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mopaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:58 AM
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"Why are Liberals so Anti-Religion"?...Joe Scarborough wants to know
just caught a blurb for joe's upcoming episode of scarborough country in which the above question is posed. trying to find the air time, probably within a day or two.

......are liberals anti religion? i'm sure some are, and some aren't. is this a good thing or a bad thing?

of course joe will say we want to imprison all believers or some such shit, when the opposite is true if the current zealots are given free reign.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 11:59 AM
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1. Why are conservatives rejecting the "sanctity of marriage"
that they so often trumpet in the gay marriage debate?

Why do they hate marriage?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:00 PM
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2. Does Joe take callers?
Because I would love to call in and ask why he's such a Bush's-ass-worshipping Puke prick.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:13 PM
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24. Nope.
But feel free to contact MSNBC and express your displeasure:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518/
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:09 PM
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54. I've seen his show a few times
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 01:10 PM by FreedomAngel82
and he never has. He should. You can Email him but he picks and chooses. Sometimes it's fair and other times if he has a certain agenda it's not. One time he had a segment where he had two democrats and one republican. I was surprised at that!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:00 PM
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3. Hey Joe, why are Republicans such hypocrites?
And why aren't you being tried for the death of that intern in your office?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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4. "When did you stop killing interns, Joe?"... Liberals want to know
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:24 PM
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59. *snort*
very good.
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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5. Not Anti -Religion - We are Pro Seperation of Church and State
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:06 PM
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18. read some of the posts on here
you have people who use a broad brush to paint all people of faith as the enemy

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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:13 PM
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23. Perhaps because...
they confuse religion with faith.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:47 PM
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46. good point
I know some refuse to see the difference

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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6. Just like Joe to speak
in sweeping generalities. Liberals are not anti-religion. As a liberal I do not care what other people believe. I respect their believes as long as they do not insist that they become public policy.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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7. Why are dead interns found in Joe Scarborough's office??
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:21 PM
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56. LOL
So true. And did justice happen for the young intern? Obviously not. In today's Amerika you get your own tv show!
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BrainRants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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8. Why did Republicans convene special congressional session on the Sabbath?
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:21 PM
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57. Yep
So true. But they were "saving" someone so it had good intentions. :eyes:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:01 PM
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9. I'm will admit to being anti-theocracy.
I am surprised to find out I am anti-religion. I suspect the people at my church where I am very involved and attend weekly would also be very surprised to find out that I'm anti-religion.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:29 PM
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35. YOU'RE worried???
someone might contact my bishop! :scared:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:23 PM
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58. I know really
Why would you be sitting in a pew listening to the lesson and be anti-religion? :shrug: Joe's so funny.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:02 PM
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10. clue for joe the killer.....
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:02 PM
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11. Liberals aren't "anti-religion" at all, as a rule
They're pro-separation, pro-tolerance, pro stay-out-of-my-face with your values.

Shit. I remember when that was a Republican platform.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:03 PM
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12. because religion is used to make decisions that affect me
and where reason ends, faith begins. So, decisions based on religion can be against reason.

I want decisions which will impact me to be made on reason.

(Being an atheist doesn't make me anti-religion any more than being Christian makes someone anti-Jewish.)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:03 PM
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13. anti "their" religion
and i am. i was in it. along the last four years, i have continued to step away, as i am being shoved out. lol. joe has got to understand i reject his religion he professes. now if he wuld truly like an answer to his question, he might talk to the religions that are not of "his" religion. and maybe he would have a better grasp of the religion issue. then maybe he will be able to ask more productive unifying questions, instead of creating, they vs us
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:32 PM
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36. but, sea, that is specifically the right-wing agenda.
Divide and conquer. Make EVERY issue an "us" vs. "them."

I believe the Republican slogan should be "we are united in promoting division."
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:36 PM
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37. Republican slogan... "we are united in promoting division."
isnt that the truth, and the obvious. yes i know it is the agenda. i think the democrats just have got to start speaking out and to. i am challenging some ministers, and preists in my area. i am going to ask if they preach their is a smell to christians. i have a dobson book given to niece, that i need to read, i am going ot take out in public when i peruse it, to see what people say to me. i have already started challenging the christian baptists i am around, and i am seeing taking it further. more of us christians need to speak out.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:42 PM
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42. Good for you!!!
:yourock:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:39 PM
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64. my niece reminded me to put kerry bumpersticker on this morning
she goes to a fundie christian school i pulled kids out. so this was a good thing for her to ask for it, it could cause her issues at school. i like brave kids, lol. told all the kids, i want more. i want a sticker that says

liberal christian
dare to challenge
then a bumpersticker afterwards that says
bring it on

i wnat the average joe, wlaking in the grocery store to say something. i can talk with a smile and love. doesnt have ot be confrontational. we are christians after all, lol lol

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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:03 PM
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14. I just don't want to live in a theocracy
I am neutral about religion.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:04 PM
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15. Because religion is socially-sactioned psychosis
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:05 PM
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16. This liberal loves religion, and ravioli, and rock-n-roll.
And I see no reason to connect any of those 3 with the Federal government.


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AllegroRondo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:06 PM
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17. Not anti-religion; anti- religion running the government
I could care less what religion people want to follow. Its when they start legislating their version of the 'one true religion' that I have to stand up and say NO.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:06 PM
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19. Because religion is anti-democracy.
Increasingly, organized religion is buying into the right-wing wacko agenda. They have sold out and sold out any redeeming qualities in the process. If religion was no so alligned with the far right, liberal would not appear so any religious. Liberals are anti-religion the same way that Jews are anti NAZI. We would not be that way if we were not constantly under attack by them.

Democracy cannot run on faith. Atheism encourages critical thinking and a reliance on evidence. Faith is what the ruling class depends on.
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:26 PM
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33. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Organized religion is the breeding ground of fascism and is antithetical to a "melting pot" democracy that upholds ALL views as being equal.

JB
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:07 PM
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20. Why do CONS insist "Liberal" equals "Anti-Religion"?
I'm so sick of this shit! The 'big-tent' party must have 'anti-religious' people in it by definition; but Joe Scarecrow has to pick a nit and paint the whole body of opposition as evildoers. :nuke:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:29 PM
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60. Yes it makes me mad too
As a liberal and a Christian I'm disgusted by the fact that I hate religion because I'm a liberal. HEY JOE WE'RE CHRISTIANS TOO! GET OVER IT!
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:08 PM
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21. I AM anti-religion, I AM pro faith
Religion is a sales office pitch based on it's own self interest, imo, faith is how one chooses to live one's life based on tenets that need no sales pitch nor expensive building in which to sell the pitch.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:09 PM
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22. Why are Republicans so Pro-Fascism?
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OTownGuy Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:15 PM
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25. In case u missed....
This is a WEEEEK LOOOONG special on why liberals hate religion. Seems NBC is TOTALLY getting off on Dobson crowd. This is IT for me. Im even goign to stop watching SCRUBS.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:52 PM
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51. I've pretty much had it with the media in general
I own a 53" television, 2 tivos and I find myself watching TV less and less with each passing day because of the unbridled hypocrisy and massive propaganda we are being subjected to on a daily basis in even the most inocuous seeming television shows. If things don't start to change in the next few years, I'm seriously considering giving up and moving.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:32 PM
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61. Same here
I have a few shows I like to watch but in general I watch less tv then when I was a teen (I'm in my twenties now).
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:15 PM
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26. another clue for joe...
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 12:16 PM by leftchick
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:15 PM
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27. No we're just anti your religion Mr. Scarborough
But thanks a lot for perpetuating the propaganda.



Images of the AntiWar Protest 3/19 in Hollywood, California
http://ediablo.com/LAprotest3-19-05.html
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:17 PM
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28. "When did Joe Scarborough stop killing interns?"...America wants to know.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:21 PM
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29. "Why is Joe Scarborough and the repukes such ghouls?"--I want to know
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AngryWhiteLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:23 PM
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30. We're anti-dumbass, and dumbasses are attracted to fundie religious shit
Fundamentalism tends to attract the WORST in humankind.

JB
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:24 PM
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31. How did Joe get away with murder?
The rest of us want to know.
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newportdadde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:25 PM
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32. "What does Joe Scarborough have against attractive interns?
If she is good enough to have sex with why kill her? Pregnancy maybe?"

His show is the lowest rated on msnbc I believe.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:36 PM
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62. Could be
I think his show is pretty low. I watch it here and there to see what's going on. Did a case ever happen to figure out what happened with the intern? I wouldn't be surprised if she told him she was pregnant.
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The White Tree Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:26 PM
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34. Maybe Joe should ask Jesus
Jesus was quite critical of the religious leaders of his time. Could it be because the leadership of so many religions can often seem hypocritical in relation to the message of the religion?

I think he is just plain wrong. I don't think people who could be classified as liberal are anti-religion. To disagree with the tenets of a religion or with the way a religion is practiced or the way it is being lead by it's leaders doesn't mean your against it. Just about every religeous group in America got it's start this way. In particularly when a religion may be suppressing the rights of individuals who may not ascribe to those beliefs, I think it is important for both the practitioners of the religion and those who don't practice it to try to bring the truth to light.

For disclosure, I am a Catholic who attends service regularly.

Thanks for the update. I'll see if I can e-mail him.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:37 PM
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63. When you Email
be sure to mention what you did about Jesus being critical of religious leaders and a few Bible verses to back it up.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:38 PM
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38. Not "anti-religion" Joe, just anti-fanatics, loonies and their enablers.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:40 PM
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39. My grand father was a Leftie Clergyman (Like Really Leftie)
and used to observe that the people who "Prayed the Loudest" and were most ostentatious in their faith - were the biggest crooks.

    "What doth the Lord require of thee
    To do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with the Lord.


I don't see the Rapture Right doing justly, loving mercy, or walking humbly with the Lord. What I see are a lot of pompous hypocrites taking the Lord's name in vain and blaspheming the Lord's name.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:40 PM
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40. Why are so many Chritians Anti-Liberal?
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 12:40 PM by demwing
Jesus teaches "Judge not, lest yea be judged," and "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you."

Why do so many Christians reject the teachings of their God?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:41 PM
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41. I'm Anti-Religion?
I am proud to have a religion to call my own.

I guess I must hate religion so much because I support GLBT Rights, Minority Rights, and Women's Rights.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:44 PM
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43. Too bad Thomas Jefferson is not here to SMACK that
mistress-murdering doofus into oblivion.

Gawd I hate that pandering prick.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:46 PM
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44. "No passport required...bring your own dead intern"
yes i'm sure Joe is oh so pious himself....not.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:47 PM
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45. LOL Joe
He's so stupid. He should try talking to me! I'm a liberal who is a CHRISTIAN! And freakin proud of it. So don't tell me Joey I'm anti-religion!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:48 PM
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47. Aren't Conservatives the ones who want to kill all muslims?
That sounds like an "anti-Religion" position if I have ever heard one...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:49 PM
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48. The US Constitution
Keep your religion out of my government and I will keep my government out of your religion.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:50 PM
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49. hey joe
how come you people are so afraid to let this woman die?.......if you believed in Gos and really have faith.you would let her enter the gates of Heaven...........you really don't believe in God or the hereafter.do you?..you religious people truly have no Faith when it comes to death.......only when it involves the commandments on public property and monies that go to peach your cause.

what exactly is your cause?......
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:51 PM
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50. What makes conservatives think liberals are anti-religion?
We're not opposed to religion; what makes America such a religious nation is that most Americans are religious by their own God-given free will. We're opposed to forced religion; not free religion.
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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 12:56 PM
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52.  We don't worship greed Joey.
We don't worship false profits or corporate profits.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:00 PM
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53. Scarmurderer is the one who should be answering questions...
not us. Why is anyone even watching that filth anyway. He sucks in a vomitus, spirit crushing way.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:15 PM
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55. hmm let's see.
because religion has been the basis either directly or indirectly for most of the evil committed by man against his fellow man throughout history. I'm anti greed and anti racist too any questions on those Joe?
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:45 PM
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65. Hmmm..
I wonder when I'll see the MSM editorials asking how can faith-focused Republicans can reach out to lay voters, including liberal Democrats. I won't hold my breath.

In the meantime, vicious smears like this are not only tolerated, they're actually regarded as important debate!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:46 PM
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66. I'm not anti-religion.
I'm a Christian who actually remembers what Jesus taught. And it sure as hell wasn't this hate crap the right wing is spewing all over everyone.

I'm against alternately ignoring and perverting Jesus' teachings for their own hateful ends.

THAT'S what I'm against.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:48 PM
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67.  I'm anti-HYPOCRITE, not anti-religion.
Edited on Mon Mar-21-05 01:50 PM by kaitykaity
Most of these "So called Christians" profess their Christianity
and the fuck their secretaries or their gardeners, steal
from their employees, cheat on their taxes, walk around in
fancy clothes, drive fancy cars, wear fancy jewelry,
live in a fancy house.

All things that Jesus of Nazareth did not teach. That is
not the "essence" of the teachings, which are poverty and
generosity and caring for your fellow human beings.

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