What Pro-Life Would Actually Mean

[Plaid Adder]

I'll tell you what, Republicans. I'll make you a deal.

I'll give up my right to choose--and, what the hell, my right to die. BUT, only if you give up your right to kill.

That's right, guys. If you're going to be the party of life, then you have to respect ALL life. And that means:

* no executions
* no letting the poor starve, die of exposure, or die of treatable conditions because they have no health insurance
* no refusing to teach people how to avoid fatal STDs
* no assassination, coup-fomenting, or training death squads to prop up 'friendly' regimes
* and, of course, no war. Ever.

In return, you are welcome to force me to bear any child I may conceive, and keep me on a ventilator long after my brain has turned to guacamole.

How about it, guys?

What do you mean, you're gonna have to talk to your lawyers?

All right, I'll wait,

The Plaid Adder

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Im in.

[coloradodem2005]

2. I'm with you there.

[proud2BlibKansan]

Terrific!

I couldn't agree more.

We need to milk this thing for all we can get out of it.

[Hippo_Tron]

3. But, but...

Jesus taught us that poor people and Arabs deserve to die.
:eyes:

[checks-n-balances]

22. HUH??? Jesus did NOT teach that!

Unless you're being facetious, you're just dead wrong for confusing the leader with some of his misguided followers.

I'm surprised nobody challenged that statement.

[tavalon]

24. That would be a stab at irony, I think n/t

I think most of us here know far better than the average fundie Christian what Christ stood for.

[Hippo_Tron]

25. The rolleyes indicates sarcasm

I was being sarcastic because I know that Jesus would never teach that anybody deserves to die.

[checks-n-balances]

27. D'oh! I wondered about that, but didn't have on my reading glasses

and didn't notice that the little green icon was rolling his little eyes back inside his little head.

Thanks for pointing that out to me - that'll teach me to jump to conclusions!:eyes::eyes::eyes:

[warrior1]

4. You ROCK!

:loveya:

[BeHereNow]

5. Beauti-mous...

splendi-forous...
Fan-tabulous...
You have, as usual, summed it up perfectly.
BHN

[caledesi]

6. Yeah, what do you lurking freepers have to say about this?

BTW PA, I always say that it's not "pro-life" - it's "pro-birth."

As Randi Rhodes would say: 'Love the fetus; hate the child.'

[NVMojo]

7. Logical and Excellent!!!! And true!!

[warrior1]

8. Recommended for Greatest page

Two votes or more it will appear on the Greatest Page.

[BeHereNow]

10. I second your motion...

Vote this puppy to the front folks...
Then all the visiting freeper's heads will
explode as they attempt to reason it
out in their feeble brains.
BHN

[FreedomAngel82]

9. You'll be waiting a while

Remember these are the PNAC people who love war and military might so you'll be waiting a good little while. It's so hypocritical and disgusting that Bush is making a "special" trip from his vacation in Texas to come sign this bill while millions of Iraqi's die everyday and more soliders. :argh:

[izzie]

11. War party becomes the pro-life party?

This is funny even if the subject is not.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

12. Great post. Calling them at their hypocrisy.

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[DawnneOBTS]

14. We'll be waiting a long long time...

They could care less what our opinions are. They only hear what they wanna hear.

[IronLionZion]

15. Democrats are the real pro-life party

you can support choice and life at the same time without caving or compromising. Democratic policies help sustain human life. Social programs are pro-life. We're civilized so we want people to live. And when people have a living wage, and health care, and all that, they won't hesitate to choose life.

That's why there are more abortions during Bush's presidency than during Clinton's.

Excellent post :toast:

[caledesi]

18. Good point ILZ. More abortions w/ *!! Why?

Because people can't AFFORD to have a child w/ these thugs running things, that's why.

Aren't you happy the 8-year "nightmare" of peace and prosperity are over?

edit: usual stuff

[IronLionZion]

19. yeah peace and prosperity was sooo boring

/kidding

I'll never take it for granted again

[MelissaB]

16. Hellava post!

[Tace]

17. A Problem With Illegal Abortion Is The Suffering That Ensues

Think coat hangers and poison brews.

[caledesi]

21. How's this for a "great " and very sad story:

Illegal abortions...let me tell you a story. (didn't find out about this til I was older). Scandal of the family

Grew up in small tourist town in New England and many years ago, my uncle stationed overseas (this was in the 40s). His wife (my aunt)got pregnant by another man while my uncle was away. She DIES from a botched abortion.

They had FOUR children and after that debacle, my other aunt took one of the kids and the rest went to foster homes. My uncle was shamed into leaving town and went to California. When I was growing up I DIDN'T even know I had this uncle until my father died at 58 and "some guy" calls our house saying he is "Uncle Bob." :wtf:

Oh yeah...horrible story.

To this day, I don't understand why my other aunts/uncles didn't take the other kids because they only had one and two kids respectively. We had 6 kids in our family, so I guess that I can understand. NO I CAN'T.

[Ilsa]

20. Excellent post! Sounds like a compromise.

At least we'd do away with all of the hypocrisy.

This has been one of the things I liked about the Pope (and there is only a little I like about him): he has been consistently pro-life whether it is war or abortion or poverty.

[Merope215]

23. That's true

I feel exactly the same way about the Pope. You have to admire the consistency of his position, if nothing else.

[AllegroRondo]

34. Abortion, poverty, death penalty, war

at least he is consistant. I can respect that.

[AuntiBush]

26. Count me in! I'm waiting w/the Plaid Adder...

Anyone care to wager bets we'll get a "no show" on this one.

Nominated! Thank's. Great pieces lately. Keep it rolling and toss their hypocritcal ball back in their BS faces!

[checks-n-balances]

28. I've NEVER heard one admit their hypocrisy

so I'm not holding my breath either.

This was a great thread, P.A. - do keep us posted if you hear anything...

[lostnfound]

29. I'm in, too.

Can we get this part: "no assassination, coup-fomenting, or training death squads to prop up 'friendly' regimes, and, of course, no war. Ever." into our OWN party platform too?

[Pooka Fey]

30. Sweet post. Thanks.

[annabanana]

31. MORE than reasonable, PA.....

Let me know if you get any "takers". I'm in.

[progressoid]

32. Send this to your elected congresspeople. I love it!!

[TheCentepedeShoes]

33. Throw in

protection for the environment that supports the life of all of us on this planet.

[SpaceBuddy008]

35. ProLife...Right?..then WHY? no outrage at PROLIFErate???

why no outrage? from these phonies about ProLiferation of weapons??

US spreads and has the biggest GunStore on the planet, and we take RESPONSE ABILITY for little!

IF Right to Birth...,THEN Why not BirthRights

including the right to vote?

these hypocrits don't know what they believe, such falseness, make
it up as they go along

I would not TOUCH a gun, they are anti-human and barbaric, devil's tools.

www.cognitiveliberty.com

[thinkingwoman]

36. Right behind you!

Where do I sign?

Hell, they can hook me up to the matrix after I'm gone for all I care...as long as everyone eats and gets to see a doctor and has access to meds and never comes home from a battlefield in pieces.

It's a small price to pay really.

[Sparkly]

37. They don't like science preserving life if it uses stem cells

I find that a great irony, too. It's okay for science to prevent death in this case, but science using otherwise-discarded embryos or involving the much-dreaded, misunderstood "cloning" are a NO-- no extending the lives of thinking, feeling, beloved people with diseases that might be cured from such research. It doesn't fit in with their political agenda.