Zogby poll !!!

[NicRic]

OAKLAND, Calif., Sept. 11 /U.S. Newswire/ -- For the first time since the
2000 elections, a major poll shows the country split evenly between former
Vice President Al Gore and President Bush. The same poll also shows that
half the voters in America have not forgotten the controversy of the 2000
election.

The results of the Sept. 5-9 Zogby poll show Bush with less than majority
support and only with the narrowest of margins over Al Gore, 48 percent to
46 percent -- a difference that's within the poll's margin of error (3.2
percent). Moreover, Gore leads Bush among independent voters by 47 percent
to 43 percent.

"More than two and a half years after the 2000 election and we are back
where we started," said pollster John Zogby. "The country was evenly divided
then and it is still evenly divided."

The poll, conducted on Sept. 5-9 by Zogby International for Draft Gore
(draftgore.com), also shows Gore easily leading all major contenders for the
Democratic nomination with 24 percent compared to 16 percent for Dean, 12
percent for Lieberman, 11 percent for Kerry, 7 percent for Gephardt, and 2
percent for Edwards.

"These results are stunning, considering that Al Gore is the only potential
candidate who1s been out of the limelight since last December," says Draft
Gore Chair Monica Friedlander. "The strength of support and staying power
Gore enjoys clearly indicate that he has an excellent chance of beating
George Bush in 2004. We're confident that results such as these will
persuade Vice President Gore to enter the race and lead the Democratic Party
to victory in 2004."

None of the other Democratic contenders could hold Bush to less than 50
percent in a similar Zogby poll conducted one week ago. Howard Dean, Gore's
closest competitor and widely considered the frontrunner among declared
candidates, lagged 10 points behind Bush (42 percent to 52 percent).

"Gore is clearly the most electable candidate," says Bill McCormack of Draft
Gore. "What's the 2004 election about if not winning? Four years ago at this
time Bush held a lead of more than 10 points over Gore, and Gore still won
the popular vote in 2000. Now they start even, and the undecided vote tends
to break in favor of the challenger. Gore is in a perfect position for
2004."

In the match-up against Bush, Gore received 77 percent support from
Democrats, 47 percent from independents, and 10 percent from Republicans.

-- COUNTRY STILL POLARIZED OVER 2000 ELECTION

Perhaps the most intriguing result of the poll was the almost even split on
a question never asked of voters before. The poll asked respondents whether
they agree or disagree that Gore would have been elected president had all
the votes been counted in Florida in 2000. Almost half, 46 percent , agreed,
and 48 percent disagreed (again, within the margin of error). A large
majority of Democrats (70 percent) and a majority of independents (50
percent) believe Gore would have won had the Supreme Court not intervened.

"Three years after being told to move on and get over the controversy,
almost half the country still believes that with all the votes counted Gore
would be in the White House now," Friedlander said. "This enduring belief
gives Al Gore a standing among Democrats that is normally enjoyed by
incumbent presidents."

-- COUNTRY BETTER OFF UNDER GORE

Asked whether the country would have been better or worse off under a Gore
administration, a plurality of respondents (37 percent) gave the nod to a
hypothetical Gore presidency. Only 33 percent said the country would have
been worse off, and 21 percent said there would have been no difference.
Both Democrats (64 percent) and independents (36 percent) feel Gore's
leadership would have been better for America.

Asked if they feel that Gore should run in 2004, a majority of Democrats in
(52 percent) said yes.

-- ABOUT THE POLL

Zogby International interviewed 1000 likely voters nationwide from Sept. 5
through Sept. 9, 2003. The margin of error is plus/minus 3.2 percent. The
poll was commissioned by Draft Gore 2004 (http://www.draftgore.com).

[StopTheMorans]

1. Dupe

on edit: here's the thread with the poll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=322491&mesg_id=322491

[HFishbine]

2. Say whaaaaaaat?

"The same poll also shows that half the voters in America have not forgotten the controversy of the 2000 election."

So, half have forgotten?

[wyldwolf]

3. Yeah, the Republican half have "forgotten."

Don't mean to contribute to a dupe thread, but just had to point that out!

[NicRic]

4. Whats a dupe thread ?

All I did was post this information because I thought some of you might find it interesting .No other motive here ! I believe paranoia is a little rampant here .Make what you want out of this poll. Iam from the anyone except bush in 2004! However I do honestly feel Gore not running was a mistake . If whoever you like becomes to nominee, believe me I will vote for them.
Take Care NicRic
After I wrote the above I went back and followed the link another poster supplied .Now I get it a "duplicate post" .Sorry for jumping to conclusions B/4 I checked things out a little more ! I thought it was like I was trying to dupe someone or something like that ,stupid me !!!! Or maybe its due tothe 100+ degree wheather we are having here in the S.F Bay area ? Apoligies,
Sincerely,NicRic

[StopTheMorans]

5. whoa buddy:)

I didn't accuse you of anything, hold on there. A "dupe thread" merely means that the information that you posted has already been posted in this forum, hence dupe (duplicate). Just a way to avoid having the same thing posted numerous times, no tinfoil hat here, don't get so touchy:)

[Eloriel]

7. RELAX, NicRic

He was accusing you only of posting something that had already been posted elsewhere. Often dupe threads get locked (esp. in LBN). No big deal. You are being accused of nothing more nefarious than not noticing there's another thead on the same article.

Eloriel

[LynneSin]

8. Half have not forgotten, they refuse 2 acknowledge that there was an issue

They don't believe that Katherine Harris purged over 50,000 voters from the voter list including people who's only "crime" was nothing more than having a name or SSN number similiar to someone who committed a felony OR had misdemeanor crimes like parking tickets.

They really believe that 19,000 Elderly Jewish voters in West Palm Beach really wanted Pat Buchanon as their president.

They haven't caught on that there was unfair tabulation of the overseas ballots where more illegal overseas ballots from Bush Counties were accepted than those in Gore counties (illegal as in no witness signature, no postmark, postmark beyond date allowed, duplicates and my favorite - postmarks that weren't even from overseas).

[opihimoimoi]

6. Gore played his hand and slept while the others protected their ante

and stayed in the fight.

While this is not poker, and anything can happen, the fact is Gore slept with what may have turned out to be the winning hand.

[Brucey]

9. Slogan:

REELECT GORE IN 2004!

[MercutioATC]

10. "The poll, conducted on Sept. 5-9 by Zogby International for Draft Gore"

Did you catch those last three words?

I'm not trying to take the wind out of anybody's sails, I'm just pointing out that this is NOT an independant poll. Ler ME write the questions and hand the check to a polling company and I'll bet I can show support for damn near anybody...

[newyawker99]

11. dupe

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=322491&mesg_id=322491


I am locking this one.


NYer99
DU Moderator