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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:33 PM
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Terri Schiavo did this to herself, now everyone else has to pay?
I learned recently that this entire situation came about because of her eating disorder. Terri made the wrong decisions in life--the wrong diet, and possibly even the wrong husband. What happened to personal responsibility? Why does the nation have to pay for this mess?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:34 PM
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:35 PM
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2. Ditto
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postulater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:35 PM
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4. What does this mean?

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:38 PM
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5. You get the idea
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 10:38 PM by WilliamPitt
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:52 PM
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15. for a possible interpretation
of the deeply esoteric code suggested in post #1 & #5 see post #13.

If I'm wrong then we can duke it out later.

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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:35 PM
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3. Please
Just fucking shoot me. I can't take it anymore
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:38 PM
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6. Personal responsibility....
...is only for those who economically inviable. Afterall, how much 'personal responsibility' has President Snippy taken?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:41 PM
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7. It's just toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
mucchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

This is like a macabe version of the "Truman Show".
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:46 PM
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11. Yep. Our elite overlords
Are not to be held responsible for their screw-ups. Bush/Cheney et. al. and Ken Lay were just fulfilling their manifest destiny. What's the matter with you? Why do you hate America? :eyes:
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:25 PM
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17. The real question....
...is why do they hate Americans?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:42 PM
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8. there is no such thing as personal responsibility
will Mr.bush cut his vacation short to get me a pony? i've always wanted a pony but could never afford one because welfare never gives me enuf monie to by one
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:44 PM
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9. Where will you be when Terry dies?
This could be when Fox News-CNN-CBN jumps the shark.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:45 PM
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10. Tell me only this.
That when you are in a similar position, you will cheerfully
admit that your cigarettes, fast food, breathing rush hour pollution,
etc all represented bad choices and that scarce health care facilities be saved for the wise and virtuous.

When you are felled by something you might have avoided, if only you lived a perfect life, and made all the right choices, I predict your reasoning here, such as it is, will ring hollow.

The social Darwinism you advocate has a name, but it is not civilization.




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Used and Abused Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:49 PM
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14. yeah yeah
Terri Schiavo is brain dead... The fact that she did this to herself only heightens my irritation.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:46 PM
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12. that's just...wrong....
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:48 PM
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13. Eating disorders are illnesses.
The overwhelming plethora of compassion from both sides truly astounds me.

sarcasm/

Let this woman either scarcely live or die as she would so desire. It's more than likely that only she and her maker know that.

It's really quite tragically sad either way.

This intense polarization over what is right or not right for this poor long sufferring woman is nothing short of heart wrenching and entirely devisive.

It's also really distracting from far many more vibrant and viable lives around the globe that are suffering from circumstances that are far more easily and ethically fixable.

Pullease. . . enough of this.

Ughhhhhh.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:02 PM
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16. I do understand what you are saying...
...but I am more angry at her parents. It's because of her parents that this entire thing has become a nightmare.

An eating disorder is a tragic, horrible situation. Often times, it's a coping mechanism that helps a person deal with trauma or pain--until they are strong enough to deal with the root of their problems.

In most (but not all cases) so much denial surrounds someone with an eating disorder. Usually, an eating disorder develops within a dysfunctional family system, and Terri began her dieting/ED behaviors while she was a young person living at home.

So---she's coping in an unhealthy way. Her family copes by denial and Terri marries a man who denies the ED too.

Furthermore, her nimrod parents are still denying that she had the eating disorder! They would much rather believe that Michael, her husband, killed her. That's what they're currently suggesting!

In trial after trial--her husband and her friends have stated that they witnessed bulimic behaviors. Also, her screwed up electrolyte levels and low potassium levels (which are hallmarks of long-term bulimic habits) suggest that she did have this eating disorder. Her sister, last night on Larry King said they have "evidence" that Michael strangled Terry. For the love of Pete.

I do have empathy for anyone with an eating disorder. Sometimes the pain is just too much. However--in this case--it's an all around tragedy--with everyone in this scenario behaving so irrationally and like a big dysfunctional group.

In a way, you are right--all of these people (Terri, her husband, her friends who ignored the ED, and ESPECIALLY her family of origin) failed each other (including themselves) and the resulting mess is what we see today.
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Bellamia Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:26 PM
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18. This is the best
"summary" I've read on this whole mess.
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