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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:44 AM
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A thought on what else might be motivating the Bush Bros. re: Shiavo
God and George W. Bush

. . . Pauline Robinson “Robin” Bush started to show symptoms in February 1953, just after the birth of her baby brother Jeb. She simply wanted to lie down all day. Mysterious bruises began appearing on her body. The Bushes took her to Dr. Dorothy Wyvell, renowned in West Texas pediatrics, who was shocked by the test results. She told the Bushes that the child’s white blood cell count was the highest she had ever seen, and the cancer was already too advanced to treat. She recommended they simply take Robin home and allow nature to take its course, sparing all of them the agony of futile medications.

The Bushes couldn’t do that. George’s father, George H. W. Bush, had an uncle in New York who was president of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center. They agreed to do everything they could in the hope of some kind of breakthrough.

Barbara Bush was constantly at Robin’s side during the hospital stay. . .

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5748598

Though I think there are political motivations related their handling of this matter I think this personal story could be impacting them as well.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:47 AM
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1. Or it could be these four simple words:
Karl Rove Karen Hughes
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:52 AM
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3. And one more word...
opportunity
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:51 AM
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2. there might be something to your perception--coupled with their REPORTED
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 08:53 AM by flordehinojos
INABILITY TO GRIEVE. I have read that the day, or the day after the little girl's funeral POPPY and BABS went out to play golf and really never took time to G R I E V E for their dead daughter.


this is from a friend's memorial service (I have also pasted it onto another post)

TIME OF RECONCILIATION, ALSO FROM A FRIEND'S MEMORIAL SERVIE.

Loving God, we have shared in the life of this good person,
We have shared joys and sorrows, sickness and health.
We ask for forgiveness for any lack on our part,
for the times when we may have failed her.
We forgive her for any hurt or sadness
she may have caused us.
Lord, keep her in your embrace.
We ask too, that you fill us with your peace,
peace of heart, mind and soul.
Give us the grace to continue to live our lives,
in a manner that is pleasing to you.
AMEN.


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LiberalinNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:54 AM
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4. That's just COLD!
OMG - If that is true that is unbelievable. My neighbors lost their 5 year 12/26/03 and they still are not over losing their son. Yes they have somewhat moved on w/ their lives, but they are not the same people I knew.

I can see why people call Babs "the mother BITCH!".
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:02 AM
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5. People grieve in different ways, some reconcile it others never do
This is from a Washington Post series of articles:

At age 7, Bush found himself surrounded by bewildering grief. His parents were not even 30 years old, trying to move past a devastating loss while raising George W. and his baby brother Jeb.

The death left indelible scars on the Bushes. Barbara Bush still has trouble talking about her daughter's death. Her husband would cite the experience when he ran for president and was asked if he had ever known hardship. George W.'s eyes welled with tears when discussing his sister in an interview in May.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072699.htm

I do not mean to defend them, but grief is a very personal thing. I thought the death of the sister may have some impact on the handling of the matter. I do not discount political motivations by the administrations, but did this experience push them over the edge. The book "Bush on the Couch" goes into this matter in detail.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:11 AM
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8. Der Hauptpunkt ist
their total LACK OF EMPATHY OR RESPECT for anyone in the same situation, particularly those not within their "class."
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:08 AM
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6. maybe it should have motivtated them to give Americans healthcare
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:10 AM
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7. all the more reason not to turn their backs on baby Sun in Texas!
sorry, I only see selectively sanctimonious and opportunistic behavior here.
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HarrietBrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:13 AM
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9. I think it did hit them hard---but they had a strange way of working it
out---I've seen that in my own family. People sometimes act cold and heartless, because they can't deal with the pain. I think the fact that they were hurt so deeply but couldn't handle it in a healthy way may partly explain why we (as a nation) are suffering through issues like this today. I also think it brings up some interesting points about how the personal experiences of leaders can affect public welfare--for good or for bad. From where I sit (I feel kind of like Frist diagnosing Schiavo via video tape) --it seems that the Bushes are not exactly an emotionally healthy group of people, and that can't help but affect their decision-making. (Factor in greed, opportunism, power mongering, hypocrisy, and unexamined fundamentalism, and you've got a recipe for disaster)
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:32 AM
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10. So wouldn't you think that if these people were anywhere near normal
this experience would show them how important it is for children, EVEN POOR CHILDREN, to have access to medical treatment?? To be able to have preventative care, not just care after the fact?? TO FRIGGING HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE????

Bullshit, these people learn nothing.
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HarrietBrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:47 AM
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11. I agree with you. I didn't think they learned anything. And their
inability to learn or process experience in any way close to healthy has hurt this country. You'd think their experience would have sent them in a much more compassionate direction, but it didn't. Like their followers, they've got blinders on--they think it's right to keep one person alive, while killing others.
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 09:49 AM
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12. yea so hard they didnt' even
go to her funeral ...

babbs and poppy played golf instead.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 11:20 AM
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13. This cold denial of emotion toward death makes me wonder re: Shrub
Edited on Sat Mar-26-05 11:20 AM by hlthe2b
and his strong denial and cold calculus towards those on death row. Perhaps his grief and anger towards his parents played a role in coping with developing narcissistic and sociopathic tendencies towards the suffering of others. I've always thought him to be severely emotionally damaged, to manifest the nost severe of personality disorders--if not overtly sociopathic.


Yet another reason for a panel of respected psychiatrists to complete comprehensive evaluations of those running for the most powerful of offices in this world. (I know--will NEVER happen)
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