I usually don't jump on the ball like this, BUT * is in some serious troub

[Zech Marquis]

Right now the poddle is getting nailed day after day, with more MI5 and MI6 info being released, and so far the fungers in Great Vritain are pointing right at HIM...AND *! The 2 assholes lied, and people died as a result, not to mention all of the military familes who are suffering (from Daddy/Mommy/ SO being away, the Dear John /Dear Jane letters, and then being shot up or killed) There's way, way too much to hide now...

[tonyblurr]

1. Pass the Grey Impeach Poupon Please..

Marquis all your grace has to du is IMPEACHIMP LEASE.

http://votetoimpeach.org

Vote to Impeachimp Now or forever hold your mouse.

Pardon Me Could You Pass the Grey Impeach Poupon Please?

[Zech Marquis]

2. is that all?

then I do like my friend the Sade de--oops, better not say THAT public--I'll inform the staff to prepare the finest Impeachment Grey Poupon and the best chapagne of the Marquis chateu vineyard :evilgrin:

[Skittles]

3. damn I wish I could celebrate

but the price - thousands of dead Iraqis and daily deaths of our soldiers in Iraq. *shakes head* I just feel very sad and terribly angry it had to come to this.

[chaska]

4. my sentiments exactly

I've been feeling this way ever since.... We were right. We're always right. God, people are stupid.


I wonder if we aren't deluding ourselves. Certainly, we're acting too much like it's over, and it's not ... by a long shot. Do any of you notice any significant change outside of DU and the left in general? I live in the southeast. I don't see any change strong enough to safely call that.

[Skittles]

6. I think the excitement stems from the fact

that it has at least BECOME A STORY. Whether it will stick or have real results remains to be seen. But for once it seems to have a bit of staying power. It just sickens me that it took thousands of deaths for the media whores to begin asking questions.

[tjdee]

9. The families are going to get PISSED.

If this story continues to catch on, I can imagine the families of slain soldiers aren't going quietly into that good night.

They're going to be plenty angry.

[JCMach1]

5. They are trying their 'Dumb' act again

If it works again :(

[tjdee]

8. Unfortunately, that only works with Bush.

Tony Blair should have known better, and sadly, he's the one who will go of the two.

I don't know one person (okay, I do, but only at DU) who would have a hard time believing that Bush was too stupid to know what was going on.

I'm willing to be amazed and delighted if he is removed from office though!

[RichM]

7. You know, tomorrow could be a very big day, one way or the other -

We'll see if the media is going to prop the little POS up, or if they're actually going to hold his feet to the fire. There is at least SOME reason to hope it will be the latter. If that's the way it actually goes, life is about to get very interesting: after the first major breach of the dam, the rest may give way surprisingly quickly.

Here's hoping.... :bounce:

[charlie]

10. Surprisingly quickly...

Lie Number Two has shown up at ABC, the Guardian, and a few newspapers today.

"As President Bush works to quiet a controversy over his discredited claim of Iraqi uranium shopping in Africa, another of his prewar assertions is coming under fire: the alleged link between Saddam Hussein's regime and al-Qaida..."

[RichM]

11. You know, as delightful as it will be to see the rats squirm (if that is

indeed how things shall go), there will be a distasteful aspect to it. (Don't worry, I'm willing to suffer lots of this kind of distastefulness!) But how can ABC News, or ANY of the US media organizations, possibly adopt a tone of self-righteous outrage that "the American people were lied to" to gain their acquiescence in going to war?

These news organizations are every bit as guilty as Bush himself. It's going to be very weird seeing them play "morally outraged" - if that's what they're going to be playing.

I have a fantasy about this: On a 6 PM special broadcast, they'll all report on their own complicity in concocting all the lies that paved the way to war. Then they'll all commit hari-kari, on screen, for us, explaining that there was no other way they could possibly save their honor.

[anamandujano]

13. you're right, this is a HUGE PROBLEM

They are the ones that brainwashed the citizenry and helped Bush have his war. That's why I don't get it now. Why are they reporting this story?

The only thing possible is to get rid of them all and bring in a new bunch, and they could do the moral outrage routine, but, what is the underlying factor? Why are they letting this be a story? Will they stop it soon? I'm taking a wait see approach.

[Tigermoose]

15. It's all about ratings baby!

War! <-- Good ratings.

Bush lied! <-- Good ratings.


They don't give a rats ass for the news or the truth.

[RichM]

16. There's more to it than ratings. It also has to do with tax policy, tax

shelters, and deregulation.

[charlie]

18. Maybe Mike Powell

gave away the store too quickly? The new media ownership rules were announced June 2 and were set to go into effect July 2 (I don't know if appeals have been lodged or not).

[tonyblurr]

12. sadistic executions onsidewalks&public squares,cutting tongues& BEHEADING?

"The secretary related how the Fedayeen recently dealt with an unfortunate Iraqi who opposed the regime. "They left somebody in the center of Baghdad not too long ago with his tongue pulled out until he had bled to death cut his tongue out," Rumsfeld said."

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Mar2003/n03272003_200303276.html

Said Rumsfeld: "These death squads report to the Hussein family directly.They dress in civilian clothes and operate from private homes, confiscated from innocent people, and try to blend in with the civilian population. They conduct sadistic executions on sidewalks and public squares, cutting the tongues out of those accused of disloyalty and beheading people with swords. They put on American and British uniforms to try to fool regular Iraqi soldiers into surrendering to them, and then execute them as an example for others who might contemplate defection or capitulation."

Referring to the group's name, Rumsfeld commented, "We will take them at their word, and if their wish is to die for Saddam Hussein, they will be accommodated."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31775

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT? From the MASTER of ARROGANCE himself..Hannibal Rumsfeld? How we let him get away with SMUG LYING remarks like that we'll never know.

[Dear Prudence]

14. CNN Special Report: Monday 6/14

Looks like CNN is on it - for Monday's Special Report = 9 p.m. ET
The ad just ran. Hoo RAH!

Also tonight (Saturday), Tim Russett's hour on CNBC w/guests Robin Wright (LA Times) and Lawrence Kaplan (The New Republic) pounds some good questions.

[berry]

17. CNN Burden of Proof will be on Sunday at 6pm et

As for the Tim Russert Show, Wright was better than usual, but Kaplan :puke: of course supported the whole PNAC policy (without calling it that). He co-authored a book w/ Kristol about the Middle East. (The New Republic can be confusing at first--it takes some liberal stands domestically, BUT on foreign policy it is a total warmongering supporter of PNAC goals and methods. It is poison.)

I'm feeling a little hopeful that the Sunday shows will keep this story alive and further it. We shall soon see....

[Lexingtonian]

19. yep

It's a long slow grinding but we're going to get both of them. They're attacking, lying brazenly, and dodging best as they can, but it's for lack of real options. This is one where simply building a solid time line of public pronouncements catches them all prevaricating.

Blair has few months left at best- the knives are out, if I read Clare Short's statement correctly. Bush still has his 'faith based' following that will stick with him until his social and fiscal policies bleed out in scandals too, which will take another year or so. The good news in that is that W's bankrupting the whole slew of conservative positions and policies and careers invested in his Administration to save them. The auto-da-fe is proceeding nicely, we'll be happy to provide more kindling or gasoline....

:D