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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:47 AM
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My email response to a freeper
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 10:55 AM by bearfan454
My email response to him was from an earlier thread from this week.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3294487&mesg_id=3294487&page=

We don't hate anyone either Rick. I am a Vietnam Era Vet myself. I was never in country. I respect you for that. You are right about Iraq being another VietNam. The repukes are famous for war profiteering. Cheney and Halliburton are raiding our US Treasury big time with their no bid contracts. There is over 9 billion dollars missing right now from the Iraq contracts. Cutting Social programs and taking money away from Veterans like yourself and me and giving huge tax breaks to people making over 300,000 a year is wrong. I think we can both agree on that. They are trying to dismantle Social Security right now with these privatized accounts. Even the White House CBO says it will be cuts of up to 40 percent for people. Come on Rick, you know that's not right. We paid into SS our whole life and now they want to destroy the New Deal FDR set up. Iraq never attacked us either. Never. Osama Bin Laden is the bad guy. I agree, let's get him. Let's not steal the oil from Iraq. We invaded a country that never attacked us. That makes bush a war criminal Rick. We have killed over 100,000 innocent Iraqis. A lot of them were women and kids. They didn't do anything to us. I hope you're not one of those people that are blinded by the right. You're not a sheeple are you ? You can think for yourself. You don't have to do what fox news tell you you're supposed to do or think the way they tell you to either. You can have your own mind and speak out if you think someting is wrong. There is nothing more patriotic than dissent.The US flag belongs to everyone Rick, Everyone. We have free speech just like everyone else. We are still protected by the Constitution of the United States of America. It is for All Americans. All. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. Why did we invade the wrong country ? The bushes have business deals set up with the Saudis. We buy oil from them. That is trading with the enemy. All of the people here on DemocraticUnderground love the USA just as much as you. That is why we don't want to see our country destroyed in the name of corporate greed by these ultra right wing neocon facist nazi oil whores. God Bless America and fuck bush too. I'm glad we were able to have this discussion Rick. Thanks.....................Stevo

---- Original Message -----
From: Rickroughneck@XXXXXX
To: bearfan454@XXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: You are famous Rick

This aint hate mail-----I'm just voiceing my opinion of you guys----I know it sucks to have to go back over there if you're married w/kids but if the military wanted you to have a wife---they would of issued you one....
Personally I think Iraq is another Viet Nam-----I have a 100% disabilty from that fiasco PTSD----Yeah,,,,I'm a certified nut case. I dont hate you guys..I just dont like what you are doin....
Who knows you may have good reasons for what you're doin if so I'd like to hear them...I have a guy in my core group at the VA,he was a Medic in Iraq,,,,,It fucked his head up BIG TIME !!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:52 AM
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1. Rick Roughneck isn't very specific
He acknowledges that Iraq is a fiasco on a par with Vietnam, admits that he's pretty screwed up because of his experience in that former case of American imperialism, has friends who are similarly messed up, but he "just dont like what you are doin."

What is it he "just dont like"? The fact that we don't want to screw up another generation of young people on a hopeless, expensive, wasteful (in so many ways) invasion?

You gave him a nice, measured response, Stevo.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 10:54 AM
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2. Thanks.
If you explain it to a lot of them they can kind of understand it or at least start to. If he has to pay the 250 a year TAX to belong to the VA he might wake up.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:04 AM
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3. hi Stevo!!! how you been? n/t
:hi:
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canuckforpeace Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:10 AM
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4. Good response! n/t
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 11:11 AM
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5. You've got a great command of the facts!
I'm sure you gave him a lot to chew on. Hope he comes around. Well done!
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:14 PM
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6. Rickroughneck is starting to see the light I believe
Edited on Sat Mar-19-05 02:15 PM by bearfan454
They are dying for oil. You're right. How many bodies per gallon are we getting this week is what they should say.


----- Original Message -----
From: Rickroughneck@XXXXXXm
To: bearfan454@XXXXXXXXXXXX
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: You are famous Rick

I never did trust them politicians None of them on either side......you dont want to know what i really think as it would not be a good thing to talk about------I think we ought to pull all our troops out an let them kill each other off----I thin our young American boys are diein for oil
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