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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:06 PM
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will someone please explain to me how a Native American kid
gets turned on to Nazi ideology?

Then, will someone please explain the concept of an ecumenical racial purity organization?

:freak:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:08 PM
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1. Oh for fuck's sake, the kid was mentally ill
His dad committed suicide four years ago, and his mom was in a nursing home because of a horrible car accident.

The poor kid was disturbed and hopeless-- like a lot of kids who grow up on the Red Lake rez.

Can we please have a moratorium on the "WTF was wrong with this kid?" threads? Please?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:11 PM
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3. I didn't mean for it to be a "WTF was wrong with this kid?" thread.
It does strike one as odd, though, to say the least.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:17 PM
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8. Well, mentally ill people do some crazy shit
Antonin Artaud, the French playwright, thought that people masturbating 'destroyed' his being, and was convinced there was a secret cell in Syria that was out to destroy him.

Frederich Nietzche flipped out when he saw a horse being flogged.

Mark David Chapman shot John Lennon because he thought Lennon insulted God when he said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus.

John Hinckley Jr. shot President Reagan because he wanted to impress actress Jody Foster.

And the list goes on....
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:54 PM
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12. Well, I might propose that he was "targeting" perceived neo-nazis,...
,...as a result of stumbling upon the hate-filled neo-nazi group.

:shrug:

However, there are insufficient facts to fill in the holes. So, my proposal is pure speculation based upon this question: "if I were a distressed Native American teenager and stumbled upon a neo-nazi blogspot, how would I react?"

:shrug:
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:16 PM
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6. I'm in the minority, but I can't help thinking
that anyone who guns down multiple strangers (or aquaintances) is mentally ill. I just don't see how one could do it otherwise. I don't see that it even needs proving. Some guy pulls out a gun and mows down a bunch of people - that's crazy, kinda by definition.

A doctor was sending a patient to my wife for a psychiatric consult. He paged her and said "This guy's crazy. I don't know what kind of crazy, but he's crazy allright."

I'm excluding soldiers, of course (although a fair number of them wind up mentally ill afterward, but that's a different circumstance).
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Nikepallas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:08 PM
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2. Is this in reference to the Minnisota shooting?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:12 PM
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4. yes. n/t
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:12 PM
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5. More here nt
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:16 PM
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7. ecumenical racial purity organization.....
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:19 PM
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9. Watch a film called 'The Believer"
About a Jew who gets turned on to Nazi stuff.
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prattleon Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:44 PM
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11. Fascinating film
I had to watch it in political theory class.
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 06:31 PM
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10. Being a minority doesn't automatically pre-program you with tolerance.
In grade school, some boys got interested in WWII stuff, and an offshoot group of neo-Nazi 7-year olds resulted. One of the kids was Catholic. Another was Black. Their parents eventually taught the truth and the kids quickly moved onto other things. But for a few months, it was downright scary.





I also recall seeing an episode of Jerry Springer long ago where some White supremacists in their early 20s tried to show off how wholesome and family-oriented they were. One woman came from a Jewish background, and she paraded around stage in a Nazi uniform.






Ideas can twist just as readily as human minds do.

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:32 PM
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13. back in high school,
a friend of mine who moved from south carolina SWORE up and down that there were black KKK members in that state...Until now I had always thought it unbelievable, but my friend has never lied to me
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:42 PM
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14. It's not unusual for non-white people to become attracted to
white people and their institutions. It's because the white people have more money and more power than non-whites. The sub-conscience message is, if I were closer to being white, I could have what they have. It's the same reason Eva Peron bleached her hair blond, because she knew she would be more popular among the lower classes.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 09:45 PM
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15. This may be kinda different, but on Howard Stern this morning...
Edited on Tue Mar-22-05 09:48 PM by sonicx
They played a repeat interview of a black woman who hated black people...
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