anyone just feel a rumbling in florida??

[carpediem]

no idea what it is, but there was a low rumble sound and our house shook and windows rattled anyone else feel it??

on edit - there was no airplane going overhead or helicopters either
also called family an hour away and they felt it too.

[RoeBear]

Uhmmmm...........

....did you check with some one in your neighborhood?
It would seem a more likely place to get an answer.

[carpediem]

6. yes, we all went out and looked for what might have caused it

it was weird. noone knows what it was.

[madfloridian]

1. Where are you?

.

[carpediem]

5. near tampa and the relatives we called are in sarasota

the whole neighborhood was just outside talking about it noone know what it was

[SW FL Dem]

45. We get them every once in a while here in Naples

I've been told they are due to military exercises, no details though

[lonestarnot]

2. Tsunami! n/t

[woodsprite]

3. Jeb just let a big f@rt! n/t

[carpediem]

7. LOL n/t

.

[lonestarnot]

20. Jebb shit! Tsunami! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE! n/t

[XemaSab]

4. No quake

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/

Holy smokes! 5'er outside Montreal?!?!?!?!

[welshTerrier2]

11. some felt it in Boston

iirc, it happened around 5 in the morning ... some people in the Boston area felt the quake ...

[carpediem]

33. it just showed up on that map

however on the news they say they are trying to find out if a sonic boom could cause a register of seismic activity. 2.7.

[soup]

51. from the above link:

Recent Earthquake Activity in the USA

Magnitude 2.7 - FLORIDA PENINSULA
2005 March 12 00:41:55 UTC
Preliminary Earthquake Report
U.S. Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center
World Data Center for Seismology, Denver

A micro earthquake occurred at 00:41:55 (UTC) on Saturday, March 12, 2005. The magnitude 2.7 event has been located in FLORIDA PENINSULA. (This event has been reviewed by a seismologist.)

Small globe showing earthquake

Small map showing earthquake




Magnitude 2.7
Date-Time Saturday, March 12, 2005 at 00:41:55 (UTC)
= Coordinated Universal Time
Friday, March 11, 2005 at 7:41:55 PM
= local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 27.950°N, 82.460°W
Depth 5 km (3.1 miles) set by location program
Region FLORIDA PENINSULA
Distances 2 km (2 miles) S (169°) from Tampa, FL
8 km (5 miles) WNW (287°) from Palm River-Clair Mel, FL
9 km (5 miles) SSE (147°) from Egypt Lake-Leto, FL
327 km (203 miles) NW (318°) from Miami, FL
Location Uncertainty Error estimate not available
Parameters Nst= 1, Nph= 1, Dmin=102.5 km, Rmss=0 sec, Gp= 0,
M-type="Nuttli" surface wave magnitude (MLg), Version=8
Source Macroseismic location
Event ID usvnab
Felt Reports Sonic boom felt from Clearwater to Tampa.

[LeftyLizzie]

8. Yep . . .

And I'm in Tampa. It was kinda scary, anyone know what it was?

[carpediem]

14. they just said on the news it was

2 f-18's flying in formation creating a sonic boom

[skids]

9. MOAB test? n/t

[MnFats]

10. might want to head inland...offshore quake?

i'd keep checking around but i just might get ready to haul ass toward high ground.

course I'm in Minnesota, where we only have blizzards and tornadoes, sometimes withina week of each other, so maybe i'm just being paranoid.

[carpediem]

12. breaking news --f-18's flying too low

sonic boom from f-18's flying too low and too fast

[LeftyLizzie]

15. That's what I'm hearing, too. n/t

[MnFats]

16. I would like to know who's responsible for that...

and why it happened.
it's not like they're flying over new territory.
some kind of terror training drill??
or just trying to break some windows...

[carpediem]

21. I agree. On the news they were saying someone was going to be

in big trouble when they land. According to reports it was 2 planes.

[Name removed]

23. Deleted message

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[MnFats]

32. Wow. I guess you showed me! "Chill the Fuck out." Nice.

just goofin' around.
why don't YOU chill the fuck out.
Oh, I forgot....you surely know.
Sorry. I takeit all back.

[madfloridian]

34. That was an ugly thing to say.

They would tell us it was a sonic boom even if it were not. We have had them before in Central Florida....they will never say a bomb landed in the wrong place or anything like that.

This may have been a boom, but they would say so even if not.

[FreedomAngel82]

53. We have them sometime here

in Tn. :shrug: Haven't in a while but I remember the first time we had a big boom it scared the daylights out of me.

[lonestarnot]

22. homeland security testing the waters for when we get too out of hand n/t

[Pithy Cherub]

13. What is local radio saying?

[BigBearJohn]

17. THE SOUND OF *'S SOC.SECURITY PLAN CRASHING TO THE FLOOR

[Lisabtrucking]

18. I keep hearing whirling sounds, like the world is spinning like a top.

can't figure it out, but I can hear it all the time. I wonder if your not hearing the bombing they were suppose to do in Polk county "I think"

[lonestarnot]

25. You in a poke? n/t

[Name removed]

19. Deleted message

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[madfloridian]

24. Look up my posts about Avon Park...they dropped very quickly.

I have posted several which have been ignored loudly. They are turning Avon Park in Highlands and in parts of Polk in another Vieques.

There will be Hellfire missiles incoming, more 2000 bombs.

[Lisabtrucking]

27. I live in Tampa also, Lets hold a protest in Ybor on the 19th. I'll be

out protesting that day. It's the world day of protest. I just haven't figured what corner in Ybor yet.
edit to put a web site about the world protest
http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=2688

http://stpeteforpeace.org/march19.html

[carpediem]

28. I just did a quick search for avon park and couldn't find

any posts - is there another search term I could use?

[madfloridian]

30. I will see if I can find it in the archives.

.

[madfloridian]

37. They already do a lot of bombing there, but it will be greatly increasing.

Here is a google page with some articles.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=%22avon+park%22+bombing&btnG=Search+News

Note the use of live ammunition.

[carpediem]

39. that is frightening.

I didn't know this was going on. I guess it explains the military flight traffic we hear all the time. - we live south of brandon. I am going to look up more about it thanks for the info.

[Lisabtrucking]

40. hi neighbor, glad to see Tampa people here. n/t

[carpediem]

56. I hear you. I feel very isolated here. very red area

we are near brandon.

[kittenpants]

60. I'm in Palm Harbor, so a little more blue close by!

[carpediem]

70. hi - good to know there are others around here. n/t

.

[Lisabtrucking]

62. My mom lives in Brandon, I called and complained about all the

bush signs in the median during the election, and they wouldn't do anything about it, even though it was illegal. There are Lefty's here. I went to my first democracy meeting last week really nice to see others like myself in this area. You wouldn't know it the way these re pugs try and overtake everything, but were here.

[carpediem]

72. it was awful around election time. I have never seen so many

bumper stickers - my kids would sit in the car yelling boo *! and come home from school reporting that in their mock elections they were one of only 1 or 2 that support Kerry - I felt bad for them it is always so much easier to be in the majority. but they handled it well and never swayed. As a matter of fact my kindergartner was asked why she didn't like * and she said b/c he's a liar. it was really funny.

[Lisabtrucking]

74. My children are a little older 16 and 13, my son made me proud,

he learned the facts "because of course his mom was working for the Kerry campaign" and he spread the truth at his high school, which of course was mostly re pugs, but he held strong and made good points when needed. He got all his friends to see the light and one parent kicked him out of her house because of it. I love talking about how bad things have gone in America since bush was elected, it just kills them.

[carpediem]

78. good for him.

It is good to hear of young people who are standing up for what is right.

[Stop_the_War]

43. Does Jacksonville have any significance in this?

It has a naval base after all.

[madfloridian]

44. I have more research on this....going on since WWII.

Like the chemical warfare tests and the chemicals stored God knows where in Florida....it is a well-kept secret.

I need to look up my research on this.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

26. Florida shakes

I'm in Sarasota and thought I was going nuts. The windows shook and the dogs got all riled up.

[kittenpants]

29. I felt it just north of Tampa too.

all the fundies will be disappointed to find out it's not the rapture

[madfloridian]

31. Here is one of them, carpediem.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3190139


You may want to repost. It is scary to me, it really is.

[carpediem]

41. thank you for posting this. I replied above

I am going to be educating myself about this.

[Stop_the_War]

35. Oh fuck...is this a tsunami or just an earthquake?

I live in Florida too. I didn't feel it though.

[T Town Jake]

36. FOLKS! Chill the fuck out!...

..."sonic booms" are NO-BIG-DEAL. They're prohibited below a given altitude, of course, but sometimes they're hard on the margin to avoid (acceleration-in-descent conditions; air pressure; relative humidity; indicated air speed; altimeter variations).
So somebody hit Mach 1 below the deck: the FAA and the Navy/Air Force will figure it out soon enough, if they already haven't.
There's NO :tinfoilhat: conspiracy here: CHILL OUT.

[madfloridian]

38. I think you should take your own advice.

They are bombing the hell out of Florida, and most don't know it. Many don't care, praise our dear president....and the rest of us are very worried.

Cool off.

[T Town Jake]

42. They're not "bombing the hell out of Florida"...

...those are legitimate strike ranges, well removed from civilian areas, and have been FOR YEARS. Period.

[madfloridian]

47. Since WWII. Legitimate yes,, but also very questionable.

I once lived in the Avon Park area, and I know the people there love their military. They do not tell them all the hazards.

They are turning Florida into Vieques, and they have slipped and admitted it. Opie the red-haired Putnam from District 12 has pushed this very hard.

Don't lecture me that bombing ranges with live ammo are fine. Florida does not have a lot underground. It can not long survive the larger bombs they are starting to drop.

The people of Vieques had it right. They ran us out.

[T Town Jake]

58. Please stop...

...I don't want to flame back and forth with you; I just happen to know something about this subject (both the flight/sonic boom angle and the ranges in Florida aspect), and disagree with both the hysteria over what appears to be a simple error in altitude on the part of a couple of flyboys and your take on the safety of the strike areas which are WELL-REMOVED from any civilian areas, and have been for almost sixty-three years.

That's all. Peace.

[kittenpants]

63. T Town Jake

I'm not trying to flame, but would a sonic boom cause seismic activity?

[T Town Jake]

68. As a rule, no...

...anytime you pilot an object beyond 612 mph (at sea level) a wave front that creates a "boom" is going to be projected, and below a certain altitude, well, it's going to "sound" like all hell's broken loose. That's why airspeed is strictly regulated according to altitude.
Seismology, it's not--the two are utterly unrelated.

[kittenpants]

69. then it probably wasn't a sonic boom... thanks for the info!

[madfloridian]

71. I have no hysteria. I have anger.

I did not hear the boom tonight, I have not seen local news tonight. I do not think the Avon Park deal is anywhere near as harmless as you seem to think.

Do not tell me to stop hysteria when I have none. You are the one who started being rude to someone else. I stepped and said something.

I know where the bombing range is, also the one in Ocala National forest. I know most Floridians love their bombing ranges. I don't have to approve.

[T Town Jake]

75. "Rude" my ass...

...you just WANTED to "stepped" (Sic) in, so you did. At least be honest about your motives.

As for the rest: those ranges are as advertised, trust me. Ordnance/target ranges. Nothing more, nothing less. And so far removed from human habitation as to make them literally deserted. Period.

[madfloridian]

76. Not really. I took up for the person above. You are really mad.

Avon Park is not all sweetness and light. I do not see why you need to get this way with me about it.

No, it is NOT that far removed from humans.

[T Town Jake]

77. Nevermind...

...

On edit: nevermind. Peace.

[kittenpants]

49. Do sonic booms usually create seismic activity?

If those reports are true, I just wondered if a sonic boom could really be the cause.

[carpediem]

52. see the map

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/US2/27.29.-83.-81.html

shows seismic activity of 2+ (hearing 2.7 on news) in tampa.

[kittenpants]

57. thanks for the source, carpe

[carpediem]

67. I got it from post 4 above

I have to give credit where it is due. When I originally asked about rumbling there was nothing on the map - it showed up on the map about 1/2 hour later.

[kittenpants]

50. d'oh, dupe

[MnFats]

80. With apologies to Ronald Reagan...

...there you go again...

[OrlandoGator]

46. No rumbles here in Orlando.

n/t

[Lisabtrucking]

48. Something to think about.

<>

[carpediem]

54. I think we will be there. (my family and myself that is) n/t

.

[Lisabtrucking]

65. I'll be there if I can't find anyone to hold a protest in Ybor. I'll have

a Du sign some where.

[slutticus]

55. 2.7 TAMPA

Man! That must have been one hell of a sonic boom.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Quakes/usvnab.htm

It shows up as a 2.7 earthquake on the USGS website.

Was it just one boom or was it several?

[carpediem]

59. it was a low loud rumbling that went on for about 15-20 seconds

the windows made cracking shaking sounds I didn't hear a 'boom' but I have never heard a sonic boom before (only 2 years in FL) and never felt an earthquake before so i have no point of reference.

[Eloriel]

81. That's an amazing report for a very, very small earthquake

Normally, I don't think a 2.7 earthquake would be all that noticeable EXCEPT to the seismologists looking at output. Must be a function of your geology. Fascinating.

And what are ya'll doin' having an earthquake in FLORIDA of all places anyway? :evilgrin:

Seriously, is there a faultline down there somewhere? News to me (not that I'm all that well informed on such subjects).

[HeeBGBz]

86. We used to have sonic booms all the time when I was a kid

Used to scare the crap outa me. However I never remembered an extended lengthy boom. It was always Boom-BOOM and then it was done in a matter of seconds.

[The Backlash Cometh]

61. Wasn't Bush suppose to be in Sarasota this week?

[kittenpants]

66. yes, but I forget why he cancelled...

[Stop_the_War]

64. here's the map that shows the seismic activity

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/recenteqsUS/Maps/US10/22.32.-90.-80.html

[ultraist]

73. Yes, but was it an earthquake or sonic boom that shook the earth?

What the FUCK was it? We have been seeing LOTS of those black military helicopters in NC lately. MORE than usual.

[B Calm]

79. Relax, its Jeb and his girlfriend Harris having sex.

[soup]

82. Sonic booms shake up area

Thought I'd add local news articles to the thread:

Navy jets arriving at MacDill break the sound barrier and shatter the quiet of a Friday evening.

By GRAHAM BRINK and SAUNDRA AMRHEIN
Published March 12, 2005

>snip<
The two Navy F-18 Hornets arrived from a naval air station in Pensacola and landed about 8 p.m., said Air Force 2nd Lt. Larry Vanderoord, spokesman for MacDill Air Force Base. He called their arrival a "routine landing" and said these planes usually fly faster and lower than typical planes landing at MacDill.

The jets, based out of California, were scheduled to take off again today or Sunday.
>snip<

The shaking registered on the U.S. Geological Survey seismograph in Orlando, measuring 2.7 on the Richter Scale, the equivalent of a weak earthquake. Central Florida is not an active earthquake area, said USGS duty officer Madeleine Zirbes.

"They did see it register," Zirbes said from Denver, Colo. "They thought immediately that it could be a sonic boom."
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/12/Tampabay/Sonic_booms_shake_up_.shtml

---

Posted on Sat, Mar. 12, 2005

Two Navy jets cause sonic booms, surprise residents

BRIAN HAAS

Herald Staff Writer

MANATEE - Sonic booms startled residents Friday evening across the county as two Navy fighter jets streaked toward MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa.
>snip<

The booms were caused by two Navy F-18 Hornets flying from Pensacola, said 2nd Lt. Larry van der Oord at MacDill Air Force Base. The two jets landed around 8 p.m. and the booms could be heard from Citrus to Manatee counties.

"The F-18 is a twin-engine jet, and I know it is a fast jet and very capable of breaking the sound barrier," he said. "They (residents) shouldn't worry, everything is fine."
>snip<

Emergency dispatchers in Manatee County also received calls from residents reporting the boom. The jets are scheduled to leave possibly by Sunday, so more booms are possible.

The MacDill spokesman called the F-18s' arrival a "routine landing" but didn't know how fast they were flying or how low to the ground they were upon approach.
>snip<

Earlier Friday evening, a security worker at Sarasota-Bradenton International Airport acknowledged that at least one Navy cargo plane performed maneuvers in the area and landed at the airport. More details were not available Friday night.
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/news/local/11116217.htm

---

F-18 Flyover

People living in Pinellas County got an unexpected shock tonight. Several people called us in the newsroom claiming they heard a loud boom and felt their homes shake. It wasn't an earthquake... but it was two Navy F-18 jets flying to MacDill Air Force base from Pensacola. A MacDill spokesman says the jets went super sonic over the gulf of Mexico. In fact the u-s geological society says the sonic boom registered at least a 2-point 7 on the Richter scale. MacDill says they are checking in to any rules violations.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=12477

---

Well, there it is.

Everything's fine. Routine landing, two F18s. At least 2.7 on the Richter scale in Tampa, just northeast of MacDill. They're checking into violations. Could happen again on Sunday.

[Swamp Rat]

83. Rash Limpballs been eating loads beans again to cure his Oxyconstipation?

[soup]

84. Oh, my eyes!

He's a perfect candidate for 'Swamp Ratting'.

well done.

[HeeBGBz]

85. Why is a sonic boom listed on the earthquake activity site?

It's on there with 0.0 on the Richter. That just struck me odd that it would be on there at all.

edited to add: How can a sonic boom be registered at a depth of 5.0 km?

[soup]

87. We're all asking, HeeBGBz.

Reports are saying it was a routine landing of two F18's at MacDill AFB that caused the house-rattling deep rolling rumble. Last night it was on the map as a 2.7.

I understand that 2.7 is really minor, but whatever it was didn't feel minor, and definitely not normal or routine.

If it was a sonic boom created over such a densely populated area, I'd think the pilots might have some 'splainin' to do. This was felt what? up to 60 miles away or so? in both directions up and down the coast from the pinpointed center in Tampa.

I don't know. :shrug:

[kittenpants]

88. From what others have posted, it seems possible that the boom could

cause readings on the seismic sensors (which are located above ground). They're programmed to assume they are sensing something coming from within the earth so they're calculations on the depth of the quake would be all messed up on that basis.

I'm leaning toward that explanation, but still not sure if a sonic boom is usually felt over such a wide area (granted it was reported that two planes created booms).

[HeeBGBz]

89. So what have they been saying about the "boom?"

Nothing else was posted after I went to work this am. I see it's no longer on the earthquake list.