About the Draft !!!

[shesemsmom]

I just got a email from a friend who has an inside, she says that the Draft Boards will be filled by March 30. Has anyone heard anything. Also she tells me that there are being protests planned at University's for the same day. What are you hearing ?

[Goldmund]

1. She's wrong

it's March 31st.

[shesemsmom]

2. What is it you know???

[Kingshakabobo]

3. Loose lips sink ships. Shhhhh! n/t

[Goldmund]

5. Here's newsmax, of all places

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/6/24/104815.shtml

[shesemsmom]

14. Thanks

[Nikepallas]

4. So does that mean the cards are going to start going out April 1?

And how do you mean by being protests? This feels like a nightmare I can't wake up from.

[shesemsmom]

6. I don't know

I came here for answers. What is the word... are they really gonna do it and are we going into Korea

[Goldmund]

7. No.

On that day they're supposed to report to the President that they will be ready to implement a draft within 75 days of his order -- whenever that order may come.

[Nikepallas]

10. And how soon will Bush do that? before or after another "Terrorist ATTACK"

I can't image him not ordering it soon.

[shesemsmom]

11. Cripes!!! It sounds like they are ready to

DO IT !!!

[pstans]

8. Here is a DU thread about the protests

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x15415

[shesemsmom]

9. No she tells me that the boars will be filled. I assume lottery to start

shortly. I signed up for the borad and was told I was on *STAND BY STATUS* some time ago and have heard nothing else

[Nikepallas]

13. Stand By Status?!??!!!!

Now this board is it a job that pays or is it all volunteer? I ask because I can't image telling pay employees to be on stand by if they are not going to work soon.

[shesemsmom]

19. Nope strictly volunteer

[rockedthevoteinMA]

42. shesemsmom, I was handed a flyer at the protest in boston the

other day stating the word on the draft was to be handed down on March 31, and put into action on June 15. It was from this website. http://www.nodraftnoway.org/index.shtml
I don't know much about them...

[MADem]

18. They are going to make people fill out SKILL CARDS

Where you tell them what you are good at or what you work at, or what languages you speak. Penalties for perjury, of course, probably many, many thousands of dollars in fines and up to ten years in the clinker--they'll probably prosecute a few liars just to get the point across, and to ensure future compliance. You'll be told to keep your address up to speed too--OR ELSE.

Then your card gets digitized, coded, sorted and categorized for quick retrieval. Then....all depends....

[salin]

45. How do they select who will fill out these cards,

and how will they distribute them?

[SoCalDem]

49. Language: Pig Latin...Skills: Origami...Hobbies: Poodle-raising

People will be "creative" :evilgrin:

[forgethell]

12. There will be no draft!!!

This is a Republican plot to keep us from concentrating on kicking them out of office in 2006. They're going to hang all the draft talk around the neck of that poor, deluded fool, Charlie Rangel, and, by implication, the Democratic Party.

But it will never come to a vote. They're just feeding us rope to hang ourselves, and by God, we're co-operating.

There will be no draft.

x(

[Nikepallas]

15. I would think this would backfire on the Republicans.

[forgethell]

22. Not when

they can get Democrats to propose draft laws, the vote against them, making themselves look like fools. Not when all the public talk about the draft comes from Democrats. Not..., but you get the drift.

I never believed that Karl Rove was as diabolically clever as many on this board have given him credit for, but at last I am convinced. he has gotten the Democrats howling for a draft, so that all can share in the burdens of war, and howling against it at the same time. How the hell did he do that?

It is truly pathetic, IMO, that the best plan that we can come up with for regaining congress and the white house is for the Republicans to commit suicide strictly for our benefit. Never happen.

[shesemsmom]

24. We are still 2 years from taking things back

The repuks can really muck things up and kill alot of kids i that time.

[forgethell]

28. But there

will be no draft in all that time.

[shesemsmom]

16. I hope you are right

But how long can this mess go one this way with out *FRESH MEAT*

[forgethell]

25. Oh, I don't know.

There are several other options. But do you really think the Repukes, who seem to have much better political instincts than we do, based on electoral performance, will destroy themselves over this? I don't. Unlike a lot of people here, I actually have some respect for their intelligence and abilities. This is separate from their stand on issues.

Of course, if you buy that Kool Aid about there never being an honest election in the USA again, well, I guess that wouldn't be a convincing argument. Still, you will see. I have already bet one member that if there is a draft before the end of the year, I would publicly apologize in the Lounge. I will also do it in GD, and I will extend the term of the bet to G*B's entire term.

There will be no draft!!

[sparky_in_ma]

21. Agreed

I do not see a draft implemented at this time. It would make no sense.

[shesemsmom]

26. would only make sense if we are going into Korea or Syria

[sparky_in_ma]

30. I doubt we'll put additional

ground forces in Korea for the purpose of a ground war. It's not practical from a military stand point. Syria could be possible, but I bet they would wait until 2008, around Sept., to start it. It would be strictly air and armor until after the election.

I pray clearer heads will prevail and keep us out of conflict.

[bilgewaterbill]

33. Korea is isolated

and Syria will melt from inside. No troops will be needed.

[sparky_in_ma]

35. Good points

I just don't see Korea as a place to start a ground war. Sooner or later China will spank them and we'll all be friends. With trade concessions.:)

[Bok_Tukalo]

31. Who will finance that?

The United States will swallow a retreat in the Middle East before they would stand for a draft.

[forgethell]

27. And would be

stupidity on the Republican's part. I don't think they are stupid.

[shesemsmom]

29. They may not be stupid

but are certainly full of them selves

[sparky_in_ma]

32. : )

Well put.:thumbsup: They are politically astute when it come to using military force. One of the reasons they get away with it is that the MSM doesn't keep showing people the horror that goes on every day. Is it a coincidence that there is another topic, even here in GD, that is diverting all the attention? They pick the fight and we end up fighting on their turf.

[forgethell]

36. They're also

pretty politically astute at winning elections. This is just an example.

[sparky_in_ma]

37. We need to get on message

and stay there. Refuse to get drawn into rigged fights. In 2006 the economy should be the issue we just keep pounding them on it. (off thread rant. I'm just sick of watching the spin)

[forgethell]

40. Well, we should

certainly pick an issue that we think we can win with. I've always been an economic Democrat, myself. So I think that is a good one.

Have you checked gas prices today? GeeeeeeZ!

[sparky_in_ma]

41. They'll only go higher

It's funny, in a sarcastic sense, that a war for oil drives up the price. Yet more is being pumped then ever before. I really think this should be our main focus. I don't see the need to bend on any of our core values to win elections, we just need to keep the dialog on our talking point, the economy.

[forgethell]

43. If the economy tanks,

you're probably right. If it doesn't, we'll bend or lose. Maybe both.

[forgethell]

34. Well, I won't

argue with your there.

[salin]

47. and in the Spring of 2002

folks thought that there was no way Bush would really push for a war in Iraq... we were still in Afghanistan, with international good will - the rest of the world would be against it, and polls of americans said support for the US taking action alone was about 28%.

And folks thought, from a fiscal standpoint, pushing for more and deeper tax cuts in a time of war would never be pursued - because it was fiscal lunacy...

Point is - this administrationn does not act in sane ways.

There will be no draft, IF, there is no intent to pursue more wars. Which would be the sane thing since we have no manpower for more endeavors. But the neocons are upping the rhetoric against THREE countries. It is insane. But they seem not to be bound by previous conventional wisdom of what is sane and what is insane. This is the problem of ruling by ideology.

So you may be right - but do not count on "no draft" because it would be "insane" for bushco to pursue it.

[welshTerrier2]

17. i've renamed the "Draft" to ...

No Child's Behind Left

[MADem]

20. Force Urgent Callup, not draft

...and they'll start out only FUC-ing the few, but if they continue to spread democracy at the point of a gun, everyone could get FUC-ed royally!

[shesemsmom]

23. I see that really sound more like it

some more back door BS

[Scooter24]

38. Your friend is correct

The date March 31st is the date that the Selective Service must issue its readiness report to Bush. One of the major changes in policy is the reduction in days from draft-bill passage to recruit induction. Before, the law stated that the Selective Service had 180 days from the date the draft bill is signed to get a recruit on a bus to boot camp. As of March 31, 2005, it will be reduced to 75 days.

[Scooter24]

39. Your friend is correct

The date March 31st is the date that the Selective Service must issue its readiness report to Bush. One of the major changes in policy is the reduction in days from draft-bill passage to recruit induction. Before, the law stated that the Selective Service had 180 days from the date the draft bill is signed to get a recruit on a bus to boot camp. As of March 31, 2005, it will be reduced to 75 days.

[HeeBGBz]

44. CNN reported the government is set to bring some x thousand troops home

Within the year, depending on the level of violence in the area.

So does that mean they will withdraw some troops to appease families of soldiers and then create another terrorist attack to justify the draft call up?

[Chicago1]

46. DRAFT=GOP POLITICAL SUICIDE AND THEY KNOW IT!!!!

The republiCANTS know if they start a draft, that the republicans will start the impeachment trials themsevles. THIS IS ABSOLUTE POLITICAL SUICIDE. The idiots who voted for Bushie WILL NEVER SEND THEIR KIDS TO IRAQ.

This poster shows how RIDICULOUS AND OUT OF TOUCH they are with REALITY.




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[Toots]

48. I agree with your assessment other than your belittlement of the poster

If a Draft does come about it will be because of the Democrats. The Draft would fill the streets with protesters against this administration and against any war we become involved with. Some Democrats are now actively trying to reinstate the draft because they know it would be the undoing of all the Republican's plans for world conquest. America will not send their sons off to die for oil...All volunteer is one thing..hell they want to go and most are Republicans anyway. You start taking average sons and daughters and the war would end in a hurry...