To those who feel the law should not decide the Schiavo case

[mondo joe]

because you don't like the rulings, what system do you suggest we Americans use to resolve such disputes?

[goodboy]

1. hooket on fonecks...(nt)

[democracyindanger]

31. that's some funny shit

[Just Me]

2. Dear Joe, I confess that our judicial system could be improved.

I would like to somehow destroy the influence of money and politics on that branch of our government. Moreover, I would like to punish all those who abuse that branch of government.

However, without that branch of government,...the one that at least has the responsibility of ensuring that a "rule of law" holds together this nation of ours,...no matter how imperfectly,...this nation and the experiment of "democracy" for which it stands,...would FAIL and FALL.

[Floogeldy]

33. I beg your pardon?

Please provide evidence that money and politics influence our judiciary. Moreover, identify the judges that are abusing that branch of government, and specify the punishment you think they should receive.

Thank you very much for your answers.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

3. How 'bout a Crusade to crush the infidels?

:P

Or a trial to determine what witch put a spell on Terri? Then we could burn them at the stake.

[mondo joe]

4. Maybe we could just poll everyone in the United States

every time there's a dispute among family members.

What difference does the law make anyway?

[Kathy in Cambridge]

18. The law doesn't matter anymore, nor the Constitution

:eyes:

[mondo joe]

20. Right - because courts aren't perfect, no laws need apply.

I keep seeing it on DU - but no one seems to be able to suggest an alternative.

[IndianaGreen]

5. If you don't like the law, change the law

and the law, or the laws in this case, shall be changed.

[mondo joe]

6. Which law should be changed and on what legal grounds?

Thank you.

[IndianaGreen]

7. You don't need a "legal ground" to change a law

all you need is the votes in the legislature.

[mondo joe]

8. Fine. Which law or laws specifically do you suggest changing.

[IndianaGreen]

9. That's a state issue

so it will be up to like-minded citizens in each state to review and change the laws in their respective states.

[mondo joe]

11. Which law do YOU suggest be changed?

[IndianaGreen]

15. I can only speak for my own state

and we will see what happens next year when the legislature meets again. It is too late for anything this year. Our legislature has been too busy on more mundane matters.

I am sure that there will be some Meetups about this.

[mondo joe]

16. I'm talking about the Schiavo case. If you're unhappy with the laws

that determined this outcome, which laws do you think should be changed?

Can you name even one?

[IndianaGreen]

19. I don't live in Florida

Sorry to burst your balloon.

[mondo joe]

21. That doesn't stop you from complaining about the law. So what

do you suggest be changed specifically?

[IndianaGreen]

23. This is what your thread is all about..

To those who feel the law should not decide the Schiavo case because you don't like the rulings, what system do you suggest we Americans use to resolve such disputes?

My reply was to change the law. Or do you find that concept disturbing? Surely you don't advocate that people take the law into their own hands! Or do you assume that everyone that disagrees with Judge Greer's ruling on the Schiavo, or other domestic dispute cases, is an advocate of vigilante justice?

I will remind you of what you have posted about respecting the law the day you find a law that you don't like. And I will also remind you that if you don't like a particular law, that you should get together with other like minded citizens and try to change it.

[mondo joe]

24. So WHICH law do you think should be changed?

You've got opinions about the Schiavo case - which law do you think was the problem?

I don't know why that's such a challenge for you.

[IndianaGreen]

25. I won't take your bait

It appears that the intend of your original post was nothing more than flame baiting.

[mondo joe]

26. Got it. You can complain about the law in general but can't cite

any one law in this case you think should be changed.

[IndianaGreen]

27. I am not familiar with the Florida Code

plus I am not a Florida resident.

[mondo joe]

28. I see. You know enough to complain about it, but not enough to

even suggest what might be changed.

[IndianaGreen]

29. I don't understand the prosecutorial tone...

My feelings are hoit...

:cry:

[mondo joe]

30. S'okay. There are a lot of people who complain up a storm but

never have any idea how to fix the things they complain about.

[mondo joe]

34. Well I am SHOCKED to see no solutions presented!

After all the complaints that the courts aren't perfect I'd expect to see SOME idea about what could have been done differently.

[Lauri16]

10. Does the law not say

that a spouse is the next of kin? This never should have been an issue in the courts at all.

[mondo joe]

12. Anything can be challenged. And even an unsuccessful challenge

can tie up a case for years.

[Carolab]

32. Yes. The "legal issue", if any, really, was guardianship.

The parents thought they should call the shots instead of Michael.
Spouses and children are the most immediate family and make these decisions; if the person is not married the parents (if living) decide. The Schindlers didn't like the way Michael handled things and they wanted to take over.

[madfloridian]

13. It has been in the courts for years.

The law did decide it already. It is just that the right wing does not like what the law said, so they are calling it judicial failure.
It is scary stuff.

[mondo joe]

14. There are DUers who feel justice was not done - I would like to

know what they suggest as an alternative to the legal system.

[Lauri16]

17. Stop the attention seekers from filing lawsuits.

That's all this whole thing was about. If it weren't, they wouldn't be upsetting the lives of the other patients and families. The fact that they're out there with bullhorns tells me that it's all about the attention and nothing more.


or should it be court orders? I don't think lawsuit is the right word.

*edited to add question

[liberal43110]

22. Create a new federal law:

Ban death at the federal level. Everyone should be hooked up to respirators, feeding tubes, pacemakers, and dialysis machines indefinitely. Truly a culture of life, no?

:eyes: