You do realize Terri Schiavo is going to die, don't you?

[maxudargo]

I mean, in a few days here it's going to be over. Nothing's going to stop it. The political calculation that made Congress intervene Sunday night has changed. Now they want Terri Schiavo dead and gone in a way you and I never have. They aren't going to stop it.

So what happens then? What are all these wailing drama-queens going to do when Princess Di hits the pylon? What happens in the short term, and what happens long term? What impact does this have on that great mass of Americans who have turned their backs on rationalism and scientific analysis? These are people who's emotions are untempered by reason. How dangerous are they going to be when Terry dies and they reach an emotional climax? What happens at that moment, when her death is announced?

[FlemingsGhost]

1. The illusion of life, as we understand it, will continue.

Schiavo will be free. End of story.

[maxudargo]

6. I really don't think that's going to be the end of the story

It may be only the beginning. The story here is not Terri Shiavo. She's just a convenient metaphor. This is about the joy of tragedy. It's about martyrdom. It's about perceived persecution. It's about self-righteous suffering. It's about how we oppress them with book-learning and professional training. It's about how they are better than us because they are honestly hysterical. I fear Terri Schiavo's death is going to be a launching pad.

[FlemingsGhost]

10. Let 'em feel that way, it can't be healthy.

"Coulda, Woulda and Shouldas" ... ah yes, the breeding ground for fear.

All I know, is these folks already find any reason to nail themselves up on a cross. If it ain't Terri Schaivo, its something else.

Terri Schaivo, launching pad? Nah ... 2000 years of pondering crucifixion already has them in orbit.

[ElectroPrincess]

12. I believe that finally, she will be with God in Heaven ...

She's been "high brain center" (all cognition) dead for nearly 15 years now. Finally (if you believe) she will be united with God in Heaven.

I will be relieved that her body has given up it's soul and is now in bliss.

Now IMHO the above sentiment is "The Christian Way." Terri and all the other beautiful souls are NOT suffering ... it is only those of us left on earth who mourn that we can no longer be with the departed.

If the Fundy demented flail about after her death, then why do they bother to believe in God and An Afterlife in Heaven? After all, I honestly believe that once her physical body dies, she will finally receive her delayed reward. The God I believe in is compassionate, merciful and will open the gates of Heaven for her (and the vast majority of other) beautiful souls.

I hope Terri seeks out Sun Hudson upon her arrival in Heaven. I pray that she expresses "our love" for his recently departed soul which SHOULD be deemed just as precious as any other in His Kingdom.

If the Fundies misbehave upon her death, it will only drive home their true agenda (rid the court system of Non-Fundy judges). The more they "talk in tongues" and *proudly* pray in public, the quicker the SANE Conservatives will be able to see the true extent of their hypocrisy.

As it should be ... pride and selfishness will eventually be balanced by expressions of mercy and compassion.

[FlemingsGhost]

13. Great post. Thanks for sharing. (n/t)

Flem.

[izzie]

2. I hope it is not this Sunday.

I am sure her picture will be in some church crying real tears not long after she dies even if it is not Sunday.

[Piperay]

18. Easter Sunday

the fundies would crap their pants if it happened that day, would claim it as some sort of sign from God.x(

[illflem]

24. Some fundys are already calling Judge Greer Pontus Pilot

[BR_Parkway]

26. "Why are you so sure that 24 judges aren't doing God's Will?" seems to be

the question that leaves them blinking and sputtering. "how dare you act like you know better for her than what God has planned" comes in second.

Yeah, if she died on Sunday, I think the Southern Baptists would have their first Saint.

[ElectroPrincess]

21. To level with you izzie, I'm not worried about Terri dying on Sunday BUT...

I am terrified, not that Terry will die on Easter Sunday, but perhaps The Holy Father may expire. I pray that if he is meant to die in the near future, it not be on this blessed day. :(

Now please know that I'm not superstitious ... if The Holy Father gives up his spirit this Easter Sunday, it will not be (to me or other liberal Catholics) a negative sign to ALL of us Christians and Catholics who STILL hold onto REASON vice superstition.

However, our latest crop of truly "foaming at the mouth" ... that is, openly Mad Fundamentalists will have - what's equivalent to a figurative Nuclear Meltdown if we lose The Pope on Easter Sunday.

I must admit that The Vatican Leadership have seemingly become so politically corrupt, they would NOT announce such an occurrence. Therefore, they would announce his death to be on the following Monday. However, I don't feel comforted by that in the least.

Please be aware that if there is even "a hint" of our (us Catholics) blessed Holy Father dying on Easter Sunday ... let's just say the demented religious nut cases will scamper out of the woodwork and make the SANE Folk's life seemingly "Hell on Earth." I don't even want to think about the rantings of those crazies should such an event occur. :scared:

[izzie]

25. My God. I never thought about the Pope.

We people of reason will just have to leave for Mars, if that happens.What about if both go on Sunday?

[ElectroPrincess]

27. Or perhaps France - The RW's "Mars"?

I have a buddy who's a citizen of France. I may just have to learn how to wear a beret, speak French and act arrogant. ROTFL Well, it's a viable option as most FOX viewing Americans consider France's culture "from Mars."

Gee, if I didn't have a family to love and care for, I'd seriously consider joining her in FRANCE. ;)

[HeeBGBz]

29. It would be worse if she dies today - Good Friday

Which represents the day Jesus died with Sunday being the resurrection.

[mdelaguna2000]

31. choke...sputter...laughing

OMG that is hilarious... the picture crying tears - you nailed it.

[screembloodymurder]

34. What if she dies today?

and at the same time Christ died on the cross. Coincidence????

[sandnsea]

3. Thinking that myself

Especially with Pat Buchanan saying we should send in federal officers, and Scarborough saying we must take back our judiciary.

Prompted me to post this, and hope that cooler heads prevail.

First Battle of Manassas, July 1861

Because those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

From the diary of Mary Henry, daughter of the first Director of the Smithsonian.

Tuesday 16th. We went up into the high tower to see the troops pass over into Virginia. 4 regiments crossed the long bridge while we were up there. Every now & then they rent the air with their enthusiastic shouts but it was sad very sad to see them go. I could not feel patriotic. I thought of the sad patient face we saw last night, of the many brothers who were pressing thus eagerly foward to shed the blood of brothers…

Father also saw the editor of the principal paper in Nashville who said he was very sorry he was not in Nashville when Mr B. made the speach declarative of divisive sentiments. He would have suppressed as it was probably made when Mr. B. was unduely excited...

22. Still at Dr. Gurleys This has been a weary weary day. I am glad night has come at last so that I can forget its sad realities in sleep. Asleep would I were so now, would I might awake from what seems like a hideous dream. All last night ambulances were passing the house & we expected every moment one would stop at our door. As we were seated at the breakfast table this morning a violent pull at the door bell made us all start to our feet. Two soldiers entered bloodstained & dusty. Poor little Fanny threw herself on the floor at my feet covering her ears fearing to hear the terrible news they might bring. They were messengers of good tiding for her however Elderkin was safe but a sad sad tale they had to tell. The Northern Army has was ingloriously defeated driven back before the rebel forces. 16,000 were said to have been engaged on one side & 30,000 on the other. The loss of life on both sides was very great but they could not of course tell us exactly how many were killed & wounded. Three times our narator a strong man burst into tears & cried like a child…

We have heard of the death of several of our friends but I am happy to learn Col Hunter & his young aid are safe. The former is quite severely wounded but is in not danger at present. It is terrible to think of the hearts bleeding tonight, of the thousands weeping for sons husbands & brothers falling unknown & unnoticed except to swell the number the exponent of the Country's loss…

A member of the N.Y. 71st. Regiment has just been here. He fought well & bravely but says he hopes he may never again see a battle field. He shuddered & put his hand over his eyes when he told us the horror of that terrible Sunday could neither be forgotten or described. He said the cowardice & inefficiency of the volunteer officers was almost to great to be believed. One of their captains was about to leave when his men told him if he should they would shoot him down. The streets are still crowded with soldiers, every few step almost we encounter crowds collected around some of the Bull's Run adventurers listening with mouth & eyes wide open…

Much is said of the ferocity of the Southerners at the battle but the feeling of animosity seems to be equally deep on both sides. One of our friends who had been upon the field told us he saw two wounded men a federal & a secessionist lying side by side attempt to bayonet each other too weak for such an effort they sank back exhausted & dying..

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=620

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. the full frrontal atatck on the judiciary continues

them activist Liberal judges and all.

This is what this is about

Thuogh I fear they have whipped them to a frenzy and this may be a fort sumpter moment, they have sowed a storm, and they will get a shitstorm

[Radio-Active]

5. yeah..

and it'll happen today.

[ProgressiveConn]

7. While I give the Rove and company a lot of credit.

I'm not so sure that this wasn't a result of the religious right demanding action if the GOP wanted their 2000/2004 style allegiance in 2006 and 2008. If this is the case I wonder what percentage of them will be satisfied since in reality they didn't really win anything out of doing this. I think Rove and Bush thought by going federal with it they could get a judge to side with them. It should be very interesting how everything plays out.

[maxudargo]

15. You know...

I think it must have seemed like a pretty simple political calculation a week ago. You intervene in this matter. It "excites" the pro-life base in your constituency and gives them another reason to vote for you. You figure most people other than the pro-lifers don't really care one way or the other. And the only people who are directly and negatively affected by your intervention are two voters in Florida, one of whom is brain-dead and doesn't vote anyway. It's a "no-brainer." A political slam-dunk. I'm sure Rove still thinks it will work for them in the mid-terms because most of us will have moved on to other things, but the pro-life base will remember how the Republicans fought the good fight, but I wonder if he's right.

He probably is. He hasn't been wrong yet. Not like anybody will ever hold these people accountable or anything.

[ProgressiveConn]

20. I think he may have cost Tom Delay his job.

I think a good number of people who were unquestioned, legal fund donating, Delay supporters are going to be a little less enthusiastic about supporting him in the future. I'd love to see a poll of his district done on this issue. =)

I disagree about him thinking it would blow over too. I think it was intended to be as MASSIVE and LOUD as possible. I think Rove was using it as a way to keep protests out of the media. He didn't want it to blow over he wanted to sure up the religious right's votes as GOP votes and not a split with the Constitution party/apathy and to coverup the war protests...

[mdelaguna2000]

30. exactly

They will get credit for their "principled" stance from the religious freaks - who will feel all the more persecuted because they lost - and they'll have their martyr.

You are soooo right ... the rest of us will have moved on to a million other skirmishes. They count on everyone to forget, including the right wingers who think this is preposterous at the moment - but the zealots won't forget, no, no. Racking up the the points.

[sendero]

40. The only problem I have..

.... with this analysis is that those folks would have voted for Bush** no matter what anyway.

I really think Rove has blown it this time. It think he thought that a majority of Americans would get behind this quixotic quest.

But, years of Republican rule are starting to harden Americans. Americans can easily ask themselves the question "why should the country spend $80K a year to keep alive a person who has been brain dead for 15 years, when there are literally millions without any health care at all?"

The Republicans talk out of both sides of their mouth a little too often. Bush** signed the bill in TX that lets a hospital deny treatment against the families wishes, and yet there is supposed to be some overriding reason why this person should be kept alive artificially forever. Millions have felt the harsh reality of the American way of providing health care, and they resent that this person should hog the spotlight. There are literally tens or hundreds of thousands of folks in a similar situations, who cares about them?

This dog doesn't hunt today, and it isn't going to hunt tomorrow. Just like SS, the Republicans simply don't have the credibility on this issue to gain anyone's confidence in these arenas. And their credibility in their crown jewel issue, National Security, is tarnishing as we speak.

[flordehinojos]

8. there used to be something about dying that was reverent and private, not

the circus that this young woman's dying has become...i feel so sad for what all these circus clowns have put her dying through even when she does not know because she cannot know because she has no brain function, and that is why what they have put her through is like raping a very powerless person... the process of dying is so private, so painful, so sacrosanct and here these clowns have trampled on all of that.

[incapsulated]

9. Never mind that....

I didn't know you posted here! I saw your strips a while ago and emailed you to tell you they were fucking brilliant. Which they are!

:)

[maxudargo]

11. Well, thanks!

Yeah, I post here and I've written a few articles they've published here. Did I respond to your email?

[incapsulated]

16. Nah, but that's ok

I just wanted to encourage you to do more! I think your work is great. You should be published, seriously.

[maxudargo]

19. I try to respond to all emails to [e-mail]

But I haven't responded to any of the comments by people who sign up for the mailing list, although I read them all. Maybe you're talking about having left a comment when you signed up?

I'm trying to finish the next one. I had some computer problems and lost a lot of files. But a new one should be up soon.

Here. Here's a sneak preview, for what it's worth:

[incapsulated]

22. I *think* that's the email I used

Doesn't matter, the sneak preview is betta! I'm looking foward to it!

(I have those flashbacks all the time...)

[Cooley Hurd]

37. Jeebus... this is funny!

From your MTV strip:



That's priceless!:D:thumbsup:

[maxudargo]

45. Thanks

A prerequisite to enjoying that one is having seen the video. Most people who have seen the video remember having many of the same thoughts while watching it, that's why it's funny I think.

[Kindigger]

14. The bitch of it is....

how out of hand "the facts" have gotten in such a short time. Reading the posts on that petition yesterday was scary....

[OneBlueSky]

17. she will become a martyr to the cause . . .

whether that attracts people or drives them away remains to be seen . . .

[Kindigger]

23. Unrelated ABC Overnight News

Randall Terry spokesman:
Terri's brother bent over the bed, and Terri mouthed the word "help".
The family became physically ill and left the room. :eyes:

[ElectroPrincess]

32. Oh brother!?! These people have NO shame.

[jmowreader]

39. You didn't just say that.

Is there a way we can get Randall Terry retroactively charged under the PATRIOT Act? It's got to be good for something.

Randall Terry, OTOH, is good for nothing.

I have not been stunned, physically stunned, by a post in the way yours stunned me in quite some time. Yes, people are stupid enough to believe what you just said.

[LostInAnomie]

28. All in all I think it will amount to a whole lot of nothing.

She'll die, it will be news for two days and then be forgotten. Something else will take our attention, maybe the NCAA tourney, maybe American Idol, you never know. By the time Nov. '06 rolls around it will be "Terri who?". That is just the nature of our culture. Our memory doesn't last any longer than it takes for the next crisis to pop up.

All that being said I think her husband should be filing some MASSIVE law suits for defamation of character, slander, and libel. The way her family, their spokes people, and the press have went after him is disgraceful.

[Disturbed]

33. The person known as Terry Schiavo died ..

many years ago.

[moobu2]

38. Yes, Terri died 15 years ago

All that remains are living organs tissues and reflexes.

When Nancy Cruzan died in 1990 after her parents fought the state for the right to remove her feeding tube, her parents had this put on her tombstone...

Nancy Beth Cruzan
Born 1958
Died January 25 1983
At Peace December 26 1990


1983 was the date she had the car accident and slipped into a vegetative state and 1990 was the date her body expired.

[shrub chipper]

36. While the country as a whole,

will probably forget, I''m sure Rove and Co are counting on their deluded base to have VERY long memories.

[baldguy]

35. And thank God.

After 15 years, her suffering will be ended.

[animuscitizen]

41. Hopefully the Operation Rescue folks are taking their meds

These self-aggrandizing people tend to get their panties in a bunch when they are confronted with reality. They are dangerous, as evidenced by their history of violence against abortion clinics and doctors.

I hope they take some heavy sedatives and SSRI's as prescribed, to help prevent similar violence against judges, courthouses, etc.

[Kazak]

42. Turn off your TV...

and deny them any access to your precious brain cells.

:thumbsup:

(edit: stupid spelling error)

[0007]

43. Thanks - this one made my day

[maxudargo]

44. The FOX News one was very popular - got listed on BuzzFlash

Glad you liked it. Most of them aren't as overtly political, but you might like the "Army of None" thing. They ran that here at DU last year, but without my Photoshopped graphic of Bush with Hartman.