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Sandpiper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 06:57 PM
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Big Thank You's to the "Pro-Life" Movement
Your fanaticism and extra constitutional activities in the matter of Terri Schiavo have done more to damage the public perception of you than anyone on the left could have ever hoped for.

Thank you so much for removing all doubt that you are anything but a band of extremist nuts!

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 06:59 PM
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1. I fully expect one of them to gun down a judge when Schiavo dies
It will be the final nail in the coffin to religious fanatacism. Heck, I hope they riot.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:14 PM
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7. Me too, nsmam.
One of them will kill the judge or Michael and then the country can see that party for what it is.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:01 PM
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2. KICK
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:01 PM
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3. Amen! ...as Michael Shivo gets death threats
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:07 PM
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4. And so does Greer.
In another thread, I mentioned Greer gets kicked out of his church for upholding the law. The BTK Killer gets told his church will stand by him throughout his trial.

Makes you wonder what Jesus would think about what's been done in his name recently.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:08 PM
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5. Remember pro lifers the mother ship leaves May 1st.
You will love Zimdar,bring warm clothes and snacks.You will be right at home in the poisonous atmosphere and hate filled climate of fear.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 07:10 PM
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6. Maybe those who claim to be pro-life but at the same time pro,choice
ie, claiming that they can tolerate women who make the choice to have an abortion, will understand how they have been cajoled into joining themself at the hip with religious, wild eyed fanatics.

"Pro-life" has become an intolerable cult and I suspect anyone who calls themself a Democrat and simultanously calls themself pro-life as being duplicitous.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:45 PM
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8. Careful......
This thing is leading somewhere dangerous. I fear you may have it backwards.

We are in a very very dangerous place right now. History provides a cautionary tale. American Progressives were an enabling "compassionate" side of American eugenics in the early 20th century. They provided a partnership and cover for those with more sinister intentions. Whether they were looking the other way, like some of Hitler's Christians or just unaware, I have no idea.
We should definitely know better now!!

"Elitists, utopians and so-called “progressives” fused their smoldering race fears and class bias with their desire to make a better world. They reinvented Galton’s eugenics into a repressive and racist ideology. The intent: populate the earth with vastly more of their own socioeconomic and biological kind — and less or none of everyone else."

http://www.jewishsf.com/content/2-0-/module/displaystory/story_id/973/edition_id/8/format/html/displaystory.html

From> Lessons from History: Euthanasia in Nazi Germany
by PJ King

An opinion poll conducted in 1920 revealed that 73% of the parents and guardians of severely disabled children surveyed would approve of allowing physicians to end the lives of disabled children such as their own. Newspapers, journal articles, and movies joined in shaping the opinion of the German public. The Ministry of Justice described the proposal as one that would make it "possible for physicians to end the tortures of incurable patients, upon request, in the interests of true humanity" (reported in the N.Y. Times, 10/8/33, p. 1, col. 2). And the savings would redound to the German people if money was no longer thrown away on the disabled, the incurable, and "those on the threshold of old age."

A 1936 novel written by Helmut Unger, M.D., further assisted the German people in accepting the unthinkable. Dr. Unger told the story of a physician whose wife was disabled by multiple sclerosis. She asks him to help her die, and he complies. At his trial he pleads with the jurors to understand his honorable motive: "Would you, if you were a cripple, want to vegetate forever?" The jury acquit him in the novel. The book was subsequently made into a movie which, according to research by the SS Security Service, was "favorably received and discussed," even though some Germans were concerned about possible abuses.

The first known case of the application of this now-acceptable proposal concerned "Baby Knauer." The child's father requested of Adolph Hitler himself that his son be allowed death because he was blind, retarded, and missing an arm and a leg. Surely, in his condition, he would be better off dead. Hitler turned the case over to his personal physician, Karl Brandt, and in 1938 the request was granted.

Over the next few months, a committee set out to establish practical means by which such "mercy deaths" could be granted to other children who had no prospect for meaningful life. The hospital at Eglfing-Haar, under the direction of Hermann Pfannmuller, M.D., slowly starved many of the disabled children in its care until they died of "natural causes." Other institutions followed suit, some depriving its small patients of heat rather than food. Medical personnel who were uncomfortable with what they were asked to do were told this was not killing: they were simply withholding treatment and "letting nature take its course."

Brandt, testifying at his trial in Nuremburg after the war, insisted:

"The underlying motive was the desire to help individuals who could not help themselves and were thus prolonging their lives in torment. ... To quote Hippocrates today is to proclaim that invalids and persons in great pain should never be given poison. But any modern doctor who makes so rhetorical a declaration without qualification is either a liar or a hypocrite. ... I never intended anything more than or believed I was doing anything but abbreviating the tortured existence of such unhappy creatures."

http://suewidemark.netfirms.com/nazieuth.htm

Currently, several states are gutting medical services and turning people they have labelled "taxpayers" against people who need medical care. They are using propaganda to do this very effectively. The "welfare queen" campaign is in full force.

Gutting services and stepping up propaganda is the exact MO that Hitler used before begininng his euthanasia program.

The "better off dead" concept is one that they hope the left will take up as a mantra and believe when people start dying after they have lost services.

When you read this also remember the movie that just won an oscar. I don't know how much Clint Eastwood's conflict with ADA was discussed here, but it is relevant to this picture!!!

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