rove, etc. used incorrect information and spun it even further with an addition of Iraq thrown in for good times.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:17 PM
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5. The comeback
"Yeah but now the Iraqis are free."

Remember Free Societies don't make war or something.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:25 PM
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13. That and no planes have flown into our buildings.
The stupid SOBs.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:16 PM
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4. Funny. I remember reading disparate views in the NYT in late 2002 and
Edited on Thu Mar-31-05 02:29 PM by DemItAllAnyway
early 03. I'm almost positive there were either op-eds written by intelligence folks or they were quoted in items contradicting the prevailing view. Wasn't there an op-ed about Cheney strong-arming the CIA, having a physical presence over there, to get them to conclude what he wanted them to conclude? This really sounds like that 1984 trope about rewriting history. Damn!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:20 PM
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8. there was plenty of dissent on WMD
on every aspect, the aluminum tubes, the uranium from Africa, all of it.

For me, this quote destroys any trace of credibility of this commission, not that they had any to begin with.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:17 PM
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6. Does anyone else find this statement unsettling?
"The following is a transcript of a joint press conference on Terri Schiavo and Weapons of Mass Destruction"


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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:06 PM
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18. Hmmm. The difference between destruction and
DISTRACTION, I reckon.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:19 PM
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7. David Brocks "Blinded By the Right" exposes Silberman as a right wing hack
The type that really turns your stomach. :puke:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:25 PM
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14. holy shit
I didn't know any of this. It looks like Bush couldn't have picked a more blatant partisan thug if he tried. What a fucking insult, I can't believe the press is even giving this travesty the time of day.

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=13902
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:21 PM
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9. Strange that Scott Ritter was making public appearances
as late as mid March 2003 and saying that as far as he knew, Iraq didn't have any WMD, and no proof of these weapons existed. This report is simply a cya whitewash for the chimp administration.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:24 PM
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11. This is from a different article but it really highlights
the fact that bush co didn't have bad Intel, it shows that they were deliberately using questionable Intel to sell the war.

How the weapons evidence crumbled
By Bob Drogin, Greg Miller
Washington
March 29, 2004


The Bush Administration's prewar claims that Saddam Hussein had built a fleet of trucks and railway wagons to produce anthrax and other deadly germs were based chiefly on information from a now discredited Iraqi defector codenamed "Curveball", according to current and former intelligence officials.

US officials never had direct access to the defector, and didn't even know his real name until after the war. Instead, his story was provided by German agents, and his file was so thick with detail that US officials thought it confirmed long-standing suspicions that the Iraqis had developed mobile germ factories to evade weapons inspections.

Curveball's story has since crumbled under doubts raised by the Germans and the scrutiny of US arms hunters, who have come to see his code name as particularly apt, given the problems that plagued much prewar intelligence collection and analysis.

UN inspectors first hypothesised that such trucks might exist, officials said. Then they asked former exile leader Ahmed Chalabi, a bitter enemy of Saddam, to help search for intelligence supporting their theory.

Soon afterwards, a young chemical engineer emerged in a German refugee camp and claimed he had been hired to design and build bio-warfare trucks for the Iraqi army.

Based largely on his account, US President George Bush and his aides repeatedly warned of the shadowy germ trucks, and they became a crucial part of the White House case for war - including US Secretary of State Colin Powell's dramatic presentation to the UN Security Council just weeks before the war began.

Only later, US officials said, the CIA discovered that the defector was the brother of one of Mr Chalabi's top aides, and began suspecting that he might have been coached to provide false information. Partly as a result, US intelligence officials and congressional investigators fear that the CIA inadvertently conjured up and then chased a phantom weapons system.

David Kay, who resigned in January as head of the CIA-led group created to find illicit weapons in Iraq, said that of the intelligence failures in Iraq, the case of Curveball was particularly troubling.
http://www.theage.com.au/cgi-bin/common/popupPrintArticle.pl?path=/articles/2004/03/28/1080412234079.html
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:24 PM
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12. The intel community was absolutely MIXED on WMD
They supposed Saddam would make them given the chance, and because they supposed that, they saw WMD threats everywhere. Except for the ones who didn't, which are still being ignored.

Which is why we needed an honest inspections process.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:29 PM
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15. There was an honest inspections process.
This administration just SAID there wasn't.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 02:55 PM
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16. That's what I was referring to
An honest inspections process that wasn't distorted by the administration and varying stooges.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-05 04:04 PM
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17. Terri's dead, the Pope is dying and tommorrow's Friday. This report
is doomed to go quietly into the night.
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