Baby dies when life support removed-how is this different from Schiavo?

[Capn Sunshine]

The baby wore a cute blue outfit with a teddy bear covering his bottom. The 17-pound, 6-month-old boy wiggled with eyes open and smacked his lips, according to his mother.

Then at 2 p.m. today, a medical staffer at Texas Children's Hospital gently removed the breathing tube that had kept Sun Hudson alive since his Sept. 25 birth. Cradled by his mother, he took a few breaths, and died.

"I talked to him, I told him that I loved him. Inside of me, my son is still alive," Wanda Hudson told reporters afterward. "This hospital was considered a miracle hospital. When it came to my son, they gave up in six months .... They made a terrible mistake."
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Where was This child's army of outraged pro-lifers and republican congressmen?

Oh right, no insurance.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

1. No insurance and wrong color

[Pithlet]

3. You got it.

The hypocrisy is astounding.

[hiley]

2. RWnuts don't care

about black or brown people and I think both had Medicaid.
Here is a thread from yesterday about this.
You might want to look at it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3294267#top


:shrug:




http://rantsbyhiley.blogspot.com/

[Capn Sunshine]

4. I'm wondering where the "don't kill Terry" folks are on this

it seems to me to be the same circumstance, with the exception of the age of the victims. How is this different that it got no attention?

[Pithlet]

5. I do think this case is a little different.

In this case, the legal next of kin was against removing life support. But, from the point of view of the don't kill Terry's folks, this case should be just as egregious to them, if not more so. This case has been in the news for awhile, and the mother has been fighting the hospital in the courts for some time. Nary a blip on the self righteous right to life radar.

[Capn Sunshine]

6. That's my point. They don't REALLY care about the victim

They are just driving a huge wedge to distract from the things the bread and circuses can't hide.

[Pithlet]

7. They don't.

And it's disgusting.

[oldcoot]

20. Yes, you are correct

From the perspective of "pro-lifers," this case is worse. According to the article, this is the first time a federal judge has allowed a hospital "to discontinue an infant's life-sustaining care against a parent's wishes." This case obviously establishes a dangerous precedent that should outrage those who truly are pro-life.

[sandnsea]

23. The HOSPITAL DID IT

My god. The court allowed the hospital to remove the breathing tube, over the mother's wishes. It's WORSE than Terri Schiavo.

[hiley]

8. All the people

ranting on and on about Terry Schiavo that I have seen or read about were white. Hannity, Randall Terry, Scarborough, Tom DeLay, Frist and the list goes on and on. (can't forget Dr.Dobson!)
I did see and hear about Sun but not from any of these nuts.
Hypocrisy is what they are all about, if Sun had been a white baby they would be fighting for him.


come visit my blog sometime:http://rantsbyhiley.blogspot.com/

[femme.democratique]

18. Exactly, they all like hypocrites to me!!! Terri = White = RW Propaganda

[TriMetFan]

9. The Baby

could have had a chance of some doctor finding some cure for the kid in the next ten years. All they had to do was keep him a life. But no the Neo-Cons really don't care for the young or people of color, they care about some women that is brain dead. The little boby could have had some kind of life with his family. :mad:

[Pithlet]

10. I don't think that baby had a chance.

I feel so badly for the poor mother. My heart breaks for her. While I think the hospital was right about that baby's chances, and that there was no medical reason to keep that poor baby on life support, I'm not so sure they did the right thing by forcing a disconnect against the next of kin's wishes in this case. I don't know. I'm so torn on this one. This wasn't a case of brain death.

[cornermouse]

11. I wondered if the article actually listed everything that was

wrong with the baby. Guessing that possibly the exceptionally tiny lungs may have caused severe brain damage via lack of adequate oxygen that might not have been obvious at this early stage of life? Or there may have been other unstated problems that were life threatening.

In the end, who's going to pay for their care? The federal government? State government? Insurance companies? Churches? The family?

And how many others would require similar extreme life support? How much per day? Again, who's expected to pay?

[TriMetFan]

12. The chance at life.

The medical field changes so fast that one can't say the kid didn't have a chance. If some one can live on tubes that do the feeding for them, then the baby had a chance. I know all this is what ifs. But I lost a little bother over 20 years ago. When he was born as a preemie his lungs were not mature enough then just 5 months later they came out with better meds. to help babies that where born with lungs that were not mature enough. aka steroids. So if they the Repuks are willing to keep a person that is a veggie a life then how come they were not all over this? Is it because the little boy was not a fetus, I wonder?

[Capn Sunshine]

13. same thing

kept alive by means outside the body of the victim.

[Pithlet]

14. It's not the same thing.

This wasn't a brain deficiency. I'm not against removing life support in this instance, especially if the next of kin agrees to it. I'm just not sure I would have supported forcing it against the wishes of the next of kin. I don't know enough about this particular case to form a definite opinion, here.

[Capn Sunshine]

15. it IS the same thing.

Two bodies that left unassisted , could NOT survive on their own.
At least with the Baby, there is a possiblility that a cure could be discovered.

But it's the same basic thing: neither could live without a support system imposed by medical science.

[Pithlet]

17. My point is

it is possible to rely on life support, but be fully conscious and aware. It happens all the time, in fact. I don't know that this baby had no awareness, the way I'm pretty sure Terri cannot. Because the issue isn't with his brain, at least not that I've seen. It seems to be a lung development issue. While I would understand the hospital and courts pushing the issue over next of kin with a brain dead person, I'm not so sure I agree in cases where it is not brain death, and next of kin are't ready to pull the plug. This baby couldn't speak for himself not because he was brain dead, but because he was a baby.

[sandnsea]

24. The mother said no

What the hell is there to know about it? Either the right-to-lifers respect the wishes of the family and support all life, or they don't. In this case, they don't even give a shit.

[Guaranteed]

16. That is fucking DISGUSTING.

Recommended.

[Greylyn58]

19. I said the same thing Friday night on the KOEB thread

here is what I said:

Why don't the wingnuts get involved with the baby in Texas whose mother wanted his breathing tubes to remain and yet the hospital and a judge removed them.

No one jumped into the fray on that fight. Was it because the mother was Black and Terri is white and there is a difference??

What a bunch of dickweeds!!!!!!

:grr: :grr: :grr:

[Capn Sunshine]

21. Perhaps

the differences in race and social class had a SLIGHT influenec on the right wing culture warriors.

[sandnsea]

22. So have I

Over and over and over.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=581