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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:16 PM
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Debunking AP's new report of planned 'chemical attack'
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 01:34 PM by Career Prole
No f'ing way will I put this in LBN, because I'd have to use the headline AP: Iraq Detainee Plotted Chemical Attack and there's no way in good conscience that I could use a misleading headline like that in LBN.

Check out how the story begins...

AP: Iraq Detainee Plotted Chemical Attack
WASHINGTON - U.S. officials say a terror suspect imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay is a former Iraqi soldier and al-Qaida member who plotted with an Iraqi intelligence agent in August 1998 to attack the American and other foreign embassies in Pakistan with chemical weapons, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.


Ooh...it has it all! Iraqi soldier!! al Qaeda!! Plotting!! Chemical weapons!! It's a McLellan wet dream of a story.
(Add to that the fact that the terra-ist is penned up at Guantanamo Bay so Shrub, Rummy, and Ashcrap have all kept us safe from the WMD's by waging the war on terra their way over all our liberal whining.)

Then you read the rest of the story to mine the truth...

<snip>
"There is no public record of such an attempt being made, although the Islamabad embassy staff was reduced that month amid heightened security concerns following the Aug. 7 truck bomb attacks on the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania..."

<snip>

"There is no indication the Iraqi's alleged terror-related activities were on behalf of Saddam Hussein's government, other than the brief mention of him traveling to Pakistan with a member of Iraqi intelligence..."

<snip>

"The assertion that the Iraqi was involved in a plot against embassies in Pakistan is not further substantiated in the document. It states only that he traveled to Pakistan in August 1998 with a member of Iraqi intelligence "for the purpose of" striking at embassies with chemical mortars.

The CIA-led Iraq Survey Group that spent months in Iraq investigating its weapons programs wrote in its final report last September that an insurgent group in Iraq had managed to build nine chemical mortars in 2003 using malathion pesticide, although they apparently were not used. Malathion is in a highly toxic class of pesticides that affect the central nervous, cardiovascular and respiratory systems."


Hmmm...after the big lead-up this "document" the AP military writer cites has, weellll...no meat. Whatsoever.

Even those deadly chemical mortars the reporter mentioned were cobbled together by the insurgency in 2003 so it's pretty obvious these particular chemical weapons weren't what shrub's invasion was about.

Ooh...but how 'bout that malathion stuff, huh? What about that? The reporter said that's a "highly toxic class of pesticides that affect the central nervous, cardiovascular and respiratory systems"!
This terra-ist was planning some serious death and destruction!

Let's see about that claim then, because it certainly sounds frightening, doesn't it?

Malathion

"Regulatory Status:
Malathion is a slightly toxic compound in EPA toxicity class III. Labels for products containing it must carry the Signal Word CAUTION. Malathion is a General Use Pesticide (GUP). It is available in emulsifiable concentrate, wettable powder, dustable powder, and ultra low volume liquid formulations...

Introduction:
Malathion is a nonsystemic, wide-spectrum organophosphate insecticide. It was one of the earliest organophosphate insecticides developed (introduced in 1950). Malathion is suited for the control of sucking and chewing insects on fruits and vegetables, and is also used to control mosquitoes, flies, household insects, animal parasites (ectoparasites), and head and body lice. Malathion may also be found in formulations with many other pesticides.

Environmental Fate:
Breakdown in soil and groundwater: Malathion is of low persistence in soil with reported field half-lives of 1 to 25 days <19>. Degradation in soil is rapid and related to the degree of soil binding <12>. Breakdown occurs by a combination of biological degradation and nonbiological reaction with water <12>. If released to the atmosphere, malathion will break down rapidly in sunlight, with a reported half-life in air of about 1.5 days."



Not to make light of malathion...it isn't healthy to be around, but a cobbled-together mortar incorporating a "slightly toxic" pesticide which is put on our food, our asses and our heads with the blessing of the U.S. government being called a "chemical weapon"?! Give me a break!

Right now this story is listed under the Politics/White House section on YahooNews...rate it a "1" and keep it off the front page.
It's pure crap.







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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:24 PM
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1. done--but there's only 15 votes and it's at 3.5, so...
maybe post again in another forum, and title it "Rate this article!" or something.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:25 PM
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2. done. eom
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:11 PM
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9. Thanks...I just took your suggestion.
'Preciate it! :thumbsup:
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:27 PM
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3. Nominated
Although I might suggest a little more context in the title, like "Debunking AP's new report of planned 'chemical attack'," so that when it shows up in the Greatest list (like it is now!), that folks will quickly know this is the place to see your outstanding analysis that dumps this AP report in the toilet where it belongs.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:36 PM
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5. Done! Thanks for the suggestion.
I'm a lousy headline writer. Maybe the AP will give me a tryout. ;)
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:30 PM
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4. My father routinely sprayed the lawn with malathion
...in the 60's before it was taken off the market.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:53 PM
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6. Nice catch.. PROPAGANDA at its finest... sounds like its right out..
of the pentagon.. and it may just be with all the fake news this government spews. Funny how if you torture a man long enough, it turns out he DID do what you said he did.. this is as bogus as the bush assasination guy!
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:00 PM
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7. It has 21 votes.
You have given the news article AP: Iraq Detainee Plotted Chemical Attack a rating of 1.
Its current average rating is 2.82 with 21 vote(s).
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:03 PM
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8. 2.84 @ 24 votes
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:30 PM
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10. 2.14 @ 58 votes.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 02:32 PM by paineinthearse
My "1" vote brought it down from 2.16 to 2.14

You have given the news article AP: Iraq Detainee Plotted Chemical Attack a rating of 1.
Its current average rating is 2.14 with 58 vote(s).
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:37 PM
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11. Excellent debunking.
You also averted a firestorm in LBN.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:16 PM
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12. Always good to avert a firestorm.
Especially in LBN! :hi:
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 04:41 PM
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13. This AP reporter, Robert Burns, has a lackluster record
to say the least. Although not all of his reports have been entirely favorable to the military (reporting on declining black recruitment, OBL escape from Tora Bora, etc.) and I'm sure he's overworked, most of his stories fall in the category of passing on pentagon press releases. AP could do that with a FAX machine -but don't give them any ideas.

Some of the great AP reporters and photographers of the past have became personal heroes, and that makes it particularly difficult to watch the agency's slide. It seems that simple fact checking is getting beyond their grasp, and we see it often. Comparing various news agency reports via the internet, plus firsthand reports, makes each slip of the standards painful to watch and impossible to tolerate.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:08 PM
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14. Damn Burns...his "story" has spread like a virus!
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:51 PM
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15. Maybe this is why they bombed all the wastewater treatment plants
using chlorine to disinfect and treat drinking water...

BTW, phosgene is a byproduct of burning some waste products (won't say which) but ...

US govt policies re Iraq and the Middle East in general are about as screwed up now as they possibly can be.

Let's just get busy finding alternatives to oil and be done with the whole region. They all want visas to come to the US and EU (to finalize the 'caliphate' anyway).
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wookie294 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:06 PM
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16. White House will get its justification for war
I hate to say it, but the bastards in the White House will get their "justification" for the war, one way or another -- with the help of the media. Since most of America supported the invasion, most of America wants to BELIEVE the war is justified. They're "dying" to find a shred of evidence (or even a LIE) to live in denial about this unnecessary war. America has become a cult, a Republican Cult.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 06:37 PM
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17. Nah...don't ever give up! Just stay on top of it.
I'm hoping they put this story in my paper tonight so I can write a LTTE about it tomorrow.
At least most of the media outlets who've picked this malarkey up off the wire are stating the U.S. military is making this claim.

KFMB in San Diego, on the other hand, has it headlined "Iraq Detainee Plotted Chemical Attack".
Talk about editorial abuse!

Welcome to DU, wookie294! :hi:
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