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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:44 AM
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BBV: Another interesting article -- have we seen this?
It's undated, and I think there are critics of AFP, but I thought this was an especially interesting article:

http://www.americanfreepress.net/08_25_03/Concerns_Over/concerns_over.html
Concerns Over ‘Serious Flaws’ in Electronic Voting Prompt New Examination by Members of Congress

A recently published study documenting a host of security flaws in a leading touch-screen voting system has caused elections officials across the United States to question the use of electronic voting machines.

Exclusive to American Free Press
By Christopher Bollyn

snip

Although voting machines were not on the agenda for the National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS), the release of the Hopkins report prior to their late July conference in Portland, Me., forced a change. The conference discussed whether the National Institute of Standards and Technology should be asked to establish new standards for computerized voting machines.

“There is a sense that in the past were part of the black box crowd and conspiracy theorists,” Kay Albowicz, a representative for NASS said. “No one is saying that now

snip (lotta good info, incl new quotes from Hopkins team, Doug Jones, and then Dill on Williams:)

“Unfortunately, he’s wrong. The report is generally valid,” said David L. Dill, computer scientist at Stanford University and member of the California Secretary of State’s Ad Hoc Touch Screen Task Force. “It’s been obvious that can be hacked, and Aviel shows that they can be hacked. They’ve blown up all the arguments that the present machines are OK.

“If the Virginia State Board of elections were really worried about being burned in effigy, it would have been prudent to seek a broader range of advice,” he said.

Dill identified the unnamed consultant as Brit Williams, the Georgia-based voting machine technologist at Kennesaw State University, who was instrumental in bringing the Diebold touch-screen voting to Georgia. Williams was a consultant to the Federal Election Commission during the development of the FEC Voting System Standards in 1990 and 2002. He also chairs the National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) Voting Systems Board Technical Committee and consults for several states, including Virginia.

Iowa professor Jones told AFP that Williams is “heavily invested in the process” of introducing touch-screen voting systems across the United States. Williams was “installed” in a key position at the Institute of Electrical and Electronic Engineers, Inc., which has been “setting standards for many years,” from which he advised the FEC on electronic voting systems, Jones said.

“Williams believes that he can detect malicious code in voting machines by testing them,” Dill said. “I think he’s on the defensive because he was so involved in the deployment of Diebold’s machines in Georgia.”

(snip)

SAIC is working with Diversified Dynamics of Glen Allen, Va., in the development of a voting system known as the System 5 DVRS.

MUCH more (and here's something hopeful:)

A Palm Desert, Calif., woman, Susan Marie Weber, is suing the state over the use of unverifiable voting machines. “They’re not allowing us to verify our votes,” Weber said in WN.


MUCH more. Do read.


Eloriel





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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:03 PM
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1. Oh my goodness, E ....
How did we miss this????
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:06 PM
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2. "part of the Black Box Crowd"
They seem to be lumping Bev in with the wack jobs.....they are SCARED. The implausibility on its face of conspiracy of this nature is why I think it has stayed out of te main stream until recently.
This is better than the X Files! It's real life imitating art!
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:06 PM
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3. I saw that issue in my town library
I thought that it was at least encouraging to have the anti-New-World-Order crowd informed. I was perusing an issue a few months back and somehow determined that AFP was linked to the David Duke Klan organization. When I read this last issue, I could not find evidence of that, however. Is that what you were referring to about "critics of AFP"?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:34 PM
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9. "White Nationalist" publication
http://www.newcomm.org/bdi/MAR/2001/mar0701.htm

SPOTLIGHT SHUTS DOWN, RE-OPENS UNDER NEW NAME: The Spotlight, published every week since 1974, has ceased publication. Its last issue was dated July 10th. The Spotlight’s parent organization, the Liberty Lobby, defaulted on bankruptcy payments to the Institute for Historical Review, the California-based Holocaust denial outfit, earlier this year. Court stays ran out on July 5, and on July 6 the Liberty Lobby closed its doors for good. Office equipment and other assets will be liquidated to settle the millions of dollars owed to the IHR.

Liberty Lobby head Willis Carto is already preparing the launch of a new newspaper, named The American Free Press. Just 12 blocks down from the old Liberty Lobby headquarters, Carto has opened a new office for teh publication at 1433 Pennsylvania Avenue SE.
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:09 PM
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4. Susan Marie Webber
is the Libertarian candidate in California who sued there.

The first judge told her that the "convenience of electronic voting was more important than the security of the votes." She has it on appeal.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:12 PM
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5. Convenience more important than security??!!!
If that is the mindset you are dealing with then I am truly afraid.
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:16 PM
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7. Be afraid, be very afraid
Because this is absolutely what we are dealing with.

Suffice it to say, new evidence has become available to Susan Marie Webber since her first hearing.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:27 PM
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8. Hell, if convenience trumps security, why not hold elections via
online polls on FAUX and CNN. It's so damned inconvenient to travel to my voting place.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 07:22 PM
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12. Wunder if that judge...
...would say the same thing about his money? So the ATM loses some of yer dollars, itz more convient, right? Waddu @$$.
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 09:53 PM
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13. I'll bet he'd change his tune real fast....
....if his bank only gave him $80 for every $100 he withdrew!

:kick:
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ParanoidPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:16 PM
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6. Thanks Eloriel!
Somehow I missed that one in all of my Google searches. :evilgrin:
"There is a sense that in the past were part of the black box crowd and conspiracy theorists," Kay Albowicz, a representative for NASS said. "No one is saying that now" :)

Well almost no one! ;-)
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DEMActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 04:31 PM
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10. Bounce
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Vadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 06:36 PM
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11. kick
:kick:
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never cry wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 10:42 PM
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14. You probably already noticed
the date 8/25/03 in the link. But I wanted an excuse to :kick:
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