Self-Proclaimed "Native Nazi" Jeff Weise

[elehhhhna]

A neo-nazi 'angel of death'

Sarah Left uncovers a series of website posts apparently linking Jeff Weise to extreme rightwing politics

Tuesday March 22, 2005


Jeff Weise, the 17-year-old named in newspaper reports as the gunman in the Red Lake school shooting, may have been investigated last year in connection with a shooting threat to the school, according to posts made on a Nazi website.
Over a five-month period between March and August 2004, someone identifying himself as Weise posted numerous messages on a talkboard hosted by Nazi.org, the website of the Libertarian National Socialist Green party. The party promotes a Nazi philosophy of racial purity.

In March 2004, a chatroom participant tagged Todesengel ("angel of death") began a thread titled "Native American Nationalist?" and introduced himself as "Jeff Weise, a Native American from the Red Lake 'Indian' reservation in Minnesota". Todesengel expressed interest in joining the party and said he had done a great deal of research on Hitler, a man he much admired. Later in the thread, Todesengel changed his tag to NativeNazi.
"When I was growing up, I was taught (like others) that Nazi's were (are) evil and that Hitler was a very evil man, ect," wrote Todesengel, in a quote not corrected for spelling and grammar. "Of course, not for a second did I believe this. Upon reading up on his actions, the ideals and issues the German Third Reich adressed, I began to see how much of a lie had been painted about them. They truly were doing it for the better."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1443462,00.html

[KamaAina]

1. Just when I thought I'd seen it all

if only someone had told him how Hitler really felt about people who looked like him...

[strangemedicine]

2. Words fail me. n/t

[Bunny]

3. Did the Nazis consider Native Americans to be Aryan?

Somehow I doubt it.

[SpiralHawk]

6. Nah, but there is a long-standing German fascination

with the Noble Red Man.

Speaking of noble, that's a good excuse to quote the late Grandfather Leon Shenandoah:

"We must stand together, the four sacred colors of humanity, as the one family that we are, in the interest of peace.We must abolish nuclear and conventional weapons of war. We must raise leaders of peace. We must unite the religions of the world as a spiritual force strong enough to prevail in peace We human beings are a spiritual energy that is thousands of times stronger than nuclear energy. Our energy is the combined will of all people with the spirit of the natural world, to be of one body, one heart, and one mind for peace."
- The late Leon Shenandoah, Tadadaho for the Haudenausenee (Iroquois)

[MsTryska]

4. Libertarian National Socialist Green party

what the hell?


how did they make this mean Nazis?



and my head is about to explode contemplating a Native kid raised with other natives wanting to be a neo-nazi.


maybe if he were white kid on res land, or a native kid surrounded by white people, but a native kid on native land?

[no name no slogan]

5. Oh for fuck's sake GIVE THE KID A BREAK

He was a troubled and disturbed young man whose mother was in a nursing home because of a serious car accident and whose father committed suicide four years ago.

The Red Lake reservation is a desperate, impovershed place that enjoys third-world living conditions and a 40% unemployment rate. My father's family is from around that region, and let me tell you the poverty up there puts ANYTHING I've seen in the inner city to shame.

Please, leave the poor kid alone already. His family has suffered enough.

[roguevalley]

7. agreed. he was high risk for this kind of end.

[elehhhhna]

8. The reepsp will have a fit, but

this is an example of what desperation, lack of human services, poverty and mental illness will reap.

And the faith-based Baptist initiatives ain't gonna dent it.

I just heard from a pal who grew up on a diff. reservation about 10 miles from there and she said it was SO rough and SO destitute that her H.S. basketball team didn't want to play theirs--even for home games.

[no name no slogan]

9. Agreed, but I really hate to see this poor kid exploited-- for ANY reason

BTW, did your friend grow up on White Earth? That's about 10 miles away from where my dad came from. Even for the non-Indians up there, life is tough. There's all these "farms" up there, but the growing season is maybe three months long-- all you can grow is potatoes. The winters are unbearable, and there is NO opportunity.

That's why my dad left at 15 and never went back.