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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:07 PM
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"I promise you that if she dies, there's going to be hell to pay
with pro-life, pro-family Republicans."

Randall Terry, at a protest outside Jeb Bush's office today
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:08 PM
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He's Threatening Jeb? LOL! That's Rich!
What a world...
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XboxWarrior Donating Member (369 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:16 PM
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19. it's all so sad..........n/t
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:08 PM
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1. Keep talking Randy ...
Democratic taking of Congress, here we come.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:08 PM
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2. It would sure be great if he gets struck by lightning on Easter Sunday.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:38 PM
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34. At a bush family get together, maybe?
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 03:39 PM by Skip Intro
with special guests rove, rice, rummy and the gang?

wait, what I meant was, what a terrible thing to say.

:evilgrin:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:09 PM
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3. I know. He's been saying that for days!
Actually, I hope that is exactly what they do! What better way to split the Pub Party?

Set these people off into the splinter group that they are!
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:15 PM
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15. Question...why hasn't he been "detained" as a terrorist, then?
the double standard here is unbelievable. He can go on tv and essentially threaten Michael and Judge Greer, since we all know that's who he is talking about, and walk around free, yet most of us libs can't fly without getting felt up.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:31 PM
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31. I don't know. I suspect if he was an Arab, it would be different.
You're right about the double standard. If law enforcement ever really did arrest everyone who makes threats, they would be reduced to zero in their abilities to do their job.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:09 PM
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4. An important primer on Randall Terry from World O'Crap
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:09 PM
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5. he ain't the only one
http://www.halturnershow.com/

These guys ARE inciting violence
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:11 PM
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10. Way to get your winger base's expectations up
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 03:12 PM by BurtWorm
only to let them way down, Bushes! Nice job!

:toast:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:18 PM
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21. Nah they have sown a wind
there will be a bombing, somehwere in middle america, from these loons

that is your next terra attack. Will it be this year? Who knows, but it will happen...

Those are the winds they have sown, and they will reap a shitstorm, problem is, so will we as we will be caught in the middle of it
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:20 PM
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24. You're right!
People forget that the militias, the Koreshes, the Weavers, the McVeighs, etc., were all the result of Bush daddy disappointing the shit out of them. The Bushes have a way of stirring up the dredges of their base.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:09 PM
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6. Go Randy, Go!!!!!
The implosion between the real populist fundies and the political machine that exploits them is underway.
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Afje Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:17 PM
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20. Ungrateful
My sentiments exactly. They helped Bush into office for the second term and now they want their due. If Bush can't deliver, and it does not look as if he will, they will turn on him.
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:02 PM
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40. From your mouth to fundie ears -- we can only wish.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:09 PM
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7. I guess this means Randy will oppose Scalia for Chief Justice
Sign him up!!!

onenote
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:14 PM
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14. Damn Librul Activist Scalia!!!! IMPEACH
(I predict that Scalia will let it be known that he would have voted to grant writs and would have allowed re-insertion, since he is utterly inconsistent and a political whore)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:22 PM
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28. then he should be asked why he didn't dissent
as he often dissents when the court declines to hear a case that he feels strongly about.

Heck, it only takes four votes to hear a case -- ask him if he wanted to hear it and Thomas wanted to hear it and Rehnquist wanted to hear it, I guess that means one of the other repubs on the Court wanted Terri to die.

onenote
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:33 PM
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32. scalia wants to be chief justice.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:10 PM
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8. That has to be a rug on that Randall Terry guys head.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:11 PM
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12. It's the "hell toupee"
someone informed me yesterday
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:15 PM
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17. The Hell toupee, good one.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:16 PM
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18. Pretty interesting, that rug of his
One day when he was speaking, I think it woke up and tried to run off his head, freaked the rug out.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:11 PM
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9. "I HATH THPOKEN!"
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:11 PM
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11. Good, Sir
It is the other side that will pay it. The people of our country are receiving a needed lesson in just what sort of vicious lunatics the Republican Party depends on for its shock troops, and the sharper the lesson, the better it will be all around....

"Kill one, warn one hundred."
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:13 PM
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13. I'm taking him at his word. I don't want anyone hurt , but
I want these people to show their asses, aka their true colors.

Watching these kids get arrested on tv, (for trying to rush the hospice) I have the strange feeling of feeling like the 'reasonable' and 'sane' segment of society, which is a new experience. I almost feel a tad uppity. The fundies are getting creamed on the polls concerning TS, it's 79/21% for Michael's right to make the decision on MSGOP.


It's bizarre to root for Randal Terry. And bizarre for Jeb and Dubya to be seen as PUBLICLY on the side of this freak, which they have always been privately. I think they thought that they could manipulate the fundies from behind the curtain, and Randall Terry with the Toto rug on just pulled that curtain back. I think even Rove doesn't really know what to do in this situation, he may have to have something bombed on blown up if she does pass away.
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Afje Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:22 PM
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26. Yup, show us
Those fundy morons never caught on that they play second fiddle to the real driving force behind this Adm. CORPORATE America. They don't want a theocracy, they want their own oligarchy.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:15 PM
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16. ROTFL - "if she dies..." - um, everyone is going to die, it's 100% certain
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 03:16 PM by NAO
"IF she dies..."?

What an idiot, of course she is going to die! So is the idiot who made that statement, so is everyone who is reading this post. Every person dies. Human life has a 100% mortality rate.

I suppose some people might say, "well, she could be 'raptured' before she dies", but I am primarily addressing the Reality Based Community here.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:18 PM
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22. So what are THEY going to do? Riot?, Burn Tallahassee ala
LA Riot-style?
Perhaps its time for the American Civil War II. This time it'll be a Holy War.
I'M TIRED OF THIS SHIT!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:19 PM
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23. I just hope she doesn't die TODAY
After today, it'll be an anticlimax and Terry will be encouraged to crawl back under his rock in Houston.

However, if she kicks off on Good Friday, the fundies will be out in force. Be prepared for hysteria even beyond the hilarity we've already seen.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:49 PM
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36. Thats a GOOD thing
for them to flip out does two things---it alienates the GOP political figures from their party base/ Shows moderate voters the base of the GOP party that Bush panders to

The worse the hysteria, the better for us
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:21 PM
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25. But that's not terrorism, eh?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:22 PM
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27. But how will that play out?
Democratic taking of Congress, here we come.

Seems to me that all the Pubs have to do next year is say something like, "I wept over the tragic case of Terri Schiavo, even while I abhorred some extremist groups' reaction to it" — and, bingo, votes. I don't think they'll fear alienating voters so far to the right that they haul Jesus around on a trailer and hoist Nazi flags.
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:27 PM
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30. Terri must live forever...I think the SS admin is counting on it
since they are doing the infinite calculations and basing it on people living to be 150 years old!
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:34 PM
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33. Hey Randall! With WHICH family are you "PRO", Schindler's or Schiavo's?
Oh, and regardless of the answer, PLEASE keep your promise to give Jeb!, any other bush* family member, and/or the repuke party as much HELL as you can afford to give them.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:45 PM
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35. Let 'er rip! Show the world just how extreme & vicious you can be.
At this point, I welcome anything that will bring this madness to a head & end all of it once & for all.

Let the devil's work begin.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:52 PM
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37. Guess what, dumbass: she is going to die...we all are someday
Deal with it.
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LondonReign2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:55 PM
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38. Fan-fucking-tastic!
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 03:59 PM by LondonReign2
Oooohhh, let it be true!

How can we encourage the fundie extremists to switch to the Constitution party en masse?
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BloodPrssre Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 03:58 PM
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39. What's up with this guy?
He's been making veiled threats all week. ' Not sure I'd want him as my family spokesman!?
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Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:12 PM
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41. Welcome to DU!
:-)
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:25 PM
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42. When is Chimpy going to level with these radical pro-life religious nuts?
When is he going to admit he just used them to get in office and does not give a rat's ass about their values?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:26 PM
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43. I hope they try something
so that they are exposed for the wingnut, freaks they are!!!!
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 05:42 PM
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44. more about Randall Terry....what a money-grubbing/con-man, hypocrite
http://blogs.salon.com/0002874/2005/03/21.html#a1571


Here's the Christianity Today recap of the story:

In other prolife news, World magazine reports on the questionable fundraising of Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry.

"The purveyors of abortion on demand have stripped Randall Terry of everything he owned," Terry's website says. "The home was sold, and Randall's equity and assetts were given to pro-abortion activists. Bank accounts were seized ... even his frequent flyer miles were taken by court order ... Please give as generously as you can to restore what the enemy took."

The problem, reports World's Lynn Vincent, is that "Mr. Terry is set to close on a new $432,000 home near St. Augustine, Fla., in South Ponte Vedra Beach."

Terry explains to the magazine that he needs a home where "we could entertain people of stature, people of importance."

The World story is no longer available online, but there is a copy of it at FreeRepublic, and it makes interesting reading. The first interesting tidbit is that World rented their mailing list to the Terry Family Trust solicitation, so when the first Mrs. Terry reported that she thought that donors were being misled, World felt compelled to do an investigation.

And here's another interesting part:

Mr. Terry's critics also say many donors who receive the fundraising letters are likely to assume that the proceeds of the Terry Family Trust benefit Mr. Terry's four oldest children, along with Cindy Terry, his wife of 19 years. Instead, the Terry Family Trust is to help Mr. Terry get back into ministry and to benefit his infant son and his second wife, the former Andrea Kollmorgan. She was 22 and served as Mr. Terry's personal assistant during his failed 1998 New York congressional campaign. In August 1999, Mr. Terry left Cindy Terry, and obtained a divorce in November 2000. He married Miss Kollmorgan seven months later.

Mr. Terry told WORLD that he wanted a home where his family will be safe and where "we could entertain people of stature, people of importance. I have a lot of important people that come through my home. And I will have more important people come through my home."

<...>

To secure the purchase, they needed $20,000 by April 30, 2002. Mr. Terry began calling potential donors, offering in exchange for cash gifts quantities of a country music CD he had recorded in Nashville. His plan worked. By April 30, "We had $20,017.... We made the deposit."

But earlier that same month, Mr. Terry had submitted an affidavit to a New York State family court on his financial condition. The court had ordered him to account for his finances in response to a petition Cindy Terry had filed earlier, saying that Mr. Terry was not paying a fair share of child support. In the affidavit, Mr. Terry wrote, "The past two years have been difficult financially for me.... I am three months behind in my rent, in addition to my numerous other debts. Since June, in order to pay necessities, we have been selling many items...."

So, Terry was asking for donations from his fellow Christians so he could buy a ritzy new house for the new wife and the new kid, while not paying his fair share of child support for the old kids. That takes gall.

As you may recall, Terry is the man who said the following about Michael Schiavo:

The day is past for any of us to pretend that he is a decent man. This guy is a monster. He is not a good person. He has been living with another woman for how many years? He has two children by her. Why doesn't he just divorce Terri, give her to Mom and Dad and go on with his life?

Hey, Terry divorced HIS first wife and just got on with his life with his new, young wife, so he knows how easy it is to do. And he also knows how easy it is to forget the commitments one has made to loved ones, as shown not only by his failure to pay his fair share of child support, but also in his article designed to pre-empt the one his son Jamiel had written for Out magazine. In that piece Terry pretty much washed his hands of Jamiel, claiming that Jamiel was a lazy, dishonest, screwed-up, deadbeat who had betrayed Terry, and stating that Jamiel is no longer welcome at Terry's home not because he's gay, but so that he won't ruin the new kids.

So, Terry knows what it's like to pretend to be a good man. Yeah, he's definitely the guy I would pick to be a spokesman for my family.

But here's more from Terry about Mr. Schiavo, from a flyer prepared by the Society for Truth and Justice:

Michael Schiavo has lived with another woman for years, and has 2 children by her. He has declared that he intends to marry her after Terri is dead.

So why doesn't he just get a divorce, and let the parents have their daughter? That is a troubling question. Some assert it is because he wants what is left of the money. Others believe that he put her in this condition, and he wants all evidence of abuse buried. Still others guess it is a grudge match with Terri's father.

Why would Randall Terry say such nasty things about somebody he doesn't know? Some assert that it is because he craves being in the limelight, and hopes the attention will help to get his "career" as a high-profile wingnut back on track. Others believe that he feels guilt about his own conduct towards his first wife and children, and seeks to rid himself of the shame by accusing Schiavo. Still others guess it is so he can solicit funds from the same kind of people who donated to his fund to buy a new house when he couched that as a way to get back at Planned Parenthood.

more at link above
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