Answered questions for a friend's security clearance and so had to

[efhmc]

bite my tongue when asked, "if he was loyal to the US?" Of course, I said yes but I SOOOO wanted to ask just exactly what the definition of "loyal" was. My friend is a verrrry Liberal Democrat, who has worked for and had high security before. Why do they even have to do this again? Plus if being loyal to the US means being loyal to the nutty bush administration, then my true and honest answer would have been "NO!!!!!" I was not going to harm my friend's chances for whatever he was applying for but the whole thing made me nauseous! I know this friend and he would tell me to answer whatever I thought was right. EEEEEEEK.

[JDPriestly]

1. I'm loyal to the internet just like I'm loyal to my family.

I'll tell them when I think their wrong, and I won't mince words when I do it. But, I'll fight for who they are and their right to be themselves down to the last millimeter of me.

[efhmc]

4. So, if faced with a dead-pan human who was looking for "the facts" on

a friend, who is looking for a job, what would you do? I felt like I was being interviewed by a polite Gestapo.

Edited to add, of course there is no such thing as a polite gestapo. That is demeaning to the millions who lost their lived to those fiends.

[JDPriestly]

8. I would have done just what you did.

Suppressed my urge to laugh and told the truth. Several of the people who have betrayed and spied on the U.S. obviously passed "loyalty" investigations. Who knows? They may have had extremely right wing opinions, but when offered money or something else they wanted in exchange for information, they betrayed us. They lacked integrity, which is not a matter of political opinion, but of character. The dead-pan was asking the wrong question. He should have asked whether you thought your friend had the courage and integrity to say "No" to someone attempting to blackmail or bribe him/her. What idiots.

[JDPriestly]

19. Correction

I'm loyal to the U.S. like I'm loyal to my family. I don't know how the word internet got into the title. Sorry.

[sendero]

2. To me...

... being "loyal" means not doing something that helps another country against your own.

As mad at American I sometimes get, I'm not about to offer assistance to its enemies, hence I am loyal.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. You get funny with that guy, and the next thing is they are

going around asking questions about YOU. You did the right thing by keeping it simple.

[Nay]

20. Yep, no getting funny with those guys. They have NO sense of

humor. Just keep it straight and to the point. Been through a couple of those interviews, and it's best if you have a 'just the facts' attitude.

[Enquiringkitty]

5. I have to get a security clearance at every work site I go to and

they want to know if your friend cares about the survival of this country and it's people. It sounds to me like he cares very much.

Repugs come and go....Bush came and he will go....America will be here long after they are gone...is that his wish? If yes, then you answered true.

[efhmc]

6. Well, I know that my friend cares very passionately about this country.

But does that means he is "loyal" to it?

[Flammable Materials]

7. "If I wasn't loyal to this country, I'd be a Republican." n/t

[efhmc]

11. True, then you would just be loyal to bush.

[FtWayneBlue]

9. I strongly believe all honest DUers are loyal to their country

at all times. To their government only when it deserves it. Right?

[efhmc]

10. Well, there you go. the difference is in the word country, not government.

I was also asked if this person would ever engage in any illegal activity and I told the interviewer that he would be much more likely to turn in anyone engaged in illegal activity than engage in it and that is the hard truth. My friend is VERY upright and honest.

[Dude_CalmDown]

12. Saying "Fuck Bush" is the only way to prove loyalty to this country - n/t

*

[efhmc]

13. Okay, that works for you, how how about for another person?

[seabeyond]

14. if all arent pretty grossed out a question would be are you loyal

to u.s. are we living in russia. i went to whataburger yesterday, two posters on window red white and blue one said one nation under god. infront on the bus bench red white and blue telling me to vote, like my vote fuckin counts as votes are stolen. i felt i was in ussr...........and now to be asked, by anyone, for any reason let alone a job, are you loyal to u.s. that is a fucked question, period, for any reason, for anyone to ask

[efhmc]

15. I agree 1000% and that is why I asked the question. I do not think the

government should even have the RIGHT to ask these questions but since they do and I was asked and it was obviously important to my friends, I answered the question in what was, to them, a positive manner. I think it is a worthless question and tells absolutely nothing about a person's worth and character.

[seabeyond]

16. that is why it is so gross

it tells you nothing, people are going to say yes,.........the whole purpose of it is abuse, is a conditioning is a fuckin with your brain kinda question. it is total abuse.

what job was this. this should be said out loud that people are being asked this. people should once again be outraged. it is gosh, the developing of hilterism, and i specifically say hitlerism adn not nazi ism

[Cleita]

17. Of course he's loyal to the USA. If he's not loyal to Bush, this has

nothing to do with it. One should never be loyal to the person who has stolen the throne, and one never has an obligation to out their patriotic friends. We, who know our government has been co-opted, are the real patriots. There is no need to aid the OTHERS.

[dsc]

18. They redo security clearences every so often in hopes of

catching spies. It really is a good thing to do in case people develop drinking, gambling or other problems.