Flu 'Oddities

[Lisabtrucking]

Could our government be trying to find ways to kill us off?
Very interesting study here.

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Flu 'Oddities'

Military intelligence warns that avian flu could be used as weapon: report -- The military's intelligence arm has warned the federal government that avian influenza could be used as a weapon of bio terrorism, a heavily censored report suggests.



http://legitgov.org/flu_oddities.html


Author airs conspiracy theory on Im's death --Someone stabbed 72-year-old retired research Professor Jeong Im multiple times in the Maryland Avenue parking garage at the University of Missouri-Columbia, put him in the trunk of his Honda and set the car on fire. A national radio talk-show guest has theorized the killing was part of a plot to kill off key microbiologists in the world before unleashing "the ultimate epidemic." Steve Quayle, a self-published author and newsletter writer from Bozeman, Mont., told listeners of "Coast to Coast AM" that Im was the 40th microbiologist to die under suspicious circumstances in four years and was perhaps among those specializing in vaccines and bio-weapons research

sorry had to add this on edit.

[Warpy]

1. The military mind sees everything as a potential weapon

which is why they always should be controlled by civilians, as the constitution states.

[BrklynLiberal]

2. If you really want to see some stuff that will rattle your tinfoil hat,

check out this site.

The mysterious deaths of top microbiologists
The pattern became obvious with Don Wiley.

On November 15th, 2001 Harvard Professor Don Wiley left a gathering of friends and colleagues some time after 10:30 PM. The next morning, Memphis police found his rental car stopped on a bridge, with a full tank of gas and keys still in the ignition. There was no financial or family trouble. Indeed Wiley was supposed to meet his family at the Memphis airport to continue on to an Icelandic vacation. Neither was there any history of depression or mental illness.

In the report printed in the New York Times on November 27th, the FBI's Memphis office distanced itself from the case saying that the available facts did not add up to a suspicion of foul play. I guess at the FBI it's a perfectly everyday occurrence for a Harvard Professor to stop his rental car on a bridge in the middle of the night before he is supposed to leave for Iceland and just walk away into the Tennessee dark.

The NYT report of November 27th also downplayed Professor Wiley's expertise in virology, quoting Gregory Verdine, a professor of chemical biology at Harvard, said, "If bioterrorists were to abduct Don Wiley, they'd be very disappointed," because his research was in studying the component parts of viruses, and "that doesn't really help you make a more dangerous version of the virus."

But this statement is not consistent with the facts of Professor Wiley's full range of knowledge. Wiley has, in conjunction with another Harvard Professor, Dr. Jack Strominger, won several academic prizes for their work in immunology, including a Lasker prize. Don Wiley is a Harvard professor, but he is also a researcher at the Howard Hughes Medical Institute, and the National Institute of Health. The Howard Hughes Medical Institute is located in Chevy Chase, Maryland, and performs biological research, sometimes jointly funded by the Department of Defense and the NIH. Don Wiley's peers at Harvard include professors such as John Collier performing research on Anthrax.

So, contrary to the dismissive tone of the New York Times report, Professor Wiley would be of great value to anyone developing biological weapons. This makes the FBI's obvious disinterest in the case highly questionable, indeed reminiscent of the FBI's obvious disinterest in the numerous witnesses in Oklahoma City who had seen Tim McVeigh in the company of additional perpetrators not to mention the witnesses who had seen additional bombs.
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lots more.........
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/deadbiologists.html

also check out

Dead Scientists And Microbiologists - Master List
Compiled by Mark J. Harper
http://rense.com/general62/list.htm

[Lisabtrucking]

5. I already know about this, and that is why I posted this form, if you

read the web site you will see it talks about the scientists.

The reporters committing suicide is another one of those story's that need to be investigated by someone other then our courts and government agency's we have now.

[Lisabtrucking]

6. By the way, Thanks for the web site's. Very interesting. n/t

[mermaid]

3. Could They Be?? Wouldn't Put It Past 'Em!!

Just look at Stephen L. Johnson, and the testing of pesticides on poor, black children.

I just know a bunch of these Republican assholes would LOVE to have their own Holocaust, if only they thought they could get away with it!

[mermaid]

4. Could They Be?? Wouldn't Put It Past 'Em!!

Just look at Stephen L. Johnson, and the testing of pesticides on poor, black children.

I just know a bunch of these Republican assholes would LOVE to have their own Holocaust, if only they thought they could get away with it!

[Ian David]

8. Don't forget The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment on Black soldiers

There's the retarded children who were fed radioactive oatmeal.

There was some other experiments done in Brooklyn lately.

There was the one where they secretly gave LSD to scientists.

There were "The Atomic Soldiers" experiments on our own troops.

And there were also "The Downwinders," who were civilians deliberately exposed to fall-out from nuclear tests.

I'm pretty sure all of those were real, but feel free to inform me otherwise if I'm wrong.

[kk897]

18. Then there was the...

bizarre and horrific experiment in Canada that the US Government partially funded (as well as probably providing scientific assistance or more) where they kept people essentially asleep for months at a time. I wish I could remember more about it, but I know there was a documentary and the Canadian government admitted the whole thing. Guess maybe MinstrelBoy would know more about that, though.

[kk897]

19. Ah, here it is, but I wish it wasn't.

Links to references are live at this site: http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol10pg

The MKULTRA contractor about whom the most has been written is Dr. Ewen Cameron.<31><32><33><34><35> At various times, Dr. Cameron was President of the American, Canadian, and World Psychiatric Associations. He was one of four co-founders of the World Psychiatric Association. Dr. Cameron began conducting unethical, unscientific, and inhumane brainwashing experiments in the 1930’s. Schizophrenic patients were forced to lie naked in red light for eight hours a day for periods as long as eight months. Another experiment involved overheating patients in an electric cage until their body temperatures reached 102 degrees. BB 125-128 From January 1957 until September 1960, Dr. Cameron’s project received $64,242.44 in CIA funds.<36> When the CIA stopped funding him, Cameron received $57,750 from the Canadian government to continue his research from 1961 to 1964.<37> The actual number of patients<38> on whom Cameron tried varieties of his experimental techniques is reported as 332. NB 52, 53

Linda MacDonald was a victim of Dr. Ewen Cameron’s unethical, destructive mind control experiments in 1963. Dr. Cameron used a “treatment” which involved intensive application of three brainwashing techniques; drug disinhibition, prolonged sleep, and prolonged psychological isolation. These were combined with ECT treatments.<39><40><41> The amount of electricity introduced into Linda’s brain exceeded by 76.5 times the maximum amount recommended in the ECT Guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association. Dr. Cameron’s “depattering” technique resulted in permanent and complete amnesia. Dr. Cameron proved that doctors skilled in the right procedures can erase a subject’s memory. To this day, Linda MacDonald is unable to remember anything from her birth to 1963. As recorded by nurses in her chart, Linda was completely disoriented. She didn’t know her name, age or where she was. She didn’t recognize her children. She couldn’t read, drive, cook, or use a toilet. Not only did she not know her husband, she didn’t even know what a husband was. BB 181-183

Life changed for Linda when the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation program, The Fifth Estate, aired a segment on Dr. Cameron on January 17, 1984. A Vancouver newspaper ran a full-page story on Robert Loggie, a Vancouver man who had been experimented on by Dr. Cameron. Loggie was a plaintiff in the class action suit against the CIA for Dr. Cameron’s MKULTRA experiments, which was settled out of court for $750,000, divided among the eight plaintiffs in 1988.<42> Eventually Linda got $100,000 plus legal fees from the Canadian government. BB 187, 188

[Ian David]

21. Oh! Now I know where THIS comes from!

Star Trek
DAGGER OF THE MIND
GUEST STARS...
Morgan Woodward, James Gregory



<snip>
SYNOPSIS...
A crazed man beams up to the Enterprise, which is in orbit around the Federation's Tantalus prison planet. He babbles insanely, then dies.

Captain Kirk and shrink Helen Noel beam down to the penal colony to investigate. Before long, Kirk finds himself a prisoner of the colony, as a result of Dr. Tristan Adams' evil plan. Adams tries to destroy Kirk's mind with a neural neutralizer



Spock and others beam down to Tantalus. Dr. Adams is killed by his own neural neutralizer when it is turned on him. Order is restored at the penal colony, and the neural neutralizer is destroyed. Kirk and the Enterprise split.



More:
http://www.homevideos.com/startreks/st41.htm


Also:
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php/Dagger_of_the_Mind

http://www.reelcriticism.com/ziggyrealm/televideo/startrek_dagger.html


Video Preview:
http://www.starfleetlibrary.com/members/tos/video/tos01101.mov

The Tantalus Penal Colony was a Federation prison and hospital in the late 23rd century, located on Tantalus V. Violent criminals were imprisoned there for rehabilitation.

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In 2266, Tantalus initially benefited from the leadership of Dr. Tristan Adams, whose theories on penology had revolutionized such facilities, transforming them from cages into "decent, clean hospitals for sick minds". Late in 2266, when Dr. Simon Van Gelder escaped from Tantalus, it was revealed that Adams had been conducting unauthorized and highly unethical experiments on patients and staff alike, subjecting them to an experimental therapy device, the neural neutralizer, in an attempt to learn more about such therapy. Ironically, Adams was killed by the neural neutralizer when an experiment he was conducting on Captain Kirk went awry, and Kirk escaped. After Adams' death, Van Gelder assumed leadership of the facility.

Individuals imprisoned on Tantalus were those generally deemed curable; the incurably insane of the galaxy were imprisoned on the Elba II colony. (TOS: "Dagger of the Mind")

More:
http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Tantalus_Penal_Colony

[OneBlueSky]

7. didn't the PNAC (or one of the documents that preceded it) call for . . .

a dramatic reduction in world population? . . . I know I saw that somewhere, but can't put my finger on it . . . I'll keep looking, but if anyone recalls this, please post it . . .

[Lisabtrucking]

10. I think this may be what you were talking about?

http://pilger.carlton.com/print/124759

[OneBlueSky]

11. well, that's helpful, but there was something else more specific . . .

as I recall, that included actual numbers (i.e. the Earth's population should ideally be around _____) . . . I'll find it eventually . . .

[Must_B_Free]

9. No - it's just a coincidence that AIDS and Ebola are devistating Africa

:eyes:

[undergroundpanther]

12. Hmm

Consider this also

The fact that most people in the richest country in the world have NO insurance and if they have a medical devistation now they can't claim bankruptcy..
If they don't kill you they will rob you blind and enslave you.

Fuck bush.

[undergroundpanther]

13. kick

[Ian David]

14. And they're cutting other safety nets and increasing faith-based funding..

for organizations that are now allowed to discriminate against you even though the accept federal funds.

Soon, your only "safety net" will be faith-based organizations that require you to denounce your god and pledge allegiance to Bush's god. To prove your loyalty you'll need a mark on your head and on your hand in order to receive food or to do commerce.

[mermaid]

15. That Mark

you are talking about is the mark of the Beast, spoken of in Revelation.
They can kill me before they will put that mark on ME!!! And they can kill me before I will swear loyalty to a man I find repugnant...like Bush.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. Eerily great picture....

[Lisabtrucking]

16. Makes you wonder did we really run out of flu vaccines? I for one

thinks this government knew the problem with the flu vaccines and did nothing about it hoping some old and ill would die a little early.
I know it sounds like I think this government is pure evil, and if you thought that your right. }(

[Ian David]

20. Clinton had a vaccine program that Bush canceled

Clinton started a program to insure vaccine manufacturers against financial loss if they over-produced flu vaccines.

Bush canceled that program, and the companies cut back on production.

Please let all your Republican associates know that the three big flu vaccine manufacturers all support the homosexual agenda by providing same-sex partner benefits. Republicans should boycott the flu vaccine if they want to stop people from having sex with box turtles.

[undergroundpanther]

22. Made enough for the"elites"

The rest of us who can't afford it are screwed than.