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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:20 PM
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Carla Iyer's affadavit is the most absurd thing I have seen in a long time
Here it is, unbelievable that she hasn't been brought up on Perjury charges.

BEFORE ME the undersigned authority personally appeared CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N., who being first duly sworn, deposes and says:

1. My name is Carla Sauer Iyer. I am over the age of eighteen and make this statement of my own personal knowledge.

2. I am a registered nurse in the State of Florida, having been licensed continuously in Florida from 1997 to the present. Prior to that I was a Licensed Practical Nurse for about four years.

3. I was employed at Palm Garden of Largo Convalescent Center in Largo, Florida from April of 1995 to July 1996, while Terri Schiavo was a patient there.

4. It was clear to me at Palm Gardens that all decisions regarding Terri Schiavo were made by Michael Schiavo, with no allowance made for any discussion, debate or normal professional judgment. My initial training there consisted solely of the instruction “Do what Michael Schiavo tells you or you will be terminated.” This struck me as extremely odd.

5. I was very disturbed by the decision making protocol, as no allowance whatsoever was made for professional responsibility. The atmosphere throughout the facility was dominated by Mr. Schiavo’s intimidation. Everyone there, with the exception of several people who seemed to be close to Michael, was intimidated by him. Michael Schiavo always had an overbearing attitude, yelling numerous times such things as “This is my order and you’re going to follow it.” He is very large and uses menacing body language, such as standing too close to you, getting right in your face and practically shouting.

6. To the best of my recollection, rehabilitation had been ordered for Terri, but I never saw any being done or had any reason at all to believe that there was ever any rehab of Terri done at Palm Gardens while I was there. I became concerned because nothing was being done for Terri at all, no antibiotics, no tests, no range of motion therapy, no stimulation, no nothing. Michael said again and again that Terri should NOT get any rehab, that there should be no range of motion whatsoever, or anything else. I and a CNA named Roxy would give Terri range of motion anyway. One time I put a wash cloth in Terri’s hand to keep her fingers from curling together, and Michael saw it and made me take it out, saying that was therapy.

7. Terri’s medical condition was systematically distorted and misrepresented. When I worked with her, she was alert and oriented. Terri spoke on a regular basis while in my presence, saying such things as “mommy,” and “help me.” “Help me” was, in fact, one of her most frequent utterances. I heard her say it hundreds of times. Terri would try to say the word “pain” when she was in discomfort, but it came out more like “pay.” She didn’t say the “n” sound very well. During her menses she would indicate her discomfort by saying “pay” and moving her arms toward her lower abdominal area. Other ways that she would indicate that she was in pain included pursing her lips, grimacing, thrashing in bed, curling her toes or moving her legs around. She would let you know when she had a bowel movement by flipping up the covers and pulling on her diaper.

8. When I came into her room and said “Hi, Terri”, she would always recognize my voice and her name, and would turn her head all the way toward me, saying “Haaaiiiii” sort of, as she did. I recognized this as a “hi”, which is very close to what it sounded like, the whole sound being only a second or two long. When I told her humorous stories about my life or something I read in the paper, Terri would chuckle, sometimes more a giggle or laugh. She would move her whole body, upper and lower. Her legs would sometimes be off the bed, and need to be repositioned. I made numerous entries into the nursing notes in her chart, stating verbatim what she said and her various behaviors, but by my next on-duty shift, the notes would be deleted from her chart. Every time I made a positive entry about any responsiveness of Terri’s, someone would remove it after my shift ended. Michael always demanded to see her chart as soon as he arrived, and would take it in her room with him. I documented Terri’s rehab potential well, writing whole pages about Terri’s responsiveness, but they would always be deleted by the next time I saw her chart. The reason I wrote so much was that everybody else seemed to be afraid to make positive entries for fear of their jobs, but I felt very strongly that a nurses job was to accurately record everything we see and hear that bears on a patients condition and their family. I upheld the Nurses Practice Act, and if it cost me my job, I was willing to accept that.

9. Throughout my time at Palm Gardens, Michael Schiavo was focused on Terri’s death. Michael would say “When is she going to die?,” “Has she died yet?” and “When is that bitch gonna die?” These statements were common knowledge at Palm Gardens, as he would make them casually in passing, without regard even for who he was talking to, as long as it was a staff member. Other statements which I recall him making include “Can’t you do anything to accelerate her death - won’t she ever die?” When she wouldn’t die, Michael would be furious. Michael was also adamant that the family should not be given information. He made numerous statements such as “Make sure the parents aren’t contacted.” I recorded Michael’s statements word for word in Terri’s chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn’t to be contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they should know about their daughter.

10. Any time Terri would be sick, like with a UTI or fluid buildup in her lungs, colds, pneumonia, Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die. He would call me, as I was the nurse supervisor on the floor, and ask for every little detail about her temperature, blood pressure, etc., and would call back frequently asking if she was dead yet. He would blurt out “I’m going to be rich!,” and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat, and going to Europe, among other things.

11. When Michael visited Terri, he always came alone and always had the door closed and locked while he was with Terri. He would typically be there about twenty minutes or so. When he left Terri would would be trembling, crying hysterically, and would be very pale and have cold sweats. It looked to me like Terri was having a hypoglycemic reaction, so I’d check her blood sugar. The glucometer reading would be so low it was below the range where it would register an actual number reading. I would put dextrose in Terri’s mouth to counteract it. This happened about five times on my shift as I recall. Normally Terri’s blood sugar levels were very stable due to the uniformity of her diet through tube feeding. It is my belief that Michael injected Terri with Regular insulin, which is very fast acting.

12. The longer I was employed at Palm Gardens the more concerned I became about patient care, both relating to Terri Schiavo, for the reasons I’ve said, and other patients, too. There was an LPN named Carolyn Adams, known as “Andy” Adams who was a particular concern. An unusual number of patients seemed to die on her shift, but she was completely unconcerned, making statements such as “They are old - let them die.” I couldn’t believe her attitude or the fact that it didn’t seem to attract any attention. She made many comments about Terri being a waste of money, that she should die. She said it was costing Michael a lot of money to keep her alive, and that he complained about it constantly (I heard him complain about it all the time, too.) Both Michael and Adams said that she would be worth more to him if she were dead. I ultimately called the police relative to this situation, and was terminated the next day. Other reasons were cited, but I was convinced it was because of my “rocking the boat.”

13. Ms. Adams was one of the people who did not seem to be intimidated by Michael. In fact, they seemed to be very close, and Adams would do whatever Michael told her. Michael sometimes called Adams at night and spoke at length. I was not able to hear the content of these phone calls, but I knew it was him talking to her because she would tell me afterward and relay orders from him.

14. While at Palm Gardens, I became fearful for my personal safety. This was due to Michael’s constant intimidation, including his menacing body language, vocal tone and mannerisms.

15. I have contacted the Schindler family because I just couldn’t stand by and let Terri die without the truth being known.

FURTHER AFFIANT SAYETH NAUGHT.





CARLA SAUER IYER, R.N.

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:22 PM
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1. Great
How old is this ?

This doesn't have the ring of truth to it, I'll say that.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:26 PM
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3. It is absolutely inane
yet Sean hannity has had her on repeatedly, and repeats her story and is incredulous when people do not believe her.

She is on the news, on TV everywhere, on Talk radio---saying this story and RWers now bring up the 'Insulin attack'.
Hannity particularly
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:34 PM
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8. Was that a typo? Didn't you mean insane?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:15 PM
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10. I said inane because it is absurd
as a registered nurse she would know that no one in their right mind would believe this.
This is not insanity---she knows what she is doing and she deliberatly perjured herself.
Heck, I am very confused about how I stand on this case, but I can tell complete BS when I see it.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:25 PM
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2. No perjury charges?
Of course not. She's been Washed In The Blood Of The Lamb. But little does she know that she's one of the lambs.

There are 3 or 4 such affadavits "detailing" how evil Michael Schiavo is and how Poor Terri can talk, walk, sing, tap-dance, and has been begging people to free her from Satan, her husband, and the Libbrul juggernaut. And all of them have been definitively refuted by counselors ad litem -- attorneys appointed by the court to make sure nothing funny was going on.

It's become a three-ring circus: Church, State, and Media.

--p!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:27 PM
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4. one court appointed guardian sat next to Mrs. Iyer on TV last night
and after she finished telling her unbelievable story, he calmly went through his observations.
This was no doubt in my mind that he was being truthful and she was lying for some reason.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:30 PM
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5. Charts are legal documents
that cannot be altered--which is why charting notes are always written in pen. That is why White-Out is not allowed in charting notes. That is why if you make a mistake, you put a SINGLE LINE through your mistake (even if it takes up 2 pages....you just single line through every line you wrote), and initial it and re-write what you originally wanted to write.

If all of these notes, day after day, were missing, she should have not only filed a complaint with the head of the facility, but with the state as well.

Charts are legal documents. They cannot be altered, changed, or removed under penalty of law.

If this nurse knew of such egregious and blatant violations of the law, she should have notified the state board of health IMMEDIATELY for them to take action against the facility.

Also, this nurse seems to have little to no understanding of the bodily processes of someone who has no cerebral cortex left--they DO have involuntary movements. They DO make involuntary gutteral sounds. They DO blink their eyes and wave their limbs. But they're INVOLUNTARY.

Sometimes, when my mom's dog barks, it sounds like it's saying "HELLO". When it howls, I SWEAR it's saying "I love you" but it sounds like "arrr woooooo uuuuuu". But The dog isn't saying "hello" OR "I love you". I'm attaching common sounds that are familiar to me with sounds the dog makes. They sound similar, but they're not the same words. THey're not words at all.

I'd be interested to know how many other cases of PVS patients this "nurse" has worked with. My guess is none. If she had, she would know that all that she experienced with Terri Schiavo is quite normal for people who have no functioning motor cortex. Terri wasn't saying "hi". SHe was making gutteral sounds.

And this nurse says that Terri was saying "pay" but she really meant "pain"---how does this nurse know that? Maybe terri WAS Saying "pay". Maybe she wasn't in pain at all. Who is this nurse to ascribe alternative meanings to this woman's 'words'?

Utter tripe. I pitty any patient who has her for a caregiver.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:33 PM
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6. the funniest part is where she says Terri can talk...
Not even Jeb's handpicked fundie doctor claims that. The media of course lets her on the air anyway without fact checking.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:33 PM
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7. She was obvioulsy kidnapped by aliens at some point and they implanted
some sort of chip in her brain and she cannot be held responsible for any of this stuff that she is saying. It was all dictated to her by the Captain of the ship that held her prisoner.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:39 PM
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9. Parallel Universe In Action...
This story is no longer about facts or truth to the kool-aid drinkers...it's another orgy of trashing, bashing and coming together. The wingnuts haven't had such a cause celebe since the election and the fodder this has given to hate radio will be ratings bonanzas across the country and the dial.

This story detached from reality the day Operation Rescue got involved in this circus and the message was so designed to play black or white, good vs. evil and find victims and targets along the way.

Michael Schiavo is a major target and according to these slime merchants, he's everything evil this story needs and this "affadavit" (pleh) is just fodder for their hate fests and pockets. This babe is probably getting appearance fees already and is gonna ride her 15 minutes and then be tossed into the Paula Jones trash heap. If she's smart, she's lying and doesn't care...taking the money and running. If she's as stupid and gullible as I suspect, she's trying to impress her new found friends...not aware she'll be dumped like a cheap prom date when this thing is over.

Too bad there's not a Democratic legal activist organization that would take her to task for that "affadavit"...take her to court and make her prove that Schiavo did those things. I assume the Schiavos won't go near this right now, but I'd love to see Michael throw a bunch of slander suits once this mess is over.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:27 PM
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11. Michael tried to kill her for 15 years...
and couldn't even get her to have a bedsore. What an incompetent murderer.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:32 PM
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12. He was also smart enough to tell everyone within earshot
about his dubious plans.

I don't believe a word this woman has to say. This story is simply not believable.
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thedevilinthedetails Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:40 PM
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13. So she called the Schindler's in 1995 & 1996, right?
I recorded Michael’s statements word for word in Terri’s chart, but these entries were also deleted after the end of my shift. Standing orders were that the family wasn’t to be contacted, in fact, there was a large sign in the front of her chart that said under no circumstances was her family to be called, call Michael immediately, but I would call them, anyway, because I thought they should know about their daughter.

Yet this afadavit wasn't admitted to the record until 2003. As Judge Greer said, IF she had been calling and telling the Schindler's all about this in 95/96 then why didn't the Schindler's make this part of their appeal in 2000 when they first went in front of Greer?

This is damning evidence and is contrary to every single GAL or other staff people who have been witnesses to this story. If it was true, the Schindler's would have done everything in their power to get it admitted in 2000 since Carla had told them over and over again (supposedly) in 95/96.

And that is exactly what Judge Greer said about these accusations in 2003. He didn't buy it and thinks it's yet another delaying tactic on the part of the Schindler's.

Anyone smell the SwiftVets for Terri out there? I bet you if you did a little research on Carla you would find her dad was a SwiftVet!!! or some connection. These slime all hang together
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