Re: "Michael could have just divorced Terri"

[opiate69]

It struck me today, that while there are a bunch of wing-nuts who are saying Michael should have just divorced Terri so her parents could take care of her, if he had, these same moralist assholes would be deriding him as an insensitive prick who broke his vows when she needed him the most.

[RPM]

1. yup - the hypocrites make it fun, no?

:eyes:

[opiate69]

2. There's just no winning with the religiously insane..

[UTUSN]

3. Wingnuts Said It? So Did Ralph NADIR on Crossfire Today n/t

[opiate69]

5. Where I come from, "Wing-nut" is a generic slur, not

an ideological one..

[UTUSN]

8. Huh? Care to 'splain? Wingnut Is Ideological. n/t

[opiate69]

9. OK.. here goes..

Obviously, over the last few years, the term "wing-nut" has become short-hand for "right-wing-nut". However, all of my friends and I have used "wing-nut" as a slur since long before any of us knew anything about politics. In my original post, I referred to wing-nuts. You countered with a referrence to somebody who is decidedly not a right-wing-nut.

[UTUSN]

15. Speak Clearly. You Say I Labelled NADIR a Wingnut? Yes.

Anybody who don't help ME is an ASSHOLE. I don't know how old you are, but Senor NADIR was a plus back when he was battling the corporations in the (50s/60s). He's been a PRICK afterwards.

[opiate69]

17. Hmm.. ok.. I was under the impression he was farther left.

What-the-fuck-ever though.. my original point still stands.. these assholes would have considered him the absolute scum of the earth had he divorced her.

[UTUSN]

18. I Think He's for Ralph (only). n/t

[Kingshakabobo]

21. First of all, it's "Nader".

Second of all, ..............never mind.

[Kingshakabobo]

22. First time I heard the term "wing-nut"

was during the "Matthew Shepard" funeral. The Mayor of Laramie used the term to describe the nut-cases scheduled to appear. I thought it was an instant classic.

[Eloriel]

25. And I say it too

And I'm not wingnut either.

[opiate69]

26. Well then...

Honestly, what would you have thought of him if he had simply walked away 15 yers ago?

[deadparrot]

4. Say it with me now:

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE SCHINDLERS WANT.

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT MICHAEL SCHIAVO WANTS.

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT WANTS.

IT IS NOT ABOUT WHAT THE RELIGIOUS WANT.

IT IS ABOUT WHAT TERRI SCHIAVO WOULD HAVE WANTED.

[Dookus]

7. Sounds so simple...

I can't understand that people don't get it. The parents have NO rights in this case, and that's as it should be.

[opiate69]

10. You're preaching to the choir, Parrot.

I just thought it was an intersting angle which I haven't really heard amidst the din.

[deadparrot]

13. Oh, I know...

Just trying to put my frustrations out there for all (including lurking freepers) to see. :)

[finecraft]

6. Oh, I don't know....They never said that about Newt Gingrich

When he told his wife he was divorcing her as she was coming out of anesthesia after having cancer surgery. (Hypocrisy sarcasm off)

[opiate69]

16. Hehe.. to whit, I refer you to post # 3.

[grannylib]

11. And her supposedly 'devout Catholic' parents are the ones pushing it

the hardest. I truly do not understand how it's acceptable to urge someone else to commit a mortal sin, if you are really a devout Catholic. Seems rather immoral and contradictory to me.

[democracyindanger]

12. They clearly don't understand what a marriage means

Ironic, ain't it?

[jojo54]

14. Sounds just like them....

make the rules up as they play the game. Freeping assholes!

[allalone]

19. but what about the sanctity of marriage?? nt

[K-W]

20. The evidence says he loved her a great deal and wanted

what was best for her. Regardless of how you feel about his decision, the evidence says he came to it earnestly.

These lying pigs can't just disagree with you, they have to turn you into some hobgoblin too. If you ask me its all projection. Its the born-agains who are running from thier pasts.

[opiate69]

23. No doubt.. the more I think about it,

the more I think I respect him.. here's a man who could have easily just walked away (something which I suspect many more of us would have done than would like to admit), and yet he seems to have valued his wife's wishes when it clearly wasn't in his best interests.

[Quixote1818]

24. I think everyone in this case truly meant well. Both sides!

If Michael really has stuck by Terri for all the right reasons which I don't know if he did or not but if he did I think that is really touching and gives me hope that perhaps their are a few old fashioned people who do not forget about their commitments to their loved ones and their wishes. If it's the other way around that would be really sad though.

Anything in the courts transcripts seem to suggest Michael was a very good caregiver for several years after this happened. He went to the Hospital regularly to visit her. Over time he realized it was a lost cause and he came to terms with reality. I think thats where he and the parents then stooped getting along. They no longer had the same goals for Terri.

It seems to me that Michael is more guided by reason than any hard core Religious dogma so he was able to see things in a more rational way than the parents who made their decisions based on supernatural belief. I think in the end everyone was genuine and it was simply a difference of opinion and as Emerson once said: The greatest sin of people is to not forgive difference of opinion.