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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:47 AM
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A New Strategy
It seems as though nothing is working, we can't oppose the Republicans in any way it seems. Ah, but there is.

Let me give you a scenario.

Imagine America as a person who wants to press a shiny red button, this button is the Bush and Republican Agenda. The Democratic Party is another person who wants to stop America from pressing the button because pressing the button would give America a shock.

Instead of constantly trying to stop that button from being pushed, we should go along with it and let America press the button and get shocked.

Instead of stone-walling Conservatives, let's enable them. Besides, it would make for an excellent psychological tactic against the RW'ers.

I'm not saying we should turn Conservative, while the Democrats are enabling the Republicans, we can build groups faster than ever before to counter the Republicans.

What do you all think?
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:19 AM
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1. I recently read something similar
Edited on Sun Mar-20-05 11:20 AM by freethought
I don't recall who wrote the article but the author floated the idea of having the Democrats 'tend and sustain' their home bases of support and let the Red states stew with their decisions. The idea was that, in time, the Red states will come around as their situation economicly worsens and by then the Democrats will simply have to 'open the door'.
The idea had merit but the author had few details.

The thing I don't like about the idea you have is that we are at this point now. This makes a problem with perception, many people percieve that the Democratic party isn't really much different from Republicans.
Most people who are democrat want an opposition party but the don't see that they are getting it.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:25 AM
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2. We would become accomplices to the crime.
I feel we need to keep the light on the criminality of the republican agenda, and to continue defining our party through these differences in philosophy.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:28 AM
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3. If they want another war
We would snap back into action, I'm talking about the parts of their agenda that are domestic and less-deadly.

We need to attack and damage the RW'ers the same way they have done to us during the Clinton years to today.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:09 AM
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6. The damage they are doing today will take years to unravel.
Some of it will take decades, and some of it will never be repaired. We need to stop them in their tracks. If we comply, then they will always say "the democrats supported this bill, and now they are opposed to it".

Clear distinctions between us and them would be the most helpful IMHO.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:28 AM
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4. How about we let the GOP send east coast sewage to Kentucky
In fact let them send our shit to every Red State..... The fundies will eat that shit up....
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blogbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 11:31 AM
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5. Everyone In the Red..
Didn't want to be there!
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:10 AM
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7. My little dawg
took a shit on my republican brothers carpet yesterday. I was so proud.
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adwon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 06:55 AM
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8. This isn't that new
LaFollette and other progressives toyed with the idea of splitting the Democratic vote in 1936 in order to elect Landon. The idea was that the election of Landon would aggravate the Depression and cause a shift to the far left in 1940. They found FDR just not liberal enough for their taste.

This is a morally bankrupt strategy. It treats people, who are ends in themselves, as means to a presumably noble end. However, the nobility of the end still does not justify the means.

The job of the Democratic party today is to limit the damage. While it is attractive to lead the GOP into such a trap, it is irresponsible. Elected officials have no right to betray their constituents' short or long term interests in this way.
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