We've Got Ourselves a Rogue Governmment, Peeps - - Wingnuts AMOK

[UTUSN]

It's the Wingnut Periodic Psychosis Syndrome. Every few years, wingnuts/Fundies just RUN AMOK: Starting with Salem, on to "the Primitives" against the League of Nations and plotting to overthrow FDR, to McCARTHYism, to jingoistic war mongering. Now this, tailoring a LAW to ONE INDIVIDUAL. Isn't a Bill of Attainder supposed to be forbidden by the Constitution?

As if two national elections that were at least suspect and at most COUP, plus a war of aggression, plus anything-the-Hades-ELSE-goes--weren't enough to have clued us in that we have a ROGUE government.

I tried calling my congressman's office over this OUTRAGEOUS tyranny in the SCHIAVO case, the re-convening of Congress. No answer. The offices are CLOSED. So how, exactly, are these wonderful functionaries going to PASS this travesty.

Our Dems are collaborating in this. Somebody set my mind at ease, all this bill is supposed to do is to send the case to Federal court------and eventually the COURTS will validate that the legally appointed Guardian (the Spouse) who has NOT been removed for misconduct IS ACTING APPROPRIATELY--------no? Even so, it's bad enough that this is happening.

[Pharaoh]

1. They are absolute lunatics!

valium helps...........

[UTUSN]

2. Definitions: Bill of Attainder, and Ex Post Facto

Unfortunately these terms apply to CRIMINALIZING things, which the SCHIAVO bill apparently doesn't do, although it's bad enough that it is addressing ONE INDIVIDUAL. As in the 2000 Coup, when the scoundrels say, "This is NOT TO BE TAKEN AS A PRECEDENT," it's a sure sign that something tyrannical and illegal is going on.

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http://www.techlawjournal.com/glossary/legal/attainder.htm

Bill of Attainder

Definition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group for punishment without a trial.

The Constitution of the United States, Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: "No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed."

"The Bill of Attainder Clause was intended not as a narrow, technical (and therefore soon to be outmoded) prohibition, but rather as an implementation of the separation of powers, a general safeguard against legislative exercise of the judicial function or more simply - trial by legislature." U.S. v. Brown, 381 U.S. 437, 440 (1965).

http://www.law.cornell.edu/lexicon/ex_post_facto.htm

Ex post facto
Latin for "from a thing done afterward." Ex post facto is most typically used to refer to a law that applies retroactively, thereby criminalizing conduct that was legal when originally performed. Two clauses in the US Constitution prohibit ex post facto laws: Art 1, § 9 and Art. 1 § 10. see, e.g. Collins v. Youngblood 497 US 37 (1990) and California Dep't of Corrections v. Morales 514 US 499 (1995).
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[Pharaoh]

3. perhaps you may need oxycotin?

we're just on this train wreck with these morans in charge and we are headed for a cliff,

go with the flow..........

a few were wise to hitler in germany but these dark forces continue to rise and fall on the earth plane,

but whats really scary is that hitler did'nt have nukes...

[sacxtra]

4. crux of the biscuit, root of the oak

Wanna fix all this cruft?

Start at the beginning.

Vote REAL people, who care in.

Fix our elections, by removing the electricity; PERMANENTLY.

Only by fixing this can ANYTHING else get fixed.

All other arguments are CRAP.

[UTUSN]

5. I Did. My Votes Didn't Count. n/t

[Pharaoh]

6. neither did mine

if we can't fix the machines! We were talking about fixing those machines in 2002, and still nothing done!

republican built, no you cannot see the source code,(it's a secret)

:wtf:

[Pharaoh]

7. will MSM pick up this story?not!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1671665