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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:45 PM
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If the Supreme Court intervenes in Florida again, we're toast.
The balance of powers will have been completely upset, and the shift will favor The Executive Branch and it's Congressional cohorts. The Shiavo case has nothing to do with the constitution. It has become a dangerous and inappropriate use of congressional power as well political pandering to the "Rapture Right." Delay is hiding from his troubles in its shadow.

We must stand up to the American Taliban which is now having far too much influence in our country.

Juan Cole, once again has made his point brilliantly:

>snip<

The Schiavo Case and the Islamization of the Republican Party

The cynical use by the US Republican Party of the Terri Schiavo case repeats, whether deliberately or accidentally, the tactics of Muslim fundamentalists and theocrats in places like Egypt and Pakistan. These tactics involve a disturbing tendency to make private, intimate decisions matters of public interest and then to bring the courts and the legislature to bear on them. President George W. Bush and Republican congressional leaders like Tom Delay have taken us one step closer to theocracy on the Muslim Brotherhood model.

The Muslim fundamentalists use a provision of Islamic law called "bringing to account" (hisba). As Al-Ahram weekly notes, "Hisba signifies a case filed by an individual on behalf of society when the plaintiff feels that great harm has been done to religion." Hisba is a medieval idea that had all be lapsed when the fundamentalists brought it back in the 1970s and 1980s.

>snip<

Like many of his fundamentalist counterparts in the Middle East, Tom Delay is rather cynically using this issue to divert attention from his own corruption. Like the Muslim fundamentalist manipulators of Hisba, Delay represents himself as acting on behalf of a higher cause. He said of the case over the weekend, ' "This is not a political issue. This is life and death," '

Republican Hisba will have the same effect in the United States that it does in the Middle East. It will reduce the rights of the individual in favor of the rights of religious and political elites to control individuals. Ayatollah Delay isn't different from his counterparts in Iran.

Please read the middle section (down the page a bit).

http://www.juancole.com/



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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 08:50 PM
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1. Thank God, somebody is paying attention to what the hell is going
on in this country.

Good Post & digesting what you said.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:00 PM
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2. Does anyone believe that the US Supreme Court would...
actually vote in favor of re-inserting her feeding tube and un-doing all of the previous decisions?

I hope no one believes that!

The US Supreme Court has refused to hear this case--twice.

Does anyone think they will contradict their previous actions--and hear the case and side with the parents?

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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:09 PM
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4. I would never have believed they'd appoint a president
if it hadn't happened. Since then my respect for the third estate has been diminished considerably. After their decision (Bush v Gore), I felt like the constitution, or should I say, MY constitution had been raped. For the first time in my life I felt as though a betrayal like no other had been perpetrated against our democracy. They could have allowed the votes to be counted, but instead took it upon themselves to install a President. States rights are only important when they don't really matter I guess. The hyprocasy of these "Federalists" is amazing.

Which is why the Supreme Court decision, should it get that far will be very telling.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:18 PM
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9. What if someone threatens them?
What if someone gets to them? That's what I'm worried about. All these fundies are threatning judges already.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:05 PM
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3. What this is about...
Is the right wing congress destroying the power and authority of the judiciary and claiming it for themselves. Nothing more.

They do not want their fiats subject to judicial review.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:12 PM
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5. Ultimately the courts will have their say,
And if the right can't control the courts they will continue to try to subvert them.

I feel a chill. A theocratic fascist chill.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:12 PM
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6. The SCOTUS had three chances to intervene last year
they treated the case like a radioactive rock.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:18 PM
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8. But it wasn't front page like this.
I really wish my fundamental belief in the balance of powers wasn't destoyed in 2000. But I havn't seen SOCTUS in the same light since.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:15 PM
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7. I'm still wondering who gave them the authority
Edited on Tue Mar-22-05 09:16 PM by Rex
to decide the outcome of a federal election, last time I checked that was OUR FUCKING JOB, not theirs. Pompous asshats, I will always hold this SCOTUS group accountable for the demise of the Republic. Just look how Scalia flaunts his stolen powers. What an evil fucking man.
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