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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:26 PM
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Press release: Christian Coalition tries to resurrect JEB! in public eye
Washington D.C. -- Christian Coalition of America wrote a letter to Florida Governor Jeb Bush this afternoon commending him for his efforts to try to save the life of Terri Schiavo. The letter from the President of Christian Coalition, Roberta Combs,

said: "...I would like to commend you for everything that you have done to try and save the life of Terri Schiavo. Your willingness to go the 'extra mile' for Terri and her family is to be commended. We appreciate everything that you have done for standing up on the side of 'life'....".

Christian Coalition believes that America is in a moral crisis because of a judiciary which has forsaken commonsense and the United States Constitution. There has been utter contempt by the Florida state courts and the federal judiciary for the United States Congress and for the President of the United States and for what they tried to do to save Terri Schiavo. The Founding Fathers wanted the people's branch of the American government, the United States Congress to be the most influential branch. The branch which the Founding Fathers intended to be the weakest of the 3 branches has assumed almost dictatorial powers. Christian Coalition commends the efforts of the United States Congress, President George W. Bush and Governor Jeb Bush in their valiant efforts to save the life of Terri Schiavo.

http://cc.org/content.cfm?id=198
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:29 PM
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1. Why does this not surprise me ? n/t
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:36 PM
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2. Yeah come 06 - 08 bet they just flood tv commercials with this one
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phoebe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:38 PM
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3. yet another hypocrite..
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 03:40 PM by phoebe
http://www.thehill.com/news/031704/divorce.aspx


snip

The proceeding involves Tracy Ammons, CCA’s former Senate lobbyist and outreach coordinator,and Michele Combs, CCA vice president for communications and the daughter of CCA President Roberta Combs.

Combs and Ammons were wed in December 1999, but their marriage soon disintegrated and was replaced with lawsuits, countersuits and even jail time over relatively small amounts of money that hinge on custody of their 3 1/2-year-old child.

“While the nation debates traditional marriage versus gay marriage, the president of the Christian Coalition, Roberta Combs, is encouraging and bankrolling a nasty, hardball divorce by her own daughter,” said Jonathon Moseley, an attorney for Ammons.

Moseley asserts the Combses offered to drop their civil claims against Ammons if he would give up his battle for custody of their child.

“If he would sign away his rights as a father, then they have offered to drop all claims,” said Moseley.


Don't forget this lawsuit...

www.sptimes.com/News/030801/Worldandnation/Christian_Coalition_b.shtml

The women allege they were prohibited from entering the front door of the coalition's Capitol Hill-area offices. The employees say they were told to enter the back door but were not given key cards to unlock it, forcing them to pound on the door for entry.

The lawsuits said Combs made statements that black staffers would wear out an oriental rug in the reception area if allowed to come and go through the front door.

Combs also allegedly said "she did not want important people seeing the 'girls' from remittance/data entry in the reception area."

Furthermore, the black employees say they were segregated from whites in a break area because Combs thought they were "talkative and waste too much time in the kitchen."


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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:51 PM
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4. Moral values? Umm...not so much... nt
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:56 PM
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5. "The branch which the Founding Fathers intended to be the weakest..."
This line is a favorite sounding board of the neo-cons, fundies, and wingnuts. They, as usual, cherry-pick their points, this time from Hamilton's contributions to The Federalist Papers.

A typical example of taking Hamilton's words out of their context:
Alexander Hamilton stated that "The judiciary, from the nature of its functions, will always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution...the judiciary is, beyond comparison, the weakest of the three departments of power...and the general liberty of the people can never be endangered from that quarter." Hamilton had much confidence in that statement because he had Constitutional backing for it.

The original context (emphasis mine):

Whoever attentively considers the different departments of power must perceive, that, in a government in which they are separated from each other, the judiciary, from the nature of its functions, will always be the least dangerous to the political rights of the Constitution; because it will be least in a capacity to annoy or injure them. The Executive not only dispenses the honors, but holds the sword of the community. The legislature not only commands the purse, but prescribes the rules by which the duties and rights of every citizen are to be regulated. The judiciary, on the contrary, has no influence over either the sword or the purse; no direction either of the strength or of the wealth of the society; and can take no active resolution whatever. It may truly be said to have neither FORCE nor WILL, but merely judgment; and must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments.

This simple view of the matter suggests several important consequences. It proves incontestably, that the judiciary is beyond comparison the weakest of the three departments of power; that it can never attack with success either of the other two; and that all possible care is requisite to enable it to defend itself against their attacks. It equally proves, that though individual oppression may now and then proceed from the courts of justice, the general liberty of the people can never be endangered from that quarter; I mean so long as the judiciary remains truly distinct from both the legislature and the Executive. For I agree, that "there is no liberty, if the power of judging be not separated from the legislative and executive powers." And it proves, in the last place, that as liberty can have nothing to fear from the judiciary alone, but would have every thing to fear from its union with either of the other departments; that as all the effects of such a union must ensue from a dependence of the former on the latter, notwithstanding a nominal and apparent separation; that as, from the natural feebleness of the judiciary, it is in continual jeopardy of being overpowered, awed, or influenced by its co-ordinate branches; and that as nothing can contribute so much to its firmness and independence as permanency in office, this quality may therefore be justly regarded as an indispensable ingredient in its constitution, and, in a great measure, as the citadel of the public justice and the public security."


A reading of the full document, from the Federalist Papers, illuminates his actual meaning. http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa78.htm

Some relevant paragraphs they fail to take note of:

The complete independence of the courts of justice is peculiarly essential in a limited Constitution. By a limited Constitution, I understand one which contains certain specified exceptions to the legislative authority; such, for instance, as that it shall pass no bills of attainder, no ex post facto laws, and the like. Limitations of this kind can be preserved in practice no other way than through the medium of courts of justice, whose duty it must be to declare all acts contrary to the manifest tenor of the Constitution void. Without this, all the reservations of particular rights or privileges would amount to nothing.

Some perplexity respecting the rights of the courts to pronounce legislative acts void, because contrary to the Constitution, has arisen from an imagination that the doctrine would imply a superiority of the judiciary to the legislative power. It is urged that the authority which can declare the acts of another void, must necessarily be superior to the one whose acts may be declared void. As this doctrine is of great importance in all the American constitutions, a brief discussion of the ground on which it rests cannot be unacceptable.

There is no position which depends on clearer principles, than that every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the tenor of the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid. To deny this, would be to affirm, that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above his master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people themselves; that men acting by virtue of powers, may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid.

(snip)

Nor does this conclusion by any means suppose a superiority of the judicial to the legislative power. It only supposes that the power of the people is superior to both; and that where the will of the legislature, declared in its statutes, stands in opposition to that of the people, declared in the Constitution, the judges ought to be governed by the latter rather than the former. They ought to regulate their decisions by the fundamental laws, rather than by those which are not fundamental.


But of course, when you're out to overthrow the existing order in favor of fasicm or theocracy, truth is a minor inconvenience, easily dispensed with.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:04 PM
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7. Hmmm, from your subject line
I assumed your post would be about the executive. :shrug:


But of all our founding fathers, I find it easiest to believe that Hamilton might have wanted the judiciary to be the weakest. I can't see why agreeing with Hamilton on almost any issue would be a good thing though?
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:13 PM
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8. He wasn't *wanting* any branch to be the weakest.
But his words get taken out of context to attack the Judiciary today, primarily by the wingnut element.

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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:32 PM
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9. I'm not saying he did
Many of our founding fathers *did* intend for our executive branch to be incredibly weak, though. I think they would be appalled at the "bully pulpit" into which the presidency has evolved. Though not necessarily surprised.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 03:59 PM
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6. Ironically these are the people who are showing the same
problems that cropped up the same as under Jesus

These 'Pharasies' have put huge focus upon purity at the cost of forsaking that which is 'good' over that which is 'pure' striving t an ideal while igoring the real lessons so that they can manipulate people to their own ends.
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