DailyKos: NO Military Service for Gannon/Guckert

[understandinglife]

Thursday, March 24, 2005

DailyKos: NO Military Service for Gannon/Guckert
by Joe in DC - 3/24/2005 12:39:00 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/24/111751/735

"A lot of comments remind us not to forget about the Jeff/James Gannon/Guckert scandal. Believe me, we haven't...even though the MSM seems to have.

DailyKos has another new development involving Jeff/James. Looks like our boy may have made up the whole military record thing too:

Fake name. Fake reporter. Fake news agency. And now this ...

Fake Marine.

First, we went to the Military Personnel Records of the National Personnel Records Center at St. Louis, Missouri, the supposed repository of all military records. No record showed, but the official letter hemmed and hawed and scraped its military-booted feet so much, kinda sorta explaining that they're often ... well ... ummm ... screwed up ... and that we should check directly with the United States Marine Corps at Quantico. You know, just to ... ummm ... make sure." (more at link):

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/03/dailykos-no-military-service-for.html

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[tridim]

1. This is assuming Guckert isn't another alias.

Maybe he is one of Poppy's former call boys, born and raised specifically to serve gay Republicans.

[jdj]

78. it also depends on how you define "service" to the military.

It appears he did alot of military servicing, actually.

Tour of duty, heh, heh.

[Occulus]

81. Oh dear Christ.

Is that both cheeks your tongue is in?

My, my, my. You're talented!

:D

[Stephanie]

2. Don't Ask Don't Tell?

[libertypirate]

54. Meaning....

Only closet cases aloud in the military. This would be the people who could see through the facade of the closet cases. Which would be bad for blackmail...

[fromBrooklyn]

3. After reading the Sunday NYTimes

"Interview" with Guckert I was more convinced than ever that this guy is one *Class* act. Some of it seemed to insinuate more, most of it implied he is a dolt, a "tool" (snorf, har har) of the Right, in all the ugly, unpleasant, and potentially unsanitary ways...

[Old and In the Way]

17. Well, there may be reason's why they paint him as "dolt".

It wouldn't surprise me if he was actually a NOC who now needs to be marginalized by this government. As this post points out, this guy seems to have no traceable past....I find it incredibly odd that, in this day and age and the internet exposure/scrutiny he's come under, no one has been able to trace this guy from the time he graduated from college (maybe) through his showing up as a WH reporter. And I really do wonder about his internet prostitution business....just a little moonlighting to make ends meet? Or a honeypot to entrap and compromise influential people? If he had a clearly documented past, I'd lean towards the former.

So, if there is more to GG then we've discovered, I would expect the Times and outlets like CNN to help the cause by making GG out to be an incompetent buffoon. That way, they can make any investigation of GG out to be a waste of time by a bunch of conspiracy kooks. If the Times/CNN says "move on, nothing here", I'm more inclined to keep stickin' around.

[understandinglife]

18. "Or a honeypot to entrap and compromise influential people?"

You have several gems in your post. One of them I've quoted in the subject line, because it encompasses my working hypothesis about g/g/g/whomever.

And, in response to:

So, if there is more to GG then we've discovered, I would expect the Times and outlets like CNN to help the cause by making GG out to be an incompetent buffoon. That way, they can make any investigation of GG out to be a waste of time by a bunch of conspiracy kooks.

Precisely. And, one would expect all kinds of efforts to disrupt anyone trying to do the detailed, exhaustive research required. Something many of us have witnessed.

And, in response to:

If the Times/CNN says "move on, nothing here", I'm more inclined to keep stickin' around.

Yes, and many of us are doing just that.

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[fromBrooklyn]

27. yeah, I hear you - but -

I mean after reading it, _he_ at least is not the master-mind behind this, that much is eminently clear.

Which means, I suppose, that his 'handlers' (snorf snorf) are very clever.

Or, he could have simply been dating someone in the White House *karlrove*cough* who could get him access as a gift, and he could then...

you know_ come to think of it_ I don't buy it either.

Shouldn't he have army buddies coming out of the wood-work? At least one or two...There's so much there, you can just smell it, anyone can see it...

[understandinglife]

29. "We" do not know who "He" IS, and we certainly do not know....

...what he is capable of doing or whom he may be associated.

All we have are 'appearences' of g/g/g/whomever; that much is indeed eminently clear.

Thank you for your comments.

Peace.

[Catherine Vincent]

32. Whatever else comes out regarding Gannon,

I am hoping everyone doesn't pile on him.

[BamaBecky]

53. I suspect his true friends....are on to the entire "gig"...n/t

[MADem]

85. The Manchurian Prostitute, perhaps? n/t

[troubleinwinter]

60. Interesting question.

Is this guy as dumb as he seems? He sure seems pretty dumb, that's for sure, if you read his "writings".

But how can a guy that dumb end up living in a pricey area of Capitol Hill, with a newish vehicle, and no apparent means of support? With nice enough clothing to attend WH briefings along side legitimate "journalists".

His back tax issue would seem to indicate that he may have had some sort of legitimate employment once upon a time? But we have no clue how many years back that may have been.

[enid602]

82. NYT interview

In that interview, he did not seem to say anything too cryptic, but he did say that he had a 72 year old mother. Was he perhaps throwing us a hint? I gooogled the hell out of anything to do with Noreen Gosch, but was not able to find her age. Does anyone out there know how old Noreen is? She looks much younger in the one photo which is always shown on the net, but that could be a very old photo.

[Demit]

4. I kinda OD'd on Gannon, but I still hafta wonder if he isn't a totally

made-up person. In the way that the government can give somebody a whole new identity, I mean. There have been no old friends or classmates who've surfaced, to talk about growing up with him, far as I know. That's just so strange.

[understandinglife]

5. Yeap. NO ONE for which we have been able to verify. (nt)

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[Catherine Vincent]

7. ...

You're in the right path....

[intheflow]

9. DUers did find photos of him from a high school year book.

He was class president or VP his junior year, under the names James Guckert. He wrote sports for the school newspaper. I think the reason no one has come forward is that he lived in a fairly small town in a conservative part of Pennsylvania--and how many Americans even know about him? Considering most of the country gets their news exclusively from MSM which under-reported or didn't report at all on Gannon/Guckert, it could simply be that no one who knew him well enough to comment on him has even heard of this scandal. My opinion only, FWIW.

[Demit]

16. I know about the yearbook and the name, but that's all

there was. Maybe I read too many police procedurals, LOL, but that's not definitive. Yes, there was a James Guckert from that high school. Do we know it's him (Gannon)? Are those photos clear, from high school? I know there were some from college. And that's another place nobody owns up to knowing him at. West Chester is a teacher's college, not exactly a party school per se, but a chummy place (went to some parties there in the 70s). It's just all so vague, not definitive.

Yeah, maybe a reporter from a known outlet would have more resources to investigate, and maybe people would be more ready to trust/talk to an MSM reporter. But still. Everybody's from someplace, and everybody has somebody who knew him when. A small town would just make that easier, IMO. It's just weird.

[troubleinwinter]

20. "kinda OD'd on Gannon"

I think there is a very deep story here. The more time goes on, the more obvious it is

Thank goodness those who researched and investigated Watergate didn't walk away in the middle of it, feeling that they'd OD'd on it.

Gannon/Guckert has gone to some effort to build his FALSE history. Here is his entry on Military.com

[Catherine Vincent]

6. Check out this hilarious comment on DailyKos:

Is he actually American?

I used to know a Jean-François Gucquerte in Paris...
by Jerome a Paris on Thu Mar 24th, 2005 at 08:21:10 PST

------

ROTFL!

[monobrau]

8. Who didn't see that coming?

I've been waiting for some evidence that he had actually served, but I figured he was an "honorary Swift boat vetran for truth".

[fooj]

15. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:toast:

[ohio_liberal]

10. Someone should ask him for copies of his records

preferably one of the 101st Fighting Keyboarder™ blogs. :D

[fooj]

11. Recommend! Another crack in the dam...

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Catherine Vincent]

12. ---->

:hi:

[fooj]

13. ...

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[bear425]

14. Thanks UL. By the way, the mission not accomplished site

looks great! I love the Papyrus font. I put the link in my sigline, too.

[understandinglife]

19. Thanks 'Bear'!! (nt)

Peace.

[peacetalksforall]

21. The people from GOPUSA should know a tiny bit. n/t

[troubleinwinter]

22. He was supposedly in college...

NO college buddy has stepped forward.

Supposedly in a fraternity... NO fraternity brothers have stepped up to corroborate his story.

He claimed military... NO military buddies.

He claimed to have taught in public schools. NO fellow teachers, NO students have stepped up to say what a great teacher he was.

Claimed to have been a union truck driver. NO workmates, union buddies, employer.

He claimed to have been a website developer. No clients (course, maybe they were ALL porn/prostitution sites?).

NO neighbors anywhere to say what a nice fellow.

NO shopkeepers.

Not one friend.

NO fellow parishioners to step up and say what a wonderful Christian he is.

[crispini]

23. This is nuts.

:scared: It seems this is something much bigger than it seems to be?

[Catherine Vincent]

30. Yes, it is.

But the media are acting like chickenshits.

[BamaBecky]

31. You got that right!...

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

33. Howdy there!

:hi: :-)

[BamaBecky]

52. How are you doing Cat Girl!

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[BamaBecky]

50. yes...n/t

[ngGale]

77. IMO, it's a lot bigger than it seems to be...

n/t

[bin.dare]

56. remember the article in the Philidelphia Gay News about him ...

... being on a baseball team, and people at Woody's bar and a biker bar remembering him? It seemed a little fishy to me at the time but to the best of my recollection it is one of the few pieces where people from his past actually identify him.

[BamaBecky]

61. Do you have a link? I missed that article.........n/t

[bin.dare]

84. ...

... i could only access the cached version:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:BqwOuYfoVxEJ:www.epgn.com/news/gannon.htm+marco+baker+gannon&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8

[merh]

63. That was from his "recent" past. Not his college, military or

high school past. I don't doubt his recreational hobbies. To cultivate friends and customers and working buddies, he probably tried to make connections in all sorts of places.

:hi: Hello All! :hi:

[troubleinwinter]

68. As I recall...

The picture wasn't very recent. 1987, I think. I remember it because I thought it would be shortly after "serving in the military"... he supposedly graduated college in 1980.

Hopefully, someone can dig up the link to the PA paper again... a gay publication as I remember.

[merh]

71. You are right according to the article

it was the mid '80s.

Gannon/Guckert played for local softball team

By Marco C. Baker
PGN Editorial Assistant
© 2005 Philadelphia Gay News

An Washington, D.C. writer who sparked recent controversy involving the White House and the journalists who cover it, once played for a local gay softball team.

Like others in the White House press corps, Jeff Gannon had daily access to media briefings. But his questioning of President Bush and press secretary Scott McClellan was criticized as soft by veteran reporters, who also complained that Gannon's queries were really meant to squelch Bush's critics.

But in the mid-1980s, Gannon was known as James Dale Guckert, a Wilmington, Del., resident and member of the gay City of Brotherly Love Softball League. He played for Woody's Bar and Restaurant's team.

Gannon, a correspondent for Web sites GOPUSA and Talon News, sparked controversy by the questions he asked, which were seen as biased. Internet "bloggers" began investigating him. With popular blogs such as DailyKos.com joined by conventional news media, Gannon's past was exposed, revealing that he once worked as an gay escort.

(snip)

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:BqwOuYfoVxEJ:www.epgn.com/news/gannon.htm+&hl=en

But of course, these leads to the question "which gannon is the gannon in the photograph?"

I don't recall a photograph being provided with the story, just a reference to the potrait. :shrug:

[bin.dare]

86. one of the things that struck me odd about the article ...

... is the line

"Wood turned to the portrait to easily point out Gannon, last row, third from right."

It seems someone is trying very hard to be specific --- "last row, third from right", hmmmm

Also, i have a strong feeling that all the names in the article are aliases.

Finally, it is curious that while i can access older PGN articles this one is accessible only in the cache. hmmmm

[merh]

87. Yeah, I find that odd too!

And like I wrote above, they specifically referenced him in the photo, but I do not recall them publishing the photo.

Gosh knows who is in the photo. Just another bald guy? :shrug:

[bin.dare]

88. it says "portrait" not photograph ...

... "Hanging in his popular South 13th Street establishment is a large portrait of the old team" hence the specific location because the portrait is ambiguous. Now it gets even curiouser!

[stanwyck]

24. My son will be relieved

he's a Marine (back in Iraq for his second tour) who supported Kerry. The Gannon story really frosted him. He'll be so happy to find out this paid-to-lie poser wasn't a Marine.
Again, the real story is the emerging industry in this country of people who are making their living...lying. The Swiftboat Liars Club. (do any of those guys have a "real" job...or is jetting around to spew vitriol on Texas fatcat money their only means of support? ) Plus now all the Terri Shaivo liars coming out from under their rocks to rant their conspiracy theories.
Is this how Dubya is creating jobs? By providing fatcat money for liars? Hey, it worked for Linda Tripp and Paula Jones. Those ladies haven't done any honest work in years.

[Cocoa]

25. NotMilitaryStuds.com n/t

[understandinglife]

26. LOL!! Be sure to trademark it before g/g/g/whomever does (nt)

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[Andy_Stephenson]

55. Oh cocoa...thanks for the laugh!!!

I really needed it today!

[Chelsea Patriot]

28. Jimmy-Jeff is as as much a Marine as He's a Top.

[understandinglife]

34. I think it only appropriate that we give a big "wave" to g/g/g/???

......since we know he's 'with us.' We've never properly welcomed him to our investigative research efforts and that just seems couterproductive, especially, since he's been so willing to hide in plain sight.

And, please do accept our apologies for allowing all the Schiavo stuff to maybe cause folk to forget just how important you are to little matters like the outing Ms Plame, your knowledge about an illegal invasion of another nation hours before it began, and other trivial stuff like that.

Howdie Jeff or Jim or Johnny (your favorite, I'm sure)

:hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi::hi:

Peace.

And, let us know what you will be doing on May 2 2005:
www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[fooj]

38. My preference...Guckwhatever!

if only he knew how much we'd like to HELP him...



Peace!

[BamaBecky]

51. Isn't that the truth.....if I ever heard it.....n/t

:hi:

[BamaBecky]

35. While I know this will sound absolutely loony to most of you,

I do not want to see us beat up on Gannon. I too think there is a huge story looming here and I am almost convinced that Gannon, at the heart of this story, will prove to be a victim. Beat up on mainstream media, beat up on the hypocrisy of the value laden phony Republicans, but lets wait till we hear the rest of the story on Gannon/Guckert. At least I'm prepared to wait it out. I do hope I'm right about him, because he may the the key that unlocks the door on the cabal.

[Catherine Vincent]

36. I agree, Becky.

My post above hope there is no piling on Jeffy. I know for a fact he's the victim.

[Redstone]

47. And the facts that make you so sure he's a "victim" are....?

We're waiting with bated breath for the revelation.

Redstone

[BamaBecky]

48. well so are "we".......can't tip my hand......read and study.....read and

study.....or you could pm me........I understand your frustration...
:hi:

[bin.dare]

57. "I know for a fact he's the victim."

why make the statement in a public forum if you have no intention of substantiating it?

[tjdee]

37. He's a jerk, too.

It's hard to see him as a victim when he's such a grandstanding asshole.

[ohio_liberal]

39. I've gotta agree

He's still trying to get attention. He deserves whatever he gets.

[understandinglife]

41. Unless, as some speculate, he's just trying to stay alive. And, you ...

.....know how selective those theocratic neoconsters and their warlord Bu$h are regarding 'life.'

Someday we'll know the truth. What "we" do know now is that many are searching for that truth.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[stanwyck]

40. Who wants to bet he'll write a book?

Maybe his good buddy Sean Hannity will write the foreword? I'd really like to know how this guy got coveted press credentials following heightened security after 9-11. Maureen Dowd was told her clearance would take months. So was Sarah McClendon and Helen Thomas. But Jeff swept in on a blog that had been operational for six days. Under an alias. And he was so carefully non-vetted that his entire bio appears to be faked.
There are legitimate questions here. The porno-stud for hire stuff is just the sensational sizzle that will get the story into the MSM. If Jeff decides to play.
Paula Jones and Linda Tripp paylayed their sad little stories into years of rightwing payola. Jeff probably wants his cut of the wingnut largesse. The Swiftboat Liars Club has been flying high, literally (jetting around the country fueled by Texas oil money). Jeff is nothing if not an opportunist.
Here's his chance.

[BamaBecky]

49. I want to buy the book, not because of the sexuality aspects, but for his

LIFE STORY..........my radar tells me there is a huge story here....and when and if it all comes to light....when and if it does....you will eat your words...I promise.....

:hi:

[Ilsa]

58. Don't buy it. Try checking it out of the Library.

I'd hate to see this prig get any royalties from you to use for his RNC activities.

[RedEarth]

42. Poor Jeff.....you're not even a "Hot Military Stud".....

[redqueen]

43. Oh for goodness' sake...

how stupid is he to have lied about something so easy to check?

:eyes:

[ohio_liberal]

44. You know the answer to that

The rest of his bullshit was pretty easy to uncover.

[Catherine Vincent]

45. This isn't really confirmed is it?

[ohio_liberal]

46. Not yet

Someone needs to go to Quantico and dig through the records.

[imaginary girl]

65. Not stupid if you want the lie exposed! n/t

[understandinglife]

66. Indeed. Or, if your motive at the time (late '90s) was to do as ....

....speculated in comment # 17 & 18. And, that enable you to gather enough dirt to find yourself welcome at the West Wing by 2002/3, and able to access just about any damn bit of national security information you might want (e.g. Plame, Iraq invasion), and if you are now holding all kinds of folk hostage with the enormity of the blackmail information you're leveraging against them.

And, if you're also having a little fun, in a N-dimensional matrix game, with a bunch of folk on the internets.

By the way, it should be rather obvious to everyone that whomever g/g/g/??? is, he is not stupid; in fact, just the opposite. To approach the him with any mindset other than one of awareness of his proven skills (just how many of you walk the West Wing daily, for starters) is to relinquish any chance of discovering the truth.

Just guessing, of course.

(oh, and, I always like to say :hi: to Jeff, or is it Jim, or is it Johnny or is it.....)

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[merh]

93. You can call him jeff or you can call him jim or you can call

him johnny or your can call him gannon or you can call him guckert or you can call him gosch or you can call him jd or you can call him g/g/g or you can call him jimmy/jeff or you can call him bulldog, but you cannot call him stupid!

And I don't think you can call him safe either, so keeping in the public eye helps him stay safe.

:hi: Hi g/g/g - j/j/j :hi:

[Stirk]

92. AND he taunted potential investigators. Remember that?

Remember his little email to DU promising to 'try harder to achieve #1 Conservative Idiot status'? That was before anyone investigated him at all- it was just after he asked his last Press Corps question.

[understandinglife]

95. Yes, all part of that "hiding in plain sight" strategy of g/g/g/??? (nt)

Peace.


www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[Hissyspit]

59. I had posited that I think he is a pathological liar. That's what...

qualified him for his "job/jobs" for whomever hired him.

[BamaBecky]

62. kick

[TacticalPeek]

64. Kick. n/t

[Name removed]

67. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ohio_liberal]

69. That's a Captain

medals I don't know. Uniform is not right for a marine.

[Catherine Vincent]

70. Yow! Nice bod!

What was your question again?

[SF Bay Area Dem]

72. It is BS --- Navy uniform that is supposed to be Marine Corps

This looks to be a Navy Uniform with a eagle globe and anchor insignia on the cunt cover... the large airborne wings above the ribbons I have never seen before. It might be bullshit because it looks cool... Just another poser trying to get laid by passing himself off as a military guy is all this is...

[ohio_liberal]

73. Yeah I saw that

The insignia on the lapel is Marine Captain but the uniform is all wrong.

[DulceDecorum]

74. So, the uniform and the medals are questionable?

Well then, maybe it is time to have another look at the website serving the 18 people who make up
The Regiment of the Black and Tans
A Los Angeles Uniform Club.
http://blackandtans.org/
As you can see, Malecorps.com is very closely affiliated with them.

Select the UNIFORM STORE.
This should bring you to www.soldiercity.com.
Scroll down the column on the left.
Click on DOGTAGS.

Now, scroll down to the very bottom of the column on the right
until you see WHAT'S NEW AT SOLDIER CITY.
Click on MEDALS AND RIBBONS.

Now this is where you-all come in.
Check the fake medals against the buff serviceman
and report back to base.
First one back with concrete news is next in line to purchase a
SEMPER FIDO DESERT BULLDOG BOBBLEHEAD

It rather appears that a lot of military-look props can be purchased at soldiercity.
Starting with dogtags.

[Name removed]

76. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[farmbo]

75. I started a thread on his gay-porn photos being a disgrace to the uniform

...and two "concerned DU'ers" jumped my bones to state that Gannon was, indeed, an honorably-discharged veteran of the US Marine Corps.

As a result, I self-deleted the thread.

What does this tell you about the man...and his covert supporters on this board?

:crazy:

And OH...JUST BY THE WAY...HIS USE OF MILITARY UNIFORMS ON HIS GAY PORN WEBSITE WAS A CRIMINAL DISGRACE TO THE UNIFORMS OF THE US MILITARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ANY COMEBACKS FROM THE 'WE SUPPORT THE TROOPS' GANG?!

[understandinglife]

79. They are a disgrace, not just to the uniform, but to those of us who...

...have worn them with honor.

No argument from me on any of what you've posted. Check #76, if you have any further questions on my tolerance for repulsive exploitation of 'the uniform.'

And, by the way, we don't know who "Gannon" is and we have zero evidence he was in the military, let alone honorably discharged.

And, I assure you, anyone who places any form of military uniform on their person and then displays disrespect is going to get nothing but fierce denunciation from me -- anyone.

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[DulceDecorum]

80. Ummm.... I would just like to say

that Jeff Gannon is getting clean away with his activities and this is partly because some people keep shooting down research that is being done on him.
So, now that we are not to speak about how or where Jeff Gannon may have obtained his fake uniform and fake dogtags and fake military gear,
and most especially not to say one word about his career as a rent boy,
let us shift the conversation to military films such as
A FEW GOOD MEN.

Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I think I'm entitled.
Col. Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth.
Col. Jessep: You can't handle the truth.

Galloway: Tell your friend not to get cute down there, the Marines at Gitmo are fanatical.
Lt. Weinberg: Fanatical about what?
Galloway: About being Marines.

More good quotes at:
http://www.garnersclassics.com/qfewgood.htm

The fact that researchers at DKos have now demonstrated the GannonGuckert was NOT a Marine
(to the best of the our knowledge)
means that the Marines can now lift their heads up again.
The US Marine Corps can DISOWN James D Guckert as a poser and impostor.
So why in tarnation,
would someone allegedly DEFENDING the Marines,
now go and jump in front of a bullet aimed at James D Guckert, impostor?

The man in that uniform on that website is HIMSELF an impostor
and this was in the process of being confirmed IN PUBLIC.
But now it will never be.
And the naked fake militarystuds on MaleCorps thrive -- because you are actively interfering with the collection of evidence needed to force them to discontinue the commercial exploitation of the uniform.
Congratulations on a job well done.
Semper Fi.

[Catherine Vincent]

83. It surely wasn't me.

But do you expect, Bush writes on the US flag.

[DemonFighterLives]

89. Even with this info.

We don't know for sure if he served in the military, because we don't know who he is for sure.
Since there has not been much g stuff on here, I don't know if it was ever mentioned. Last week on Big Ed Schulz show, Conyers said that he is still working on the story. Especially why someone with such poor vetting and a mail order journalism degree could get into the press room.
Hopefully there is nothing more sinister planned than simple Rovian propaganda. Gannon overreached and asked too stupid of questions.
Glad to see the old wrinkle crew here. :toast:

[understandinglife]

90. Correct. It is all the things that we should know, by now, if g/g/g/???...

....was like any typical person -- friends, family, school chums, business associates, military buddies, ... -- that appear not to exist, that make g/g/g/???? a very interesting research topic.

Peace.

[KaliTracy]

94. oooh, I hate to say this, but what does g/g/g/ look like upside down?

666

oh my :scared:



*ducking*


LOL

[Catherine Vincent]

91. Conyers still working behind the scenes on the story?

Good on him! He's goanna need positive vibes because we all know Rove/Bush will try and silence his efforts. It's worked so far.

Glad to see you too!:hi: