New CNN poll, GOP in trouble over Schiavo mess

[Jon8503]

by John in DC - 3/21/2005 06:37:00 PM

My sources tell me there's a new CNN poll coming out at 7pm EST that confirms the public is NOT happy with the GOP over this Terri Schiavo mess. Details coming soon, but this confirms the earlier ABC poll that Joe posted below.

Oh that the Democrats listened to us crazy bloggers who said this issue was outrageous and that the American public would be on our side. I mean, I'm glad some Dems like Pelosi did speak out, but there was hardly a Democratic counter-attack on this issue commensurate with the attack the GOP did in pushing this issue, especially in the Senate.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/03/new-cnn-poll-gop-in-trouble-over.html

[wryter2000]

1. Thanks!

I can't wait. I wonder how the rethugs are going to back away from this one.

[libhill]

11. Same way

they weasel out of everything - just shout Praise the Lord / God Bless America, and the good ol' American Public will remember that these are good God fearing folk, who always know what's best for us.

[deadparrot]

2. I doubt they're really in any serious trouble.

Still, it'll be fun to see them squirm.

But isn't it past 7PM EST?

[rodeodance]

4. yes, things like this tend to slide right off of them--I, too love a bit

of the squirm--but do not see that yet.

[DesEtoiles]

5. Yes. We all enjoyed watching DeLay rape the Constitution.

[ailsagirl]

48. Like they've been raping the Constitution for four years now...

But don't you think that little-by-little people are getting fed up?? The GOP ("greedy old party") has pulled so much crap in the last four years-- it's human nature to say, "OK-- THAT'S ENOUGH-- THEY WENT TOO FAR." The neocons at the top are increasingly out-of-control-- and it can't go on forever... whether it's with a whimper or a bang, they will crash and burn. Count on it.

Whether we are aware of it or not, we all have a system of checks and balances in our heads. We (liberals) got it a LONG time ago. But because rethugs are stubborn (and have terminal tunnel vision) their followers are loath to admit this so-called administration is blowing it, hence they go along with the neocon agenda... until it hits home-- and hard. * isn't serving the people (Dem OR rethug)-- only the rich corporations and very wealthy are benefiting from him and his disgustingly greedy policies. And the beneficiaries hardly comprise a majority in this country.

* and his conniving thugs have been sowing the seeds of their own destruction for a long time now. I'd hate to be in their shoes.

[Gman]

3. "the public" is not the target of this politicizing

the target is the fundies. If the public still has some problems by this time next November, they'll start another war or bomb something to get "the public" back in line.

[Pirate Smile]

9. Exactly. They want to keep the RW fundies hyped up for 2006. They

couldn't care less about the polls unless they include the "registered voters" numbers, more specifically the die-hards that vote in off year elections.

[libhill]

17. Now, now

One never knows when some backward ass Third World country with a fierce army of archers and matchlock men, might threaten poor defenseless little America's freedom. Especially if it turns out that said country has oil , uh, I mean that their Evil Dictator was somehow involved in 911, and wants to attack America with his awesome flotilla of rowboats. But as Dan RatherNot used to say, "Courage"!

[nadinbrzezinski]

I do hope somethign finally sticks to these thugs

[sonicx]

6. This will slide. Every corrupt thing these people do is forgotten

in 2 months.

[achtung_circus]

7. Vote here

<http://edition.cnn.com/>

Who should decide Terri Schiavo's fate?

Politicians
1%
493 votes

Judges
5%
4234 votes

Her parents
25%
19575 votes

Her husband
69%
54613 votes

Total: 78915 votes

[BlueManDude]

18. 69% husband

[Califooyah Operative]

34. There's also a slightely different quickvote on www.cnn.com

it's weird.

[FreedomAngel82]

39. Surprised

A little surprised really. Everybody seems to side with the husband. Doy.

[FreedomAngel82]

40. I just voted

and it's 70% the husband. 25% her parents. 5% judges and 1% politicans. It's 12:03am est.

[TomClash]

8. Where was HIllary on this issue?

[girl gone mad]

10. The Senate voted unanimously..

for "Terri's Law".

[rox63]

13. Quite a few of the Senators did not vote

This vote was called during a Congressional and Senate recess, and late on a Sunday night. A lot of the Senators weren't even in town, and thus did not vote.

[SidDithers]

14. Yup, the 3 of them that were there all voted for it...

That would be Frist, Harkin and one other whose name escapes me.

Edit: The 3rd was Santorum.

Sid

[girl gone mad]

25. Thanks for letting me know.

That's honestly the first time I've read that.

The news has been reporting that it was a unanimous vote in the Senate, and even the lib bloggers I read haven't given further details.

[johnaries]

16. That unanimous vote was only 3 Senators.

None of those 3 requested a quorum, so the vote stood.

[Synnical]

19. That's what I heard Randi say today

But can't locate the Corporate Media reporting that anywhere

[Warpy]

20. That means one, two, or three total flaming nutcases

can hang out in the building any time the rest of the body goes on recess, even in the middle of the night, and "pass" any sort of crackpot, unconstitutional, jackass thing they can dream up.

No way is this shit going to stand for long.

[janx]

23. It flabbergasted me to hear this. I'm still reeling from it.

That's exactly what it means.

[librechik]

24. the senate has different quorum rules

they may get away with this there--it wouldn't fly in the House.

[TomClash]

29. As I understand it only Frist Harkin and Santorum voted.

3 votes!

There was no quorum and Harkin didn't request a quorum call!

What's up with that?

[Zynx]

33. Didn't want to give the Republicans an inflammatory vote

No "Hillary supports killing crippled people" stuff.

Smart of the dems.

[TomClash]

50. Not so smart

when 2/3 of the people support Michael Schiavo

[LiberalinNC]

12. It's disgusting the way the threw themselves into this woman's

private life. Makes me sick - they once again are Trying to playing "God".

[bookman]

15. It's time...

...for a Terror Alert!

[libhill]

22. LOL

So true. By the way, anyone notice that the terror alert bull shit kind of dropped off of the radar after Chimp got re-selected? Hmmmm -

[Ms. Clio]

37. Yeah, and BinForgotten seems to have disappeared again, too

Just popped up long enough to make that campaign commercial, then, heyo, presto, it was back to the "cave."

[libhill]

38. He'll be baaaack

Just in time for the '08 elections! That is, if the C.I.A. gets his paycheck to him on time -

[FreedomAngel82]

41. Yep

Sad really. Bush was even talking about him a little bit there. But of course it was just for the "tough" talk. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

42. Yep

Sad really. Bush was even talking about him a little bit there. But of course it was just for the "tough" talk. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

43. Yep

Sad really. Bush was even talking about him a little bit there. But of course it was just for the "tough" talk. :eyes:

[FreedomAngel82]

44. Sorry for all the dupes

Internet was running slow. I apologize.

[Ms. Clio]

46. LOL--no problem--I was just surprised to see so many replies

I'm not used to it. :D

[David K.]

21. "....pontifical posturing among politicians..."

Speaking just for himself, Rev. C. Welton Gaddy, President, The Interfaith Alliance said today in an email to me….

“A family’s grief over the loss of a loved one is being compounded by pontifical posturing among politicians and religious leaders who know too little about the situation even to comment on it much less to attempt to control it. A tragic situation is being made more tragic by the insensitive intrusion into it by Washington politicians seeking yet another venue for speaking to their partisan constituencies and for strengthening their political “base.” For Congress and the White House to jump into this tragic situation at the last minute, after years of court proceedings, and to take a position on the value of life so inconsistent with, if not contradictory to, many of their other decisions, represent unconscionable meddling in the private decision of an American family—a family who needs our thoughts and prayers, not our spirit of blatant judgment and our not-too-subtle politicization.”

[jaysunb]

28. Amen

I don't have much use for preachers, but the Rev. Gaddy has summed it up very nicely.

[Mark E. Smith]

26. This Was All Just A Sop To The Xtian Right...

...and whether or not Terry Schiavo lives or dies is of little importance to the Bush Mob. After all, to say that the same people who have bombed 100,000 innocent Iraqis to smithereens cares about 1 brain dead victim of whatever tragedy is to take part in an exercise of cosmic absurdity.

Republicans have learned to expect that while most people will forget about this sad little moment in the great events parade, their sadly deluded "values" people will cling to this one for years with gratitude and awe. Evangelicals and their ilk have become the most doted upon GOP constituency.

[0007]

27. CNN poll - The same poll reflected the same results a few days ago

before it was pulled. This poll won't stay up long either.

Created: Monday, March 21, 2005, at 16:17:55 EST
Who would you want to make the decision about pulling the plug if you were in a vegetative state?

Spouse
78%
29672 votes

Parent
14%
5461 votes

Somebody else
7%
2717 votes

Total: 37850 votes

[MattBaggins]

30. Why counter attack?

They tried to politicize this issue and it backfired. Any counter might have been veiwed as also politizing the issue. The Republicans shot themselves in the foot. No need for our side to pick up the gun and look down the barrel to see if it is still loaded.

[cry baby]

31. You're right, it'll be hard for the repubs to say they are for the

sanctity of marriage after this fiasco.

[FreedomAngel82]

45. I agree

It was smart for the House dems to have the little press conference thing and then Pelosi to speak but other then that I wouldn't say anything else. This is all the republicans doing. Let them hang themselves.

[Califooyah Operative]

32. so is this the poll?

on ths cnn.com >us page> underneath the headline "Federal court hears Schiavo case" >• Interactive: Opinion poll >CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL> Removing Terri Schaivo's feeding tube

[jazzjunkysue]

35. Randi said it's all to pull votes away from dem senator nelson florida

This is in the rnc talking points memo: "This is a great political issue, because it will excite the right to lifers."

Personally, I think this is an act of desparation. They're losing their war monger base, and their right to life base, because the economy is so bad. They lost their economic base a while ago, so, I see this as the monkey shoring up his last ounce of support, and he's gonna step in it.

This is good news.

[johnaries]

36. here it is:

Fifty-six percent of Americans agree with the decision to remove the feeding tube -- including 54 percent of Republicans and 55 percent of people who attend church at least monthly, according to a poll released Monday.

The CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll was based on telephone interviews of 909 American adults from Friday to Sunday. The margins of error for the questions ranged from plus-or-minus 3 percentage points to plus-or-minus 7 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/21/schiavo/index.html

[Rex]

47. Of course they are in trouble, Repukes are criminal asshats!

IMO, this is DeLay's puppy. The mood of the country is reflecting upon their distaste for Tommy Boy and Dubya's rush to sign the bill...er well maybe not so fast. Indecisive criminals, bad label for politicos.

[killbotfactory]

49. Because they are all disgusting shameless jackasses

There is no bottom these assholes can hit, they just keep getting lower.

[Maestro]

51. I hope the public is not happy

I have n-ever seen such meddling in people's business like this rethuglican admin. Who the hell do they think they are? This latest crop of self-righteous repukes turn my stomach even more than usual. Adn this is from the party that purportedly wants more "local control", less government, a less meddling in people's lives. I am just waiting for the 9-11 reference to pop up concerning Schiavo.