Gannongate: I can link Iraq false intel, gay escorts, Nazis, Gannon, crack

[HamdenRice]

Gannongate: I can link Iraq false intel, gay escorts, Nazis, Gannon, crack -- and even Nick Berg.

Hold onto your hats folks; we are through the looking glass. I have participated in the Gannon wrinkles threads intermittently, but I have always thought that by focusing on Gosch, we are barking up the wrong tree. So I have been focusing on other angles, and I think I have come up with some very, very scary connections. So sorry to not post this in Gannon wrinkles, but this has nothing to do with Gosch.

This is not based on speculation, but on mostly documented links from the MSM and mainstream blogs. It does also rely on some RW sources, but more about that in a minute.

I think that one of the key people in this network -- I wouldn't call it a conspiracy -- is one Todd Blodgett. Blodgett is the head of an advertising or PR agency in DC, called the TAD Agency.

Blodgett first emerges in the 1989 Washington Times expose of gay escorts being taken on midnight tours of the Reagan/Bush WH. These tours were organized by Craig Spence, an associate of Lawrence King of the Franklin credit union S&L looting/boy prostitution scandal. It is frequently claimed that Spence recorded his clients and used his lists/recordings for blackmail and political power purposes. He also claimed to be working for the CIA, although those claims could have been self-serving attempts to deflect prosecution.

At the time this story broke, one person publicly identified as caught up in the credit card lists was Todd Blodgett. He credit card was used to pay for prositutes, but he always maintained that he allowed a friend to use his card. At the time, Blodgett was a protege of Lee Atwater, carrying out negative research on Democrats. In the Reagan/Bush WH he was a staff editorial assistant, then moved on to be advisor to the Bush/Quale campaign as domestic policy advisor.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=548

After leaving politics for the private sector, Blodgett played a peculiar role as a middle man in several transactions seemingly designed to protect the assets of far RW neo-Nazi companies and institutions that were insolvent. He purchased mailing lists from the Willis Carto's Liberty Lobby for $85,000 (which were allegedly worth in the millions), delivering by his own testimony the last $25,000 in cash as 250 $100 bills.

http://homepage.mac.com/lsf/personal/business_tb.html

The purpose was to get the lists out of Liberty Lobby ownership, because it was being forced into bankruptcy because of lawsuits by the "revisionist" Institute for Historical Review.

Blodgett similarly came to the rescue of skinhead/neo-nazi Resistance Records. Its owners faced judgments in Canada under that country's hate speech law and in Michigan for back taxes. Blodgett and Carto purchased the record label. After a falling out with Carto, Blodgett brokered the sale of the record label to Turner Diaries author and National Alliance founder William Pierce. This took place in DC's University Club. Blodgett was eventually ejected from membership of the Club once it was discovered he brokered this deal in their building. Washington Post 1/12/00.

Blodgett was a very busy young man running several businesses out of the Kennedy-Warren that landmark building. In addition to his mailing list business and Resistance Records (which the Kennedy-Warren politely asked him to take off premises), it is alleged by TBRNews and Cannonfire blog that Blodgett ran a call boy service.

<Digression: TBRNews has been itself called a neo-nazi or revisionist offshoot of the far RW Barnes Report. In earlier posts, I believed it was not, because its owner claims it is under new management. But if you look at its book list, it is clearly affiliated with revisionism. I do believe however, that it is furiously leaking damaging information about Blodgett and other far RW institutions as a result of the falling out and bad blood between the Willis Carto group and the Institute for Historical Review group.>

Cannonfire deconstructs cryptic allegations by TBRNews that Blodgett was running a call boy ring out of the Kennedy-Warren:

TBRNews wrote:

Seems a former White House aide, (Reagan White House) was caught running a male prostitution service and got fired from the Monkey Palace, and later from the RNC for supplying muscular boy toys to some top Beltway gays. Well, after being fired, our bozo got together with a Muslim druggie and set up operations at the Kennedy-Warren, a landmark DC apartment/business complex. They ran a male escort service supplying young studs to older Beltway citizens. Among these citizens were: Federal judges, top political figures, mostly Republican, very senior military people and certainly members of Congress. The head of this service, that utilized credit cards for payment, supplied young men, mostly young servicemen, between 18 to 25 for sex. They kept very complete records, including names and address of the johns as well as credit card receipts. And later there was blackmail and now, I have learned from the inside, this joker has sold the lists to: Iranians( through his partner’s Arab connections) and a gay group in DC. Sold the lists twice and got twice the money. I have seen a partial list and it reads like the DC social register, believe me!


Cannonfire deconstructs this as:

The TRBNews site implies, but does not state, that all of this somehow links up with the Gannon story.

I don't know who wrote these allegations, and I certainly cannot vouch for their veracity -- but I do know the name of the "former White House aide": Todd Blodgett.

Blodgett's name came up in the June 29, 1989 Washington Times story on the Reagan era gay prostitution ring servicing the powerful in DC...

<snip>

Interestingly, Todd Blodgett has -- like Bruce and (perhaps) Bobby Eberle -- devoted some effort to the business of "taking names" -- that is, compiling mailing lists. He now runs something called the TAB agency, a PR firm in DC. At the same time, he has functioned as a connecting point between the Republican right and the far, far, far right.

As in: Fascist.

<end of quotes>

Note that Blodgett is accused of pimping "military" type prostitutes. The question is whether this is connected to Gannon's "military" type prostitution ring as well. And back in the 1989 scandal, the allegation also was of "military" type escorts.

Now, who was the "Muslim druggie" mentioned as the business associate of Blodgett? This probably refers to Iraqi exile Joe Aziz aka Aziz al-Taee. They refer to him perhaps unfairly as a druggie because he was prosecuted for selling a huge number of plastic envelopes used for crack, not crack itself, in Pennsylvania where he was in business. He also seems to have had some problems with fraud in connection with his computer and appliance businesses.

So to recap: Blodgett, who was connected to the 1989 Franklin boy sex scandal is accused of having set up a call boy ring in partnership with an Iraqi, Joe Aziz.


Here's where Gannon comes in. Way back when Bush II was trying to build momentum for the war, using faked intelligence from "Iraqi exiles" like Chalabi, Joe Aziz was one such Iraqi exile being shopped around the country by GOPUSA. Aziz was the head of something called the "Iraqi American Council."

Who was the "reporter" for GOPUSA shopping Aziz? None other than our own Gannon/Guckert. Here are the archived websites of Ganon's reporting:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:z8LbpQ6cOnoJ:www.gopusa.com/news/2003/march/0310_torture.shtml+%22taee%22+and+%22jeff+gannon%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:K9ufleLjy9sJ:www.gopusa.com/news/2003/march/0303_dc_rallyp.shtml+%22gannon%22+and+%22al-taee%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Also, Gannon/Guckert pushed this fake intel into WH press briefings conducted by Ari Fleischer. Campaign Extra website, here:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001469.html

identifies the following exchange as being between Ari and Gannon/Guckert:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030304-13.html

QUESTION: This is about Iraq. On Saturday, I interviewed Aziz al-Taee, Chairman of the Iraqi-American Council. He detailed a compelling body of evidence about the holocaust being waged against the Iraqi people. Why hasn't the administration focused on this aspect of Saddam's regime to justify intervention without U.N. approval? After all, it was the Clinton administration that used ethnic cleansing as a pretext to bomb and send troops into Kosovo.

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the administration has frequently pointed that out. And Secretary Powell, in his presentation up in New York, described at some length the crimes committed by Saddam Hussein against his own people. And this is something the President remarks about from time to time. What about the cries on the basis of human rights for the people of Iraq who are suffering under the hand of Saddam Hussein? That is an important issue for the world to face, as well, as the consequences of allowing Saddam to have weapons of mass destruction.

Some questions:

Where does Blodgett get his money from for saving assets of far RW institutions?

Did Blodgett really run a call boy ring or is this gossip and innuendo?

If the answer to the above is yes, was Gannon a call boy in Blodgett's ring?

Did Blodgett and or Gannon use blackmail to secure Gannon's position?

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[seemslikeadream]

1. I'm saving this post

n/t

[villager]

2. good work.

if any of this ever gets out, past their ability to control it, their whole house of cards could collapse... but that's a big "if" in the present jackbooted climate...

[Flammable Materials]

104. If it does get out, expect another "unprecedented" terror attack.

That's the only thing that would keep this off the front pages.

[donsu]

3. great research work - the more names - the more connections

the clearer the picture

[Ninga]

4. This is utterly fascinating and compelling.

We need to get these questions off the Internet and on to the front page above the fold and on the nightly news.

Otherwise the Gannon/Guckert story will be relegated to the "blogger nation".

Time magazine, US News and Report, etc, etc, etc, should be all over this juicy story............

[Ninga]

6. Hello? Hello? Calling Keith Olberman.....front burner time.

[HamdenRice]

14. If you want this story to break ...

keep this thread kicked. The MSM reads DU, but probably not beyond the first page.

Also note that this is not based on original legwork street research but just drawing together a lot of disparate information that was already out there on the web.

[Roland99]

57. And this one has a nice title, too

and that info of Al-Taee with Wolfowitz...man.

[FreedomAngel82]

55. I think

it should wait until it's found out where Gannon/Guckert came from. Like who specificially. Whether it be Ari or something else. This is big though! Wow. One thing I wonder though is why is Gannon/Guckert still around? Why aren't they making him just disappear?

[Minstrel Boy]

5. excellent stuff, thanks n/t

[HamdenRice]

7. Forgot to mention Nick Berg connection...

Joe Aziz also turns up in the Nick Berg case. Aziz left the US for Baghdad after the occupation began and ended up being a business partner or employee of Berg. Reportedly, he was the last person to speak to Berg before Berg's death.

[Roland99]

10. Interestink...

[seemslikeadream]

11. There was some good stuff about Berg

here. I'll try and look for it.

[Mandate My Ass]

18. There was a post by scoopmeister that mentioned Aziz posing

as a journalist at some press conference in Iraq and lobbing softball, Bush-friendly questions at the general or whoever was speaking that day. I'll look in the archives for it.

[Beam Me Up]

21. Very Interesting. Here's more:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001469.html

SNIP:

Al-Taee, also known as Aziz K. Aziz, also known as "Joe Aziz," criss-crossed the nation in the six months before "shock and awe" over Baghdad -- speaking at rallies sponsored by the pro-Bush radio giant Clear Channel Corp. and making frequent TV appearances on pro-Bush -- er, we meant "fair and balanced" -- Fox News Channel and elsewhere.

Gannon/Guckert's interview with al-Taee -- just a few days after the former gay prostitute declared himself a journalist -- has raised a lot of eyebrows at Daily Kos, which along with Americablog has been key in breaking this scandal wide open. It probably shouldn't, though -- because from reading the clips it looks like al-Taee met Gannon at the March 2003 outdoor rally and was simply talking to anyone with a microphone or tape recorder.

But they may have met even earlier. "Gannon" was reportedly a member of the D.C. chapter of Free Republic, the ultra right-wing Web site. And according to this article, that group sponsored a January 2003 appearance by none other than Aziz al-Taee. The other sponsor was a group called MOVE-OUT, which stands for Marines and Other Veterans Engaging Outrageous Un-American Traitors (Web site no longer exists). Isn't J.D. Guckert an ex-Marine? Hmmmm.

[HamdenRice]

27. Aziz is everywhere -- Here he pulls a Gannon/Guckert

According to Campaign extra he asks a softball question to Gen. Sanchez:

http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/extra/archives/001469.html

And here's yet one more bizarre and newsworthy thing we uncovered: After al-Taee left, or fled, to Baghdad in 2003, he pulled a "Jeff Gannon" of his own. On Aug. 7, 2003, the convicted felon gained access to a briefing by Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez and asked this question (sorry, no link):

And here's yet one more bizarre and newsworthy thing we uncovered: After al-Taee left, or fled, to Baghdad in 2003, he pulled a "Jeff Gannon" of his own. On Aug. 7, 2003, the convicted felon gained access to a briefing by Lt. General Ricardo Sanchez and asked this question (sorry, no link):

Q My name is Aziz Al-Taee, chairman of the Iraqi-American Council, visiting from the States. Actually, I want to take the opportunity to express the thankful feeling among the Iraqi-American community for the great jobs has been done.
The question we have -- obviously, we are concerned about the casualties among the civilians, and also, among the U.S. soldiers and the coalition soldiers. How fast is in your plan to transfer the power and empower the Iraqi Governing Council and try to stabilize the security situation here?

Can this thing get any weirder?

<end quote>

So the guy who allegedly was involved in crack, a gay prostitution ring with Blodgett, selling gay client lists to Iranians, pushing false intelligence with Gannon on the public, ends up in a press briefing in Baghdad -- and is the last person to talk to Nick Berg.

BTW, the Iranian connection now makes sense, because Chalabi and the other Iraqi exiles were deep in bed with the Iranians -- that's why he was raided and arrested.

[Beam Me Up]

35. There's a photo of al-Taee addressing a Free Republic rallly somewhere...

I've been trying to find it in my old bookmarks from the Berg beheading. I remember seeing it but can't locate it now. I'm a work which hampers so, maybe when I get home later.

Does anyone know what photo I'm speaking of?

[Roland99]

45. These are interesting:

Azis Altaee talking to Hon. David Mack
http://www.barzan.com/upcoming_events13.html

Outspoken Philadelphia Man From Iraq Defends Past
Aziz Al-Taee Pleaded Guilty To Making Plastic Envelopes Used For Cocaine
http://www.nbc10.com/news/2098489/detail.html

Gwen Ifill gets perspective on the day's military developments from retired colonels John Warden, W. Patrick Lang, and Samuel Gardiner. Aziz Al-Taee, chairman of the Iraqi-American Council, joins their discussion.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june03/military_3-24.html


Al-Taee with Wolfowitz

[HamdenRice]

50. HOLY Sh**t -- I just linked Aziz to Wolfowitz below -- please see! nt

[southlandshari]

123. There was a good DU thread on Aziz started May 17, 2004

Do the archives go that far back? If not, I saved it and will upload it if someone can tell me how. I followed the Nick Berg very closely and saved lots of threads and articles around that time.

[HamdenRice]

51. Just so we know what this pic may represent ...

Wolfowitz standing next to one of the accused biggest crack dealers on the East Coast, the operator of a call boy ring, a blackmailer, spreader of false intel, and Gannon/Guckert's boss -- oh yeah, and one of 36 handpicked Iraqis trained and prepared to take over the Iraq government.

[Roland99]

52. And now he's being tossed about as a candidate to lead the World Bank

Already, one of Wolfowitz's finance buddies from Citibank is the PM in Pakistan.

[FreedomAngel82]

58. Oh wow

So they are going to control their government. Wow. I knew they had that in mind but no idea how. Is there any information out there on the other twenty-nine people? And I do remember how after the "election" in Iraq they were crying fraud. Before that Allawi only had 4% of the vote and then after they cried fraud he had 14% of the vote.

[DoYouEverWonder]

116. Seems like al-Taee likes to hang out with the DC Freepers

There are probably a few more pictures in Angelwood's Photo Albums. Here are just a couple that I found at this link - http://community.webshots.com/album/61282220TUvbWW/0





Aziz Al-Taee, Iraqi born American citizen speaking about his family's suffering under rule of Hussein, family members murdered. Aziz shows photos of woman and baby gassed to death in Iraq by Hussein. Patriots Rally III - January 18, 2003




Patriots Rally for America IV - March 1, 2003

[southlandshari]

126. Here's the link from an old thread

Sorry if this is a duplicate reply:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/61282220/61285955AKXtsx

[FreedomAngel82]

56. On Guckert and marines

is has anybody found out if he was really an ex-marine?

[Roland99]

147. I've never seen positive confirmation that he was

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. What are the odds that all of these people are connected?

SLIM TO NONE! Aziz was the last person to speak to Berg? I wonder if Berg's dad knew Aziz? Mr. Berg does NOT support this administration. He may be a good person to talk to? If Aziz was an employee of Berg's, chances are Mr. Berg knew him. Maybe he could provide more insight into this Gannon thing? I still think Berg was killed by CIA. I think his beheading is one that was taped? The people who beheaded him looked suspicious to me. They were not Iraqis. IMCPO

He knew something. Maybe he told his dad? :shrug:

on edit...Fantastic post! VERY interesting connections!

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

32. Berg Connection

You should edit your original post to add this info.

[HamdenRice]

36. Sorry -- at first I forgot but added it to several response posts nt

[BamaBecky]

103. Lord have mercy! n/t

[eridani]

137. So, has anyone sent this to Nick Berg's parents?

Very seriously pissed off antiwar people as I recall.

[ewagner]

8. These people

at the very least, traveled in the same circles....whether the linkage is direct, I don't know......

[kk897]

9. really excellent work!

Are you sure that the "Muslim druggie" Aziz is the same as the IAC Aziz?

Thank you for sharing this; I agree, it's not a "wrinkles" post but is most definitely of interest to *anyone* trying to get to the bottom of this escapade. Excellent!

BTW, you can find out a lot from doing a google search on phone numbers and addresses, as I discovered with some of my recent research. For instance, I discovered that the USA Next folks were "sharing" an office with basically a high-falutin' spammer for the GOP and an office building with what I believe are a bunch of sham right-wing organizations and perhaps a bogus substance abuse treatment center. Googling phone numbers revealed the extent of the PR company behind the swifties, et al--who are reps of USA Next, too. Anyway, I hadn't ever thought of that little trick before someone else did it with some other shady character in my research thread a while back, so... if you haven't done something like that, you might consider it.

[HamdenRice]

12. Good point ...

I do not know that the "Muslim druggie" who is alleged to have run the call boy service is Aziz, so let me withdraw that conclusion. I do have sources that the "drug thug" mentioned by Cannonfire is Aziz and he was prosecuted for crack envelopes and is the same Aziz who is shopped around by Gannon:

Cannonfire wrote:

Bob Johnson is a founding member of the Free Republic. You will recall that the Freepers had links to Aziz al-Taee/Joe Aziz, the drug thug cited by rightists (including Guckert/Gannon) as a "responsible" spokesman for the Iraqi anti-Saddam movement. Aziz also played a mysterious role in the Nick Berg affair.

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[WarNoMore]

13. You are to be commended.

Excellent job. This will be bookmarked.

[frictionlessO]

15. Im crying!!! I spent two weeks trying to convince folks

about Blodgetts connection being pretty damn fishy.

My question is are there any recent pics of Blodgett?

I ask because the two of him that Ive seen were from 79-81 or so. Yet when compared to Roger Stone (the possible TANG false docs hand off guy), Blodgett looks like a younger Stone.

Just my shot in the dark, I guess.

Notadmblond here at DU also had this same Blodget angle interest a few weeks back.


edited to add these pics. First two are Blodgett from right around his college years. Last one is a more current one of Stone. I'd love to have peoples opinions that these two aren't/are the same man, so I can stop thinking about it.

[HamdenRice]

20. pics of blodgett

I can't find the one picture I came across several days ago on TBR. You are right he looks amazingly like Stone, although they have separate established identities. Also interesting that both are alleged to be involved in sex scandals and dirty tricks, though Stone appears to be into the kinky hetero thing.

[frictionlessO]

25. I put the pics I have of 'em up and edited that last post.

As far as different kinks go.. well not too sound over simplistic (because kinks are anything but simplistic) but kinky is as kinky does.
Not odd at all to have ones kinky persuasions mutate through time.

[starroute]

101. Stone's kinks may not have been all that different

No, I don't think Stone and Blodgett are the same guy. But I do keep wondering if Stone fits into the story somewhere.

Back in September, somebody started a thread that didn't go anywhere, asking "Is Roger Stone any part of the possible child porn slave trade-for political favors story?."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2402259

And they followed up by posting the Stones' sex ad (which also appeared on a couple of other threads):

C-161,787-DC* INSATIABLE COUPLE
We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She's 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He's 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8" +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders. No fat people or smokers need respond. Send photo and phone. No photo, no response! We are interested in DC, VA, MD, NYC, Miami, and LA

I wondered at the time why the ad would be advertising for single men to make up a threesome but would specify only that the wife was bi. So I googled on Stone a little and found a couple of sites saying of him, more or less, "Nobody who dresses like that could be straight." That was pretty thin evidence, but there's also the fact that Stone was best friends going back to high school with Terry Dolan, who died of AIDS in 1986.

No, I don't know what this adds up to, but I'd be very hesitant to conclude that Stone was into merely hetero kinkiness.

[libertypirate]

168. About Stone -- Some strange Business

As long as we are talking "Roger Warren Stone" is the same as "Roger W Stone" and "Roger Stone".

Any way...

If you haven't looked at the secinfo.com there might be something there.

http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?X=roger+w%2E+stone


It's a free signup I was having a little trouble before I did.

[EC]

112. They were into swinging

Maybe that's why the Repugs were so hyped up about getting Ryan out of the race in Illinois last year, with his swinging etc. maybe he'd be dragging in some of these folks...

[HamdenRice]

30. That's scary

But because both of these people are well known, how could one person have two well known identities???

[frictionlessO]

34. Thats what confuses the hell out of me!!

I mean if the Gosch/Guckert pics can be said to be so similar... what the hell does this say?

His ears are the same, the lips are the same, even his hair is colored and parted the same. Whats more is that the Stone pic is 15-20 years later on so he looks so much like Blodgett would've aged.

Try something scary, download the pics and put Blodgetts school pic over Stones. This makes my head spin... but I dont want to jump any gun. Im just saying the coincidences are freaking insanely creepy.

[HamdenRice]

37. Here's an innocent but racist explanation ...

Those RW perverted black ops guys all look alike!

[frictionlessO]

38. LOL!!!

Now now, I'm a pervert as well in some ways and according to some people. However there is no way I bear any resemblance to a LW black ops guy (the LW does have those don't they?).

So you think they are pretty similar as well then? Enough for more people to look at it?

[FreedomAngel82]

60. They do look fairly similiar

Notice how they smile and their hair. His hair style hasn't changed very much since college if that his him. His nose looks the same as the first picture just a lil more "grownup" as you could say. Aren't he and his wife swingers? I thought I read that somewhere here. People can change name's. :shrug:

[frictionlessO]

63. Yep, supposedly that was only one of his scandals though.

This is making me feel better, so far I havent gotten much feed back on this thing in the past few weeks, its been driving me crazy at night.

From what I've read about all Gannons pics, especially when they were first IDing him the ears are the most important thing to look at. When I see the ears on these two guys... well, you see.

[frictionlessO]

70. WHY isn't Stones pic showing up now??? WTF!!

[Frederik]

94. WHAT?

You mean to imply that these are two different people? (Or indeed, of course, one after all) - I just scrolled through this and only half-read the text, and when I looked at the pictures I just naturally assumed it was the same person. Then I returned and realized it was supposed to be two different individuals... He even has his hear the same way!

[frictionlessO]

95. Kinda scary eh? Frederik?

Im not 100% convinced its the same man, but boy oh boy the similarities!

[Frederik]

107. Boy oh boy! Everybody

has a doppeltganger in those circles it appears.

[bush_is_wacko]

109. Cloning? That's the same guy or his twin!

It is even more convincing than the Guckert/Gosch photos.

I wonder if Wolfowitz, Berg, and some of these others have "alternate" identities?

[rman]

169. doppelganger doesn't imply clone

some people just look very much alike. not many though, and i imagine it can be quite tricky to get look-alikes to behave like the real thing, in the same situations where the real thing operates.

[BamaBecky]

105. Whoa! n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

16. I'm glad you started a new thread on this, Hamden.

I look forward to reading the results. Thanks.

[Roland99]

17. Interesting letter from Liberty Lobby to Blodgett

http://homepage.mac.com/lsf/personal/980930blodgett.html

[HamdenRice]

22. Yeah took me a while to figure this out ...looks like fraud on bankrupcty

In other words, LL sells the lists to Blodgett. Then it tells him he can't use them because they didn't really sell it. That looks a lot like fraud on the bankrupcty court which has rights to all the debtor's assets. Trying to sell them out of the bankrupt debtor is a fraudulent conveyance.

[Cooley Hurd]

19. Joe Aziz also had ties with the Russian Mafia:

http://soj.dailykos.com/story/2004/5/17/174040/985
<snip>
We also learn that Taee's real name is Aziz K. Aziz, was found guilty of being involved in a major crack cocaine distribution ring in Philadelphia, has ties to the Russian mafia and that Aziz and his men on the Iraqi-American Council were given special "media training" by the United States government. There's a lot more in that article about Taee and I recommend you read it.

Of minor note is that the ringleader of the crack cocaine mafia was Valery Sigal, married to a beauty queen and actress. Apparently, Sigal got her a role in a Zalman King movie.

Ok, so now we know Taee is a major league crook with ties to the Russian mafia. We also know the Bush administration used him as a spokesperson to rally support against Saddam Hussein, besides training him on "media relations" and getting him to give speeches at Clear Channel events. And this was the guy Berg made the mistake of doing business with.
</snip>

[HamdenRice]

23. WOW -- can you document this?

My understanding is that Aziz was guilty of something related to the empty envelopes. But of course that could be a plea/deal. I mean who has tens of thousands of empty crack vials who isn't involved in distributing crack?

Here's what we need: the original indictment. That would be the charge before it was pleaded down.

If he was charged with crack distribution and then went to the Iraqi freedom tour, that is really big news.

[Cooley Hurd]

28. Here's more from the Philly Inquirer:

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/8684646.htm?1c

Posted on Mon, May. 17, 2004
BERG MET WITH SHADY IRAQI

By WILLIAM BUNCH

<snip>
Berg teamed up in Baghdad with an ex-Philadelphia man who led a controversial group of Iraqi expatriates encouraged by the U.S. government - even as he faced deportation for his role in Russian-emigre crime ring selling millions of vials used for crack.

Aziz Kadoory Aziz, also known as Aziz al-Taee, hooked up earlier this year with the 26-year-old West Chester man to start a small company called Shirikat Abraj Babil, or Babylon Towers Co., that would install, inspect and repair telecommunications and utility towers.

<snip>

It's not known whether Aziz ever told Berg of his controversial past.

In 1993, about a decade after fleeing Saddam's Iraq for America, Aziz was in the electronics business when he was one of 25 people charged with distributing some 100 million crack vials on the East Coat. Prosecutors said that Aziz, who lived in Northeast Philadelphia, was tied to a network run by a Soviet immigrant named Valery Sigal. Most in the ring were immigrants from Russia or the former Eastern Bloc.

Aziz claimed he didn't know the vials were going to drug dealers. but he pled guilty. He was sentenced to three years of probation, fined $3,000, and forced to forfeit $17,673 in profits.

He was arrested again in May 2001, on charges that the chain of electronics stores he owns in Philadelphia was selling counterfeited compact discs. A judge dismissed that case for lack of evidence last March. The Inquirer also reported he received probation in a 1997 case for selling stolen computers to undercover cops. Current records show he owns a cell-phone firm called Page One Communications with a number of outlets in Philadelphia.

<snip>

In December 2002, another key member of the Iraqi American Council - a California engineer named Bassam Ridha Al-Hulsaini - was reportedly one of 15 Iraqis flown to Washington by the State Department for two days of "media training" under a project known as Future of Iraq. A couple of months later, al-Hulsaini addressed a "pro-troops" rally in San Francisco, declaring that "The Iraq people are waiting for this liberation."

It's not clear whether Aziz received "media training," but the handsome, nattily dressed ex-pat, now 40, probably didn't need it. He addressed similar rallies in Valley Forge, St. Louis and Washington, where he claimed Hussein's henchmen killed both his cousin and brother-in-law. The rallies were launched by Clear Channel syndicated talk-radio host Glenn Beck, and the media giant sponsored many of them.
</snip>

[SheepyMcSheepster]

24. kick, great post. eom

[WLKjr]

26. Of course he is connected and 'knows' a lot of people

he is a whore of course........

[Riding this Donkey]

31. did you forget the nick berg link? I didn't see it above, maybe I missed

it,

Aziz was the last person to see nick berg alive in Iraq. Don't remember where I read this, but it's out there somewhere.

He was in business with Nick Berg.

[HamdenRice]

33. Aziz claims he was last person to see Nick Berg

This is from Nomorefakenews, but it is really an article from AP and Philadelphia Enquirer lightly annotated by nomorefakenews:

http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.net/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=3618

In interviews with several news organizations in Baghdad, Aziz claimed he may have been the last friend to speak with Berg before his kidnapping and beheading by terrorists possibly linked to the al Qaeda network. The radio-tower contractor had come back to Baghdad after a 13-day detainment in Mosul, only to disappear again on April 10.

Aziz said that on April 10 Berg "surprised me by calling me at 9 or 10, to say that he found some friend to travel with to Jordan." Berg said he was en route, but Aziz doesn't know who he was with or what kind of vehicle they were driving. "He said they were nice people. I told him to have a nice trip."

After living in Philadelphia for two decades, Aziz arrived in Baghdad sometime last year. A friend said he left for Iraq before the government moved on the deportation case.

Here in America, Aziz was the highly visible spokesman for a group he'd founded called the Iraqi American Council and appeared frequently on major media outlets like Fox News Channel calling for the military ouster of Saddam Hussein.

Aziz' outfront role also included speaking at pre-war, pro-troop rallies. It continued even after it was reported the inner-city electronic entrepreneur had pleaded guilty in the crack-vial case in 1994 and later had legal run-ins involving stolen computers and bootlegged CDs.

[Riding this Donkey]

42. so sorry, didn't see it above, why don't you edit and put in your OP

That way peeps like me who read the OP and not all of the posts below will see it.

Thanks a million!

[The Magistrate]

39. This Is An Interesting Piece Of Work, Mr. Rice

My consistent suspicion in this matter has been that there was a connection between Guckert's activities as a prostitute and his entre into the ranks of political tricksters. Whether the sponsorship came from a client or an employer is a useful question to answer; clients are more numerous, but an employer is a better guarantor of reliability....

[HamdenRice]

43. Thanks -- but where do we go from here?

At some point we need to move off the web and onto the shoeleather. Is there anyone in DC who can start tracking some of these connections?

Before this is called tin foil hat, we really need to confirm whether Blodgett really ran a call boy outfit with Aziz, and whether Guckert was one of his employees.

Also, is Blodgett really the principla or just a low level bag man? From other sources, his story is sometimes kind of pathetic -- like getting punched out by skin heads in West Virginia. Where does he get his money from -- 250 $100 bills, indeed. Some speculate his father, an Iowa state rep. is wealthy, but it goes beyond the Iowa rotary club level of wealth, if you know what I mean.

[alfredo]

40. Great job

:kick:

[slaveplanet]

41. I have since given pause

to the tenuous Gosch connection as soon as known disinfo artists Ted Gunderson/Tim White put out their release the other day....I believe MSM will use that angle as a way to discredit the whole ordeal.

That doesn't mean there's no connection , but there's enough elsewhere to focus on...

[CoffeeCat]

59. Why is Ted Gunderson not credible?

Wasn't Gunderson one of the principal investigators in the Johnny Gosch case? Didn't he work with Noreen Gosch?

Why is TG not credible?

[kk897]

77. Sorry about Ted Gunderson...

He's at least somewhat connected with these extremist right wingers. Which, as I've stated before, doesn't mean that everything coming out of his mouth is BS--just that you need to be on the lookout for subtext and agenda.

Here he is, shown to be in a speaking engagement with people who are founders of the AMA (see the Southern Poverty Law Center warning about this "organization", which I posted below this, I think).

http://www.freeenterprisesociety.com/

Steve Hempfling is AMA and also owns the website.

[FreedomAngel82]

64. I think personally

if the MSM focus on that angle of the story it's a nowhere deal since we all know the MSM. Especially faux.

[slaveplanet]

93. They haven't yet

But I fear if things keep progressing , they pull it out as a strawman.

[HamdenRice]

44. Suppose Aziz, not Blodgett, is the employer?

Here's an angle that eluded me as I was researching/writing this. I was focused on Blodgett, who at times seems like a principle, but at times a bottom feeder.

If Blodgett and Aziz really ran a military call boy ring, and if Guckert/Gannon was one of those military call boys, then in effect, Aziz was Guckert's employer.

This means that when Guckert/Gannon was interviewing and promoting Aziz as a source of information about Iraq, he was really interviewing his boss.

Also the blackmail angle now makes sense if we focus on Aziz. That's because one of the constant accusations against the Iraqi exiles, especially Chalabi, is that they use intelligence files to blackmail people. Remember, Chalabi somehow got the contract to go through Sadam's intelligence and was accused of using that information to try to blackmail his way into the presidency.

One more twist: The media outlets that GOPUSA/Gannon shopped Aziz/Iraqi-American Council on was Clear Channel and Fox. Clear Channel was so pro war that it banned the Dixie Chicks etc.

[hiley]

47. One more twist

you have hit a motherload, there !:kick:

[hiley]

46. Kick HamdenRice

Absolutely, a great job HamdenRice and this saga ever evolving and fascinating.

((If the answer to the above is yes, was Gannon a call boy in Blodgett's ring?

Did Blodgett and or Gannon use blackmail to secure Gannon's position?))

I really believe yes, yes....

[HamdenRice]

48. OK Now it gets really scary -- the link between Aziz and DoD

I've been working on this a couple of days, and I realize I really was maybe following the wrong links. I think it's Aziz, as much as or more than, Blodgett who is the key.

Aziz was actually an associate of known purveyor of false Iraqi intel, blackmailer and Iranian agent Ahmed Chalabi. This is what Salon has to say about Aziz, speaking for of all people Wolfowitz!

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/04/14/reconstruction/

Whoever is running the country while the groundwork for democracy is being laid will be able to place Iraqis in temporary positions where they can consolidate power. According to Aziz Al-Taee, chairman of the Iraqi American Council, 36 exiles, handpicked by Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, have spent the past four weeks in Virginia training for prospective roles in a transitional Iraqi government. Whoever ultimately has the power to fill such roles will have the power, at least in the short term, to shape Iraqi politics.

[Roland99]

53. wow

[TOOLZ]

49. Do recurring characters necessitate conspiracy?

Or is it predictible inbreeding among inbreds?

Either way, good research. Let's support the shit out of it now.

[Bouncy Ball]

149. Very good question, Toolz

exactly what I was thinking.

And I concur: good research...

[FreedomAngel82]

54. Pretty amazing stuff

I do believe it all boils down to Bush II and maybe even prehaps Ari.
I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved in their little circle of special friends. Anyway of finding this out? Great job. :toast:

[EC]

61. Okay, some of what I found, mostly on Berg

but strange I was using Gannon and Aziz al-Taee for the search words, anyway, here's this and then I'm going back in search mode:

http://home.earthlink.net/~zkkatz/page89.html


This weblog had some interesting things on it, but couldn't copy. Mostly from when Berg was killed and questions it. She points to many Lebanese helping out the Bush Administration (most of the Iraqi media- TV, newspapers and radio are operated and designed by Lebanese)(website of "expert" that fox uses for Iraqi news- he's Lebanese http://www.walidphares.com/) - wasn't that guy who went AWOL and said he was kidnapped and escaped Lebanese? So with all this going on in Lebanon now, I have to wonder, about all these connections. I still cannot understand that if Berg was beheaded while he was still alive, where was all the blood when the jugular was cut?

http://www.weblog.ro/soj/2004-5-24.html

Almost forgot, Berg worked for the Bush 2000 campaigne too, could have made some contacts then.

There is also a comment that made me take notice, It appears that experts at Kodak Park in Rochester New York compared the digital watermarks of the torture video from Abu Ghraib and the beheading video and have determined that one of the cameras used in the Nick Berg beheading is THE SAME CAMERA that took the prison torture video. It seems if this is true that Berg was killed by Americans at Abu Ghraib?


**********(This is important)Look 2/3's down her site at the news organizations owned by the site that had the beheading...I wonder if we can connect Gannon or GOPUSA to them ? Here, I was able to copy whole page and paste, then copied this:



The location of the web server is reportedly in Malaysia. However, the addresses of the publishers for these sites are located in London, England and Nurnberg, Denmark.

The location of the publishers for al-ansar.net appears to be at an Arab Press Building, which appears to be shared by different Arab news publications. The name of the organization is the Arab Press House. The building is apparently the headquarters for news magazines such as, Al Jamilla, Sayidaty, and Al Majallah among others.
Woah! Is that true? Well I found out that there are a few Arabic media organizations located at this address:

Al-Jamilla
Al-Majallah
Arrajul Asarq
Al Awsat
Hiya
Sayidaty

Let's see if we can find any info on these guys.

Al-Jamilla: Nothing on the magazine, but I do note there is a police station named Al-Jamilla. Guess where? In Baghdad, more specifically Sadr City! The poor Shi'ite slum of Baghdad! Wow that's odd isn't it?

Al-Majallah: Can't seem to find this magazine online, but I do note that a monthly journal with the same name was founded in 1921 by guess who? A guy named Antoun Sa'adeh. Curiously, one of the things he believed was that Lebanese people were not really Arabic, but were descended from an earlier Semitic people! Wow! Just like our professor Walid.

Arrajul: Can't find this magazine online, but here is an interview they did in 2000 with the sultan of Yemen. I did find an "Arrajol.com" website but it won't let you even see the title page without a subscription. Weird!

Asarq Al-Awsat: This guy I managed to find, here. What do you know? It's published in Lebanon, although written in England by Saudi Arabs. These guys seem to be at least somewhat against the occupation. They also post pictures of good looking Arab women. That's odd. The target audience of this paper is listed as "Pan Arab". This paper is clearly on good terms with the Bush administration.

Hiya: Only thing I could find is that the word "hiya" means "she" or "it". Nice... I found lots of links to an old site (hiyamagazine dot com). Guess what? It (is?) was a Lebanese magazine for women.

Sayidaty: Well guess what? This one is working and it's another Arabic magazine for women.

The host of this website is "hhsaudi.com", which you can find here. They also own Asharq al-Awsat "the leading newspaper in the Arab world" and check this out: The Chairman of the board is HRH Prince Faisal Bin Salman Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud.

Wow it looks like I hit the motherfucking jackpot with this one. Check out this other line from hhsaudi.com:

Other titles include: Al Majalla (International News Magazine ), Arrajol (Men's Interest Magazine), Sayidaty (Arab Family Magazine), Hia (Women's Interest Magazine) and Al Jamila (Beauty Magazine).
All of these magazines and newspapers are owned by the same company! The website that broadcast the Berg video was set up from the HQ of this company! A Saudi company!

[overly fluorinated]

182. Malaysia is where Gannon's alleged book will be published.

Great find EC. Follow the money trail.

[kk897]

62. Todd Blodgett is mentioned as Todd Bladget in this

Washington DC Film, and Video Resources guide, page thirteen;
it lists "Todd Bladget Agency" at the same address.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:uFb6YAuGKNQJ:www.film.dc.gov/film/lib/film/info/resource_guide.pdf+%223133+Connecticut%22+Suite+32&hl=en&lr=lang_en&client=safari

I'm not sure if that formatted the link correctly; it gets you
the html version of the pdf. At any rate, it's interesting
that either he went by that name or that it may have been a
common error.

(I decided to google the addresses and phone numbers, as I
mentioned above; hope that's okay and helpful in some way)

[slaveplanet]

78. Looks like you put

a bell on the cat ....that's definetly our boy

Tab Agency 3133 Connecticut Ave NW #32 [phone]

Bootstrap Marketing 202-319-9866 3133 Connecticut Ave NW Washington DC 20008

all with the same phone #

Tab is Blodgetts business ..I've read that before and he dealt with neo nazi rock groups... or records or something along those lines

3133 Connecticut Ave...nice digs



our boy with the Gipper

[frictionlessO]

65. This is far and away the most informative Gannon follow up thread

Ive seen on DU.

[merh]

66. self-delete

[kk897]

67. More about Blodgett...

He is a member and board member of an "organization" called American Media Association. Here's from its FAQ:

Do I qualify to become a member?

If you are a journalist, reporter, author, publisher, editor, researcher, radio or television talk show host, website publisher, email news writer/disseminator, then you qualify. AMA members are pro-American. If you are a flaming liberal who wants to compromise America’s national sovereignty, don’t apply. The short answer is: if you are in some way disseminating truthful news for the purpose of educating fellow Americans, you qualify.

Sounds like that's just the organization for Mr. G., although he's not listed as a member. Hm, wonder about how to call up a cache of the site to see if he used to be...

Here's the thing, though: if you're a member, you receive "press credentials":

As a member do I recieve press credentials?

Yes. General and organizational memberships come with credentials. (Orgs receive 2 press kits). There is a additional minimal charge for press credentials (beyond that which is issued) for member pubs who want to credential their correspondents.

http://www.americanmedia.org/faq.php

Since Mr. Blodgett is a member (http://www.americanmedia.org/member_list.php?mid=28), as well as a board member for the organization (meaning he helped create it, according to another tidbit from the site), he has press credentials, even though he is an ADVERTISING DIRECTOR. As low as journalism has sunk, I still don't think that an advertising director is the same thing as a reporter, but hey, maybe I'm just being picky.

[kk897]

68. Yikes! AMA is flagged by Southern Poverty Law Center

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=184

Propaganda
Extremist publications form new association

The American Media Association (AMA) claims to welcome all truth-loving, pro-American publications and journalists. Supposedly, "no left or right political leanings are mandatory."

Yet a look at the AMA Web site belies that claim. Members include the neo-Nazi German American Nationalist Political Action Committee, the anti-Semitic Christian Identity publications America's Promise, Christian Crusade for Truth and Jubilee, and a host of other antigovernment zealots.

The site even provides an update on imprisoned hate crime felon Alex Curtis from white supremacist Vincent Bertollini.

The AMA is a new organization designed to increase cooperation between publications on the radical right. By pooling subscriber and advertiser lists, members hope to increase their distribution base and raise advertising revenue.

[HamdenRice]

69. Thanks for that find -- it certainly fits the ideological profile

that G/G was writing in. Here is more of their self description:

http://www.americanmedia.org/about_us.php

Profile
The America Media Association unites pro-American outlets and journalists with Truth as defined in the 1828 dictionary of the English Language, to Wit: Conformity to fact or reality. Conformity of words to thoughts which is called moral truth.

The American Media Association consists of a cross section of media organizations and journalists who have associated themselves for the purpose of supporting each other in the now dangerous occupation of resisting "establishment" media moguls and powerful globalists interests through publishing the Truth and various subjects and news items.

A publication or media outlet that displays the AMA seal assures its readership/audience that the said media organization is dedicated to reporting news and supplying information based on truth, not veiled truths, deception or distortion of facts but rather, substantiated Truth.

AMA members are Americans exercising their inalienable right to speak, write and publish as they see fit. AMA members generally consider themselves to be patriotic, God-fearing Americans who wish to warn their respective audience(s) of the clear and present danger to our liberty.

LOL!!!!

And yes it is sad that advertisers and PR agencies like TAB now think they can usurp journalism

<edited>

[kk897]

71. Hamden, do you mind me pursuing this angle this way?

I don't know if you feel it's still germane to your own research or not; I can do my own thing, too... Don't feel bad about showing me the door if you do!

[HamdenRice]

72. Please feel free!

I don't own this thread, I just started it. But I hope that we stay somewhat on the course of trying to track down Blodgett/Gannon/Aziz connections.

[frictionlessO]

73. This is a repost of Blodgett/Stone pics,

because for some strange reason the pic I had on this thread of Stone before is gone.

The question Im posing is simple is this the same guy, younger/older???

Roger Stone is the likely Texas ANG false document hand off guy. Heres a good dKos entry that discusses Roger Stone a bit, written by RegenerationMan.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/18/122051/247

heres Blodgett around '79 or so.


heres Stone, not sure how recent.

[HamdenRice]

74. It may be local to your computer

because the Stone picture shows up on both threads for me. But again, the similarity is too weird for words.

[frictionlessO]

75. Oh really? crap Im sorry.

My tinfoil is a wee bit tight today I guess!

[kk897]

86. don't worry, my tinfoil beanie's wearing a hole in my head!

That can be the only logical explanation why I keep running into Boston ultra-Catholic Toastmasters and/or runners/soccer players while researching this stuff. Truly. It's been going on for weeks with me now. Almost every person or place I google comes up with those kind of connections.

Now, if we find out Gannon was Catholic or a Toastmaster, I believe I'd freak right out, as Johnny Depp says in Once Upon a Time in Mexico.

[EC]

79. It shows up

and they are the same person, as far as I can see. Everything is the same, either they are twins or the same...

[frictionlessO]

80. and either way that can spell extremly bad news.

If Blodgett and Stone are in fact the same person with dual identities, both of the identities become seriously suspect in any number of dealings.

[HamdenRice]

81. I thought everything in this thread would be non X-Files

But when I look at those pictures of Bloodget and Stone, I have to reach for the reynolds wrap!

[frictionlessO]

90. Im sorry for that Hamden... your work with this thread is hard and

factual.

My pic thing is mere speculation, and I wouldn't have posted them if Blodgett hadn't been your link. I just figured everyone had blown this guy off in all the different investigation blogs, boards, forums, and threads. So I got real excited when I saw someone else tracking this guy...

Again sorry for bringing in speculation. but thanks for this thread its awesome!!

[HamdenRice]

100. Don't apologize -- I find them ...

frighteningly similar. If we are in a universe of operatives with multiple identities -- eg Guckert/Gannon, Joe Aziz/Aziz al-Taee/Aziz Kadoory Aziz -- I don't see why there could not be a Blodgett/Stone, especially since they both seem to be involved in black ops, far right causes, kinky sex and dirty tricks.

They look exactly the same to me, but then I'm not the best with faces.

<edited>

[merh]

82. The noses are different, the checks are different and the lips appear

to be different, even though the smile one has him stretching his lips so I can't tell for sure.

I don't think they are not the same guy.

Edited to add the older version could be a hair implant and nose job version of the younger.

[frictionlessO]

89. ya know, I've noticed his nose and cheeks and this is what I think

Stones nose is smaller towards the tip but the bridge is about the same on both, cheeks could easily be botox as the lower jowls are again about the same, Stones pic shows them being puffed on the upper portion. The lips are hard to get a good fix on because of the smile in Stones pic. Even after blowing up Stones pic its hard to tell, but theres a similar smirk, sneer to the upper.

So yeah, I sorta agree with you, could still be him with just a wee bit of surgery.

[merh]

91. The hair line on the guy in the younger photo is really receding.

today he would be really bald if he didn't get implants. Hair lines in both photos are too similar and time would not allow that.

Younger one's nose is bulbous in comparision to the older's more trimmed version.

[frictionlessO]

97. His eye color might be different as well. but I gotta tell you Merh

I've had a stronger receding hairline than Blodgett in those pics and for about 15 years now and it hasn't receded much at all, some of us are just born that way:) hehe

As far as the nose thing, thats what I was saying in my first reply back to you. The fact that younger Blodgett has a bulbous nose and that older Stone doesnt only means a bit of surgery could've been done along the way. Again after looking at these pics every night for at least two weeks I find the similarities of the bridges of the nose a bit telling.

However Im still not completely sure its him, then again Im not sure its not... which is probably why Im still bugging people about it.:silly: :crazy:

[merh]

99. Go to the wrinkles thread, either 12 or 13 and you will see how

nonny used photoshop to do the gannon/gosch comparisions. Try to do the same thing with these photos. If you have questions, ask her she is very helpful.

I understand how this can eat at you! :freak:

[bklyncowgirl]

98. Sorry, I don't think it's the same guy

I do caricatures as a hobby and this is my 2 cents worth. Blodget's ears are bigger and lower set. Stone's eyes are closer together. They're similar in hairstyle and that makes them look alike.

[merh]

148. Would you mind if I pmailed you

there are other images I would like your opinion on.
thanks

[bklyncowgirl]

159. No problem. If I can help I will. nt

[merh]

161. Thank you -

please check your pmail when you have a chance. :-)

[HamdenRice]

76. "Joe" Aziz and crack distribution

I don't mean to jump to any conclusions, but when the posts suggest that Aziz was prosecuted for distribution of crack vials, we are not talking about a couple of boxes in a Philly headshop:

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/8684646.htm?1c

In 1993, about a decade after fleeing Saddam's Iraq for America, Aziz was in the electronics business when he was one of 25 people charged with distributing some 100 million crack vials on the East Coat. Prosecutors said that Aziz, who lived in Northeast Philadelphia, was tied to a network run by a Soviet immigrant named Valery Sigal. Most in the ring were immigrants from Russia or the former Eastern Bloc.

<end quote>

According to this article, Aziz was prosecuted for being involved in the distribution of 100 million crack vials. What are the chances you are distributing 100 million crack vials and having nothing whatsoever to do with wholesale drug dealers? Exactly to whom does one sell 100 million crack vials?

[HamdenRice]

83. A possible fed angle

Here in NY, drug laws are very harsh. Is difficult to imagine someone being indicted for being a crack distribution kingpin and getting a slap on the wrist, or someone being indicted as a co-conspirator and getting less than a slap on the wrist.

But Valery Sigal, alleged kingpin, was prosecuted by the feds. Here is a reference by a tri-state russian mafia task force to his sentence:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Ahm0dOHcKHEJ:www.state.nj.us/sci/pdf/russian.pdf+%22Valery+Sigal%22+crack&hl=en

66. U.S. v. Henry Belkin, et al, 93-CR240 (E.D.Pa. 1993) and U.S.v. Valery Sigal, et al, 93-CR241 (E.D.Pa. 1993.) All defendantshave pleaded guilty. On March 15, 1996, Sigal was sentenced to forty-six months in prison and fined $25,000

Note that if Sigal was indicted in 93 his sentece of about 4 years may have included almost 3 years already served.

And Aziz received:

Aziz claimed he didn't know the vials were going to drug dealers. but he pled guilty. He was sentenced to three years of probation, fined $3,000, and forced to forfeit $17,673 in profits.

Why would Philly bottom feeders have the kind of pull to negotiate these sentences with the Justice Department (under Clinton, no less).

[Ferry Fey]

85. Berg connections

So Aziz was at one time a "business partner" of Blodgett, and at another time a business partner of Nick Berg (and the last person to claim to have seen him alive).

Hmm.

The bachelor Nick Berg favored a military-style haircut, and grew up in West Chester, the town where JD Guckert/Gannon went to college.


Lots of raw information on Nick Berg at this thread on Alternet -- the best discussions I have seen -- as well as a fair amount on Aziz.
It's long, but fairly well-focused, and I think that anyone looking into Aziz should explore it.

http://forums.alternet.org/guest/motet?show+-ujUQJd

[kk897]

87. Whoa. Didn't realize the West Chester "coincidence."

That's, um... ummm...

words fail. thanks for pointing it out.

[eridani]

139. Better Alternet link

http://forums.alternet.org/bin/motet?show+-ujV2xD+-ilki,berg+Currents+1099+-25-

[Blue Gardener]

84. Good Work HamdenRice

I've been following the Wrinkles threads with great interest. I'm glad to see another angle being pursued. We need to get to the bottom of the Gannon/Guckert story no matter where it leads.

[EC]

88. I think we should be looking at The Leadership Institute too.

I know many question Wayne Madsen as a source, but I feel he was a victem of a discrediting campaigne, like Rather. I wondered why Ken Lay and the rest of them are really on the slow road to any convictions of any substance.
Anyway, I think we should be looking at the connections meeting at The Leadership Institute.

GOP's many Talons: Did White House S&M ring order special videos from Abu Ghraib?
By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal
February 23, 2005—There are interesting connections between the White House credentialed Talon News Service, owned by Houston-based GOP activist Bobby Eberle, Jr., and two other "Talon" entities. One is investment and management company Talon LLC of Detroit, co-founded by Michael T. Timmis, a major contributor to conservative Republican causes. Talon Equity Partners LLC is an adjunct of Talon LLC. The other GOP-connected "Talon" firm is Talon LLC of Houston, a "special purpose entity" established by the now defunct GOP bankroller, Enron.

In April 2000, Enron and LJM2, a co-investment entity headed by Enron Chief Financial Officer Andrew Fastow, set up Talon LLC. Fastow was later indicted and found guilty of multiple counts of fraud. His boss at Enron, CEO Ken Lay, a close friend of and contributor to George W. Bush, was also indicted and is awaiting trial. The Talon entity experienced a 370 percent annualized return on an original investment of preferred Enron stock and made $41 million for LJM2. Investigators in Houston are still trying to determine what happened to Enron's original profits before its stock tanked. There are suspicions that much of the money ended up in well protected and hidden Bush family and GOP coffers.

Timmis is a major contributor to The Fellowship Foundation, a powerful "Christian" fundamentalist operation headquartered in Arlington, Virginia. The Fellowship has interlocking relationships with the Leadership Institute, also of Arlington, Virginia, where Talon White House correspondent "Jeff Gannon," a.k.a. James Dale Guckert, took a two-day course at the institute's Broadcast School of Journalism. The Leadership Institute, headed by Virginia Republican official Morton Blackwell, counts such right-wing members of Congress as Tom DeLay, Frank Wolf, Sam Brownback, John Ensign, Todd Tiahrt, Charles Grassley, James Inhofe, Zach Wamp, and Joseph Pitts as members of its "bi-partisan" congressional Board of Advisors. The above Republican members of Congress are also core members of The Fellowship. Gannon has been linked to Fellowship members who are active in two northern Virginia churches heavily influenced by the Fellowship: Little Falls Presbyterian Church in Arlington and McLean Bible Church in nearby McLean. Gannon is also linked to Rev. Rob Schenk, the founder of Washington's National Community Church, a Pentecostal congregation that counts John and Janet Ashcroft as members. It currently meets in a movie theater at Union Station in Washington, DC.



http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/022305Madsen/022305madsen.html

[Ferry Fey]

92. 9mm

I recall that in a Madsen article touching on Abu Graib videos, there was mention of using a 9mm gun as part of the abuse.

Gannon fondly discusses his 9mm gun. Is that just a pistol that is ubiquitous with those guys, or is its curious mention significant?

[Frederik]

96. The most common caliber in the world.

All military pistols are 9mm.

[HamdenRice]

102. Priceless photo of Bush and Guckert/Gannon for their Monica moment

A little off topic, but from Bellaciao, here is an archive photo of Bush giving an "abrazo" to G/G
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=5439


Now I'm beginning to believe the rumors that Bush is gay!

[troubleinwinter]

106. it is not gannon/guckert

[Flammable Materials]

108. That man is clearly not Gannon/Guckert. This man is African-American. n/t

[autorank]

133. OK, I love this pic but is it, for sure, Gannon. It is so great.

One broadcast on network news and it's bye bye *...but is it a confirmed Jimmy/Jeff siting in the eyes and arms of our pResident?

[ebayfool]

138. That's not Gannon - I believe this one is, though.

[autorank]

151. HAHA --- * is such a f'ing freak!

[Donailin]

110. now THIS is something one can work with

good job, man.

[starroute]

111. Something more on Blodgett

I don't think this was cited before -- I found it via Google Groups:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.magick/browse_thread/thread/58e46da0e9bb2050/ae8002eac7364787?q=%22todd+blodgett#ae8002eac7364787

Paying the Price

After four years as a player on the radical right, a Washington, D.C., consultant says he wants to come clean

Todd Blodgett, 39, began working in Republican campaigns while still in his early teens, and eventually landed jobs in the Reagan White House press office, the Bush-Quayle election committee and several state GOP campaigns. In 1995, Blodgett says he was approached by Willis Carto, a long-time anti-Semite and stalwart of America's extreme right, and went to work for him as a marketing consultant. In the next four years, he would meet and work with other extremists including the notorious William Pierce, leader of the neo-Nazi National Alliance. After his role as a broker for Pierce was revealed in the Intelligence Report, Blodgett says his world began to collapse. In short order, he approached the magazine hoping, he said, to redeem himself publicly. While he did not disclose all details of his business dealings, Blodgett did offer some revealing glimpses of his former world...

'About a week after the election, I had a job in the press office of the Reagan White House.'

'I worked there until the fall of 1986, when I was offered a job at a marketing firm that more than doubled my salary. I wanted to get more involved in business and marketing. That was also the year I met Willis, at some society reception. He put me down for a subscription to The Spotlight {Carto's conspiracy-minded tabloid}, and from time to time he would call me for lunch, maybe three times in the '80s and probably twice in the early '90s. Anyway, I worked at the marketing firm until early 1988...'

'It became obvious The Spotlight was in real trouble -- advertising revenue was flat, circulation was down, the readership was aging. They didn't know how to promote it. My job was to try to bring the publication back to life. The Spotlight became the exclusive client of my agency; at the same time, I also was a liaison to other populist and racist publications.'

'The Spotlight's editorial direction serves its readership well, but it also precludes it from being able to expand that readership. I mean, Willis will not change. It's like, find a problem, sit in an editorial meeting and find some way to blame Israel for it. The latest issue I saw was blaming Israel for downing John F. Kennedy Jr.'s plane.'

On edit: I found the original source of this quote. It's from another Southern Poverty Law Center article:
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=290

[HamdenRice]

113. I just came across that too -- interesting but full of lies/mistatements

It's a great source because we have a discussion straight from Blodgett's mouth. But there are some glaring inconsistencies and omissions.

Blodgett claims he left the WH in 1986 and left because he was offered a higher salary. My guess is he is trying to sidestep the sex scandal; the Washington Times places him still in the WH in 1989, when the scandal broke.

He claims not to be a racist and his association with the far right neo-nazis is strictly business; but press reports say he was expelled from the University Club, where he did the resistance records deal, for using racial slurs.

He's definitely not a credible guy even when he purports to be "coming clean". Maybe at midlife he is trying to get accepted by respectable company.

But the overall picture Blodgett paints of himself is not of a principal, but of a marginal bottom feeder, which I'm beginning to think is true.

[Donailin]

114. kick.. too important a thread to fall behind

[kk897]

122. well, his being a founding member of AMA puts him in the company

of the lowest form of hate groups.

I've been searching all night and have not found a single bit of credited work of this so-called "TAB Agency" (and a couple of permutations thereof). There's a couple of little listings, and that's it. Gee, do you suppose the guy has so much work handed to him on a silver platter that he doesn't even need to have a web presence? It's just weird. Even evil righty PR company Creative Response Concepts has a website with their extensive list of icky clients (which include the swifties and Lexis Nexis, BTW...ahem). TAB? Uh uh. Not as far as I could see yet. My feeling is that there's no such "agency"--it's just him and he just makes deals with his slimy pals to put together spam schemes or go on phishing expeditions or design hate group websites... or grant press credentials to the completely unqualified. Is this where he gets his dough? AMA membership does cost money. Hm.

In my various googlings tonight I've definitely jumped into some scummy pools... ugh... I need a shower!

[kk897]

166. An interesting little tidbit from that interview is that he

was sent by the RNC to work on two TEXAS campaigns. Hm. Timing here is interesting, too.

He put me down for a subscription to The Spotlight , and from time to time he would call me for lunch, maybe three times in the '80s and probably twice in the early '90s. Anyway, I worked at the marketing firm until early 1988.

That year, I joined the Bush campaign, where I worked as a domestic policy analyst, specializing in what we called "wedge" issues — gun control, welfare abuse, capital punishment, crime — the types of issues conducive to getting working-class whites to either not vote, or vote Republican.

I went on to work for the Republican National Committee, where I was assigned to two campaigns in Texas.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=522

So he was most likely working for the RNC during the time of the callboy scandal. I wonder what the two campaigns in Texas were, and who they were for.

As far as "coming clean," well, his membership in the AMA nixes that entirely. The AMA is full of evil, evil guys, who Mr. B does not seem to mind mixing with.

If Blodgett's a bottom feeder, he's an extremely well-connected bottom feeder. That's the kind of guy who knows a lot even if he's not directly involved with it. That's the kind of guy who might have little to lose by talking--except that in this case, if he did talk, it would probably get him killed. Those AMA guys do not play games (and, of course, neither does the BFEE).

[Ferry Fey]

115. Additions and corrections

You mustn't leave out this classic quote from the end of that passage, where anti-Semite Willis Carto says to Blodgett,

"The problem we have is that everybody on our side is stupid."

ROFL!

I seemed to get a dud link in my Alternet link for the Berg thread. Try this one below and see if it is OK, or go to http://forums.alternet.org/guest/motet?home , click "Currents," and look for the "Killing of American Berg ....Who were the Terrorists???" thread.

http://forums.alternet.org/guest/motet?show+-ujUUEj

[GetTheRightVote]

117. Great linking of all this information, Hurray for you

:kick:

[EC]

118. What about Krempasky?

Astroturf Blogging
I had meant to write about this recently, but The American Prospect just did. Why are so many of the major conservative bloggers already from folks long inside the conservative movement? Indeed, Krempasky could be found teaching this Internet activism course one recent February weekend to about 30 young conservatives at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington. “He advocated that people write from their experience -- and not necessarily as conservatives,” a Democratic consultant who attended the seminar incognito told me. For example, Krempasky told “a conservative firefighter” that he should write about firefighting because that would be of interest to readers. Using that angle, he could build an audience. And if push ever came to shove, he could respond to an online dogfight from the unassailable position of being a firefighter -- and not as just another conservative ideologue. Krempasky then offered to help all the attendees set up their own blogs. “We’re definitely in serious trouble,” said the Democratic attendee.

The tactics Krempasky promotes are directly descended from those advocated by the late Reed Irvine of AIM, whose major funder was, for the past two decades, Richard Mellon Scaife. “Many bloggers and blog readers might not even know who Reed Irvine was, nor understand the debt we owe him as conservatives,” Krempasky wrote upon Irvine’s passing last year. “But that debt is tremendous.” In the late ’80s, Irvine had started the campaign to “Can Dan” Rather, coining the phrase “Rather Biased.” Last fall, Krempasky was operating the main anti-Rather site, Rathergate.com, and using Irvine’s slogan as a rallying cry to organize a vast letter-writing and e-mailing campaign “to contact CBS and express themselves,” as he put it in an interview with Bobby Eberle of GOPUSA, an activist Web site founded by Texas Republicans and now owned by Bruce Eberle (no relation), the proprietor of a conservative direct-mail firm. “Conservatives have operated through alternative media for 40 years, direct mail being the first one,” Krempasky told me, sitting in the food court of the Ronald Reagan International Building as the CPAC wound down. “As far as the Internet goes, conservatives have largely been ahead of the left.”

Also part of the Easongate.com team was La Shawn Barber, who writes a biweekly column for -- again, the name pops up -- GOPUSA and has written for AIM about “the Bush-bashing media.” Working alongside Krempasky and Barber was another site, RedState.org, “a Republican community weblog” registered with the Federal Election Commission as a 527. Krempasky helped found that site along with Senate staffer Ben Domenech, the chief speechwriter for Bush ally and Texas Senator John Cornyn; and former U.S. Army officer Josh Trevino, a conservative blogger who used to write under the name “Tacitus.” The goal of RedState.org? “o unite … voices from government, politics, activism, civil society, and journalism” in service of the “construction of a Republican majority.”

Krempasky is behind the Kos-wannabe Redstate.org, and simply the cyberfront of entrenched right-wing institutions. I'll note for the record (since I'm sure someone will bring it up) that before 2004 I have never worked in anything remotely political, unless you count a mortgage company or a defunct dotcom "political". The same can be said for the vast majority of liberal bloggers, who only now are being integrated into the mainstream progressive movement. It's a substantial difference.

By Oliver Willis at 03/07/2005 - 11:51am | Oliver Willis's blog | 1 comment http://www.oliverwillis.com/amazon/amazon_products_feed-mode-dvd-search_type-DirectorSearch-input_string-Quentin+Tarantino-locale-us.html

[Hissyspit]

119. Wow, now there's a post for you! n/t

[EC]

120. There are just too many people intertwined in this

<snip>

But success bred change. Along has come a new group of bloggers who aren’t mere “citizens” at all. On the left side, some of these became deeply enmeshed with political parties, “527s,” and campaign advocacy groups -- and are now a new generation of no-holds-barred partisans and major party fund-raisers, the liberal equivalent of George W. Bush’s “Rangers” and “Pioneers.” On the right, a number of these bloggers were already political operatives or worked at long-standing movement institutions before taking up residence online. They are, at best, the intellectual heirs of L. Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center and Reed Irvine, who founded the ultraconservative, media-hounding nonprofit organization Accuracy In Media (AIM) in 1969 as part of the first generation of post–Barry Goldwater right-wing institutions. At worst, they're the protégés of conservative fund-raiser Richard Viguerie and dirty-tricks master Morton Blackwell, who has tutored conservative activists since 1965, most recently mocking John Kerry at the Republican national convention by distributing Band-Aids with purple hearts on them.

Which brings us back to Jordan. He was brought down not by outraged citizen-bloggers but by a mix of GOP operatives and military conservatives. Easongate.com, the blog that served as the clearinghouse for the attack on CNN, was helped along by Virginia-based Republican operative Mike Krempasky. From May 1999 through August 2003, Krempasky worked for Blackwell as the graduate development director of the Leadership Institute, an Arlington, Virginia–based school for conservative leaders founded by Blackwell in 1979. The institute is the organization that had provided “Gannon” with his sole media credential before he became a White House correspondent. It also now operates “Internet Activist Schools” designed to teach conservatives how to engage in “guerilla Internet activism.”

<snip>

As Easongate got cooking, the trio quickly reached out to “BlackFive,” a former paratrooper and prominent military blogger in Chicago who declined, in an e-mail interview, to reveal his surname (his first name is Matt). Blackfive brought in Cheryl, a 48-year-old advertising sales representative from southern California who asked me not to use her last name; she gave the group pro bono marketing services and helped to set up a database of CNN advertisers to be contacted. The team even tried to get an active-duty military officer to join their clique. The officer declined.

<snip>

The historical ties connect not only Steffen’s self-destruction and the Jordan takedown but the Gannon scandal as well. GOP operative Blackwell, whose Leadership Institute trained Gannon and employed Krempasky, worked for The Viguerie Company from 1972 to 1979; previously, Blackwell trained a generation of young political operatives in the black arts of politics as the executive director of the College Republican National Committee.


Unraveling L’Affair Gannon


much more> http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewWeb&articleId=9292

[starroute]

121. It should be possible to counter this -- but it will take serious effort

The right has certain things going for it. Money is a big one -- for the last 35 years, a slew of conservative funders have been pouring money into anybody on the right who looked even remotely likely to pay off. Their well-oiled fund-raising machine has also proved able to channel cash into every hysterical right-wing issue that comes along. And the right has been much quicker than the left to pick up on new technology -- like computerized mailing lists -- mainly because it doesn't worry about treating people as numbers.

The left doesn't have any of that. The left works from informed argument instead of hysterical emotionalism. Left-wing writers are stubborn individualists who would feel shamed if they allowed themselves to be turned into to mouthpieces of some wealthy funder or corrupt corporation. And the left follows a humanistic ideal that makes it shy off from certain sorts of mechanization.

On the other hand, all these right-wing advantages were rooted in the very specific social and technological context of the late twentieth century, and that context is in the throes of change. For example, the right wing machine is very good as generating astroturfed letters to the editor. But the Internet makes it possible for the left to detect those replicated letters and make the writers look like fools.

There are several things the left needs to do in order to parlay the new conditions of the 21st century to their advantage:

1) We do need access to sources of money, including both a liberal equivalent of venture capitalists to fund promising enterprises and ways of tapping grassroots enthusiasm to sustain successful voices and projects. This is probably the trickiest part of the equation, because we can't afford to be tainted by the money we accept, either in our own eyes or those of the right. But it is worthy of serious thought.

2) We need to get a step ahead of the right instead of always playing catch-up. This shouldn't be difficult -- they aren't coy about their obsessions, and they've been pushing most of them for thirty years. But we need people to monitor the various groups and causes, figure out where they mean to attack next, have the counter-arguments in hand, and be prepared to counter instantly or even pre-empt them.

For example, we should be out there *right now* defending the ideal of public education, or the right of a community to control its own resources, or getting people fired up about how government is a means by which people can get together to tackle major challenges that none of them could handle as individuals. We shouldn't wait for the next right-wing pushes towards privatization before we start to fight back -- we should be there first, preparing the ground.

3) We need to make allies. We bitch endlessly about the mainstream media. Now those media are themselves under attack. What better time to pick off a few newsmen who actually get what is going on and are willing to take a stand against it as long as someone like us is guarding their back?

4) But most of all, we need to figure out our own strengths so that we can move ahead instead of always being on the defensive. Who are we? What do we want? If we can imagine leaving a genuinely better world to our children, where all the right can see is grabbing off a bigger share of a shrinking pie, there must be ways for us to communicate our vision. If we are motivated by passion where right-wing spokesmen are puppets marching in lockstep, we should be able to make others feel that passion and resonate with it. If we're real human beings and they're just operatives, the intensely peer-to-peer nature of the Net should make that difference apparent.

Television is a cool medium, distant and manipulative medium, where polish and being in control score points. The Net is much warmer, more gonzo, more in-the-moment. Those are all advantages for us. But we have to figure out how to use them.

[EC]

124. First we have to get organized

all the bloggers and progressive websites and now radio should form a communication chain, to work together, to attack together, form a consortium.
Then do like they did, find talent while young, help with their education and promoting into positions. That's what the Republicans have been doing all along (reminds me of communists, where they would find your talent while you're very young, and that is what your education and slot in life would be) but that's how you get a person that is single minded to their individual purpose, and I'm not so sure that is good for the person...

[starroute]

131. No, we absolutely do not want to organize the way they do

As you yourself realize, that kind of mind control is not the way we want to go. (And besides, we don't have another 30 years to put it in place.)

My son keeps telling me that the key word of the moment is "distributed networks," and I believe him. A distributed network isn't top down or regimented. Instead, it's a whole bunch of independent nodes working together towards a mutual goal. It's a totally different model of organization than what the right does, and if we can get it going we will be far more powerful than they are and will also leave them completely bewildered.

Left-wing blogs already form a distributed network. The key is to strengthen that network, provide it with better tools (like more high-powered research) and with better distribution for its results, keep it open to new talent, and extend the model to other areas.

Let the right stick with its old Stalinist model of propaganda. We've got something better.

[southlandshari]

125. Check your inbox

I just sent you some links from the 5/17/04 thread on Aziz via PM - hope they help!

Thanks for your incredible work on this - I think you are on to something very real, and very scary.

[starroute]

130. Do you have the link for that 5/17/04 thread itself?

There was a thread on Aziz back then that I made a bunch of posts to and I think it must have been that one. I was looking for it earlier through Search, and I couldn't come up with it -- just one from 5/19 where I summarized a little of what I'd found. If the 5/17 thread is the one and you could get me the link, I'd be eternally grateful. :)

[southlandshari]

144. LINK TO 5/17/04 THREAD

Here it is:

"The Last Witness to talk to Nick Berg alive"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1615190

[southlandshari]

127. Interesting - Spanish language websites

I did a quick google search on "Aziz Kadoory Aziz" which is either Al-Taee's real name or another alias, and a bunch of Spanish language websites pop up. Maybe it is the same story posted on a bunch of different siges, but I don't read Spanish, so am not sure. Maybe it's nothing - anyone care to take a look?

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-17,GGLD:en&q=Aziz+Kadoory+Aziz

[southlandshari]

128. More Aziz websites

Not much here, but the blurb under the Google search result for this site reads:

American Luxury Limo Home
Web site of Aziz Kadoory This page uses JavaScript, so you need to get a browser such as Netscape Communicator™ 4.0 or later or Microsoft® Internet Explorer ...
www.amerilimo.net/ - 24k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages
-------------------------------------------------

Maybe there is some significance to the address or other info on this page, I don't know...

The website:

http://www.amerilimo.net/

On edit:

another website with the same google description (this one is to a company that has been associated with Al-Taee in the media):

http://tridish.com/

[Straight Shooter]

129. I dismissed the Gannon "wrinkles," but I think this one is tightly wrapped

HamdemRice, you've done some excellent work. Just from a cursory review of your post and the ensuing thread, it definitely has the ring of truth to it. When I saw your reference to Joe Aziz, my "alarm bells" started ringing.

When this many coincidences are revealed, it isn't a random course of events anymore, but instead it's an established pattern. Behind the pattern there is an agenda. Promoting the agenda are people in power.

Again, you have done some brilliant deduction here.

:thumbsup:

[southlandshari]

146. I'd take that as a compliment for sure

since you were one who knew Aziz was dirty "way back when" - I thought you made some very powerful observations on this Aziz/Berg thread nearly a year ago, just after the beheading video emerged.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1615190

Keep it up, HamdenRice and Straight Shooter and all other talented truth seekers! I would love to have a late life career change to either investigative reporter or private investigator, but with a kid to support and many, many bills to pay, now is not the time for a shift for me. So I will add what little I can, and continue to live vicariously through the likes of you! =)

[autorank]

132. HamdenRice...Dude, you're e hot; you're on fire. Please update.

There is just too much trash in the streets of DC for people to ignore much longer. Even CM (corporate media) will need to climb on board soon in order to keep any status it has with the public. Therefore, we need a defining scandal. This one is sooooo messy, it may qualify and emerge through you, HamdenRice, and other forums/blogs.

I think that this is the one that blows up in their face and that blows America's mind!

Great work!

[AuntPatsy]

134. If this is a dupe, I'm sorry, this is all going so fast..

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2005/02/stirring-white-house-honey-pot.html

Which brings us to that Craig Spence fellow.

Spence was a conservative lobbyist during the Reagan-Bush years. The New York Times called him "Washington's ultimate power broker." He was also running a gay prostitution ring which employed adolescent boys. As perks of the job, he treated his boys to after-hour tours of the White House. In The Washington Times of August 9, 1989, Spence "hinted the tours were arranged by top level" persons, including Vice President Bush's National Security Advisor Donald Gregg, whose name also figures prominently in the October Surprise story. The paper added that "Spence, according to friends, was also carrying out homosexual blackmail operations for the CIA."

David McGowan writes that one of the White House tours "occurred just after Spence stopped by the Nightline studio to see his friend, Ted Koppel. Spence reportedly introduced Koppel to a 15-year-old boy, whom Koppel later claimed Spence had introduced as his son. Koppel though had been a close friend for over 20 years and surely knew that Spence did not have a teenage son."

Any wonder why this scandal - a sex scandal, even - died one of the quickest and quietest of deaths? Only briefly, and not everywhere, was it was front page news. As when it broke, on June 29, 1989:


According to the businessman, Mr. Spence told him that the CIA might "doublecross him," however, and kill him instead "and then to make it look like a suicide."

It should probably be noted here that it wasn't until November of that year that Spence's body was found in a Boston hotel room, his death ruled a suicide.

[AuntPatsy]

135. Is it that simple that it is just about illegal underground

business dealings? While surfing the net, I found other names that I thought might be of interest if all this does is involve gay prostitution and drugs being used to manipulate power struggles in our nations highest office as well as in other countries..

I thought this a bit interesting, again, sorry if this is a dupe..

BUSH'S BOYFRIEND Forget the Smear Against John Kerry Victor Ashe Victor H. Ashe was the Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee from 1988 to January, 2004. Ashe was a member of the U.S. Conference of Mayors Executive Committee and a past President of the U.S. Conference of Mayors. Mr. Ashe has been a Fannie Mae director since 2001. He was appointed by George W. Bush. In 1984, then-Democratic Rep. Albert Gore triumphed in the key race for the Tennessee Senate seat of retiring Senate Republican leader Howard Baker, defeating Republican Victor Ashe.

Skull and Bones initiation antics: ....Then the potential candidates perform sexual ceremonies even with some homosexual overtones. Later, they "lay naked in coffins and tell their deepest and darkest sexual secrets as part of their initiation." (Esquire Magazine, “The Last Secret of Skulls and Bones, “Ron Rosenbaum, p. 85) The coffin is full of manure and this takes place in a place called “The Tomb” within the Skull and Bones Crypt.

In the Tomb, their whole sex life and other deep, personal details are completely revealed with shockingly new members engage in homosexual acts while they lay in a coffin. George W. Bush admitted his affinity to the Skulls and Bones in Time Magazine. Bush on Meet the Press: RUSSERT: You were both in Skull & Bones, the secret society. BUSH: It so secret we can't talk about it. RUSSERT: What does that mean for America? The conspiracy theorists are going to go wild. BUSH: I'm sure they are. I don't know. I haven't seen the Web pages yet. RUSSERT: Number 322? It’s known by many sources that George W. Bush in 1968 was performing homosexual acts with his male sex-mate and Yale roommate Mayor Ashe of Knoxville, TN.

While mayor, Ashe made several unscheduled visits to the White House and, according to US Secret Service sources, Bush made at least 8 unscheduled and unannounced trips to Knoxville while he has been President. Ashe is suspected of two arrests. One was in Washington DC and the other was in Atlanta, while he was a Tennessee state legislator. They allegedly involved arrests while he was picking up male tranvestite prostitutes in public restrooms. Ashe was allegedly introduced on live TV as "The gay mayor from Knoxville" at a national mayor's conference in San Francisco. Mayor Ashe also refused to change Knoxville's Gay Street's name to something less, er...., gay.
Victor Ashe was reportedly arrested in an Adams Morgan bar's men's room]. As for Matt Drudge, who has decided to work with Karl Rove to smear John Kerry with tripe about an "intern," this speaks volumes: A book by Jeannette Walls's has an interview in it with a purported former Drudge boyfriend, David Cohen, who recalls that Drudge once hung out with a gay group and "loved to do wild, provocative things to draw attention to himself." A "perturbed" Drudge tells Brett Sokol of the Miami New Times: "I go to bars. I go to straight bars, I go to gay bars. never said there was sex; she said there was dating. She never had enough to go that far."

And as far as K. "Edgar" Rove is concerned: "Washington is awash with stories of Rove's Hooveresque off-hours antics (as in J. Edgar Hoover)." also: "anti-tax activist Grover Norquist is a close advisor to President Bush and Karl Rove. Norquist is a supporter of the Republican Unity Coalition, an ad hoc gay group that supports George W. Bush. Grover Norquist’s best friend is Karl Rove."]]

[starroute]

152. What is it with those College Republican types?

Karl Rove, Lee Atwater, Roger Stone, and Terry Dolan were all leading members of the College Republican National Committee in the early 70's. Grover Norquist was a leader ten years later (at the same time as Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed.)

I've been puzzling for a while over just what is/was up with these guys. Compared to most of the right wing, which seems to be pretty strait-laced in general, these bastard spawn of the Nixon White House seem to be irresistably drawn to sexual hijinks and profiting off of Indian gambling casinos.

What a bunch of low-lifes.

[Garbo 2004]

136. Some very interesting stuff here. Thanks for posting this thread. n/t

[bklyncowgirl]

140. Is there anything which explicitly links Aziz to Blodgett?

You said that TBR News linked the GOP call boy scandal operator (Blodgett) with a Muslim druggie (presumably Aziz). This brings in all sorts of intriguing possibilities but has anyone found anything definite?

[Tesla]

141. Man, this is freaky!!!!!!

I think we need a thread on the Ashe/Bush affair??????
(or did I miss one while reading this one!!!)
http://www.mindprod.com/bush.html

"I'm also most appreciative of the Mayor of Knoxville, Tennessee for being here. I've known Mayor Ashe for years and years and years. And he has done a fabulous job of being a fine public servant in Knoxville. So, Victor, thank you for coming."
~ George W. Bush about the openly gay mayor of Knoxville, Victor Ashe whom he used to live with and who visits often for sleepovers, and with whom he goes on vacations, without his wife Laura. Note the gushy, campy language.
"I want to thank my old college classmate -- you used to call him Bulldog, we call him Victor -- the Mayor of Knoxville, Mayor Victor Ashe."
~ George W. Bush, Van Hilleary for Governor Luncheon, Knoxville, Tennessee, 2002-10-08, Same nickname Jeff Gannon has."



http://www.usmayors.org/uscm/us_mayor_newspaper/documents/07_23_01/ashe_fannie_mae.asp

[Domitan]

142. This is something I can forward to in order to make others think

I would not have done that with the Gannon Wrinkle threads except with those open to heavy-duty speculation. I think you should forward this to other blogs like Americablog.org, dailykos.com, and rawstory.com

[American Marxist]

143. You failed in tying other issues and follow ups........

Why have you failed to follow up on the fact that William D. "Bill" Hodges, a Texas multi-millionaire and son of a billionaire oilman was the actual person responsible behind Talon getting Gannon into the White House in the first place?!
While tucked away at his big ranches in Texas and Oklahoma or his Oklahoma City office, Bill Hodges has struck a deal with Bobby Eberle to purchase Talon and rename it the American Eagle. Clever, huh? From a little financed bird's claw to a highly financed eagle.
Our watchdog group has been monitoring the situation and found out that last month, Bill Hodges has met with the president three separate times. Rumor has it that he has also hired three Washington Times reporters and one Wall Street Journal reporter to help establish his new Bushganda venture. Whats worse is that he offered an assistant editoral position to Guckert. From what we have found out so far, Hodges and our esteemed reselected president is ensuring they can plant a REAL reporter in the White House press corps to undermine the job of the mainstream media.
It also explains why for the last two months Hodges has traveled around in an armed convoy dressed in dark suits.
Also you might have noticed that all the big players in this plot are Texas oil millionaire business cronies of the Bush family and associates of Karl Rove.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, and Hodges are going to end up taking over this country and owning the Middle East oil supplies and nobody is doing anything to stop it! Maybe everybodys been bought off?!

[kk897]

153. Errrrr..."Welcome to DU" AM!

Just a leeetle suggestion. Don't lead off with a post that says "YOU'VE FAILED!!!" Not gonna win friends and influence people that way... but from your sig line I guess that's not a concern of yours.

Still and all, this info on Hodges and Talon ---> American Eagle transformation is most welcome. Thank you for that.

[American Marxist]

165. It wasn't meant in a bad way...........

When I said "you've failed".......you have to keep what I said in context because I only meant the research was not finished.
I was just saying "you've failed tying the rest of it altogether with the latest info". I wasn't insulting anybody. You shouldn't get sensitive because you took what I was saying out of context.
I just think its real important that all of the facts get told.

[hootinholler]

145. kickin it NT

[lala_rawraw]

150. WRITE

This as an article, because until you get it out in that format, it won't make "news" of any sort, sad to say. Can you write it? I will talk to John about publishing it. Or write it and submit it elsewhere, just write it. If you need help, let me know.

[LeahD]

155. Article would be great.

And I thought the Wrinkle threads had my brain in a knot! For those of us who aren't familiar with the players, their histories, it's very difficult to assimilate all of the information. I vote for an article....accompanied by genealogy style chart, or flow chart!

[dmr]

154. Kick!

Thank you, HamdenRice, this just boggles the mind.

I'm saving this to my hard drive.

[treading_water]

156. Kick!

/nt

[Tesla]

158. where did it go??

[HamdenRice]

157. I'm stuck -- I think I'm at a deadend -- Can anyone lend a hand?

I want to thank everyone for their responses, encouragement, tips and information, both in this thread and by PMs. I think many of you are correct, that if we can pin down some of the details here, this is a story the MSM can't ignore. The problems is in pinning down those details. And unfortunately the MSM is so lazy, scared and ideologically biased that they won't touch this unless their work is done for them, and the complete story is pinging around the blogosphere.

Let me explain why this thread is important and contributes a new angle to the G/G story. As I mentioned, most of what I wrote is from other sources, and so is not original. But there is one "step" it makes that in a sense circles the square.

Before this thread, other blogs and MSM outlets had already shown or alleged that there was a gay escort ring in the first Bush WH and that republican officials and lobbyists were involved. These had also alleged or reported that these escort services were used for political blackmail, although they could never pin down whether it was private blackmail (Spence, Lawrence) or whether the CIA was involved (as Spence claimed). MSM outlets had identified Todd Blodgett as being caught up in the first scandal and had gone on to follow his exploits among the far RW. And TRBNews and Cannonfire had made allegations that Blodgett and Aziz al-Taee/Joe Aziz/Aziz Kadoory Aziz had organized a new gay escort/blackmail ring during the Bush II administration.

A whole separate set of blogs and MSM sources had shown that Gannon had been a conduit for Bush II administration propoganda about Iraq through GOPUSA/Talon News. Several had also reported that one of Iraqi "leaders" that GOPUSA/Talon/Gannon relied on was Aziz al-Taee/Joe Aziz/Aziz Kadoory Aziz. Several of these mentioned that Aziz had a criminal past and was connected to the Berg case.

What was new here was the link between Aziz the Iraqi spokesman and conduit of fake Iraqi propoganda through Talon, and Aziz/Bldogett the escort blackmail organizers. If we can prove this point, then we have a full scandal -- namely we have probably cause to assert that Gannon got into the WH because of his connection to a gay escort blackmail scheme. Or to put it another way we have an Aziz-Gannon connection as propogandists, but we don't have an Aziz-Gannon connection in prostitution, even though there are sources that claim Aziz had organized a gay prostitution blackmail scheme.

And an Aziz centered blackmail scheme makes perfect sense because Aziz was part and parcel of Chalabi's group in Iraq, which the MSM has widely reported has engaged in extensive blackmail and extortion rackets as a result of their being given the contract to sift through Saddam's intelligence files. Also the allegation that Blodgett/Aziz had sold gay client lists to the Iranians makes sense because the MSM had reported that Chalabi had betrayed his American sponsors by conveying sensitive intelligence to the Iranians.

So bklyncowgirl in post 140 has it exactly right -- we need the explicit link between Aziz and Blodgett, and confirmation of the rumor that they ran an escort service. And if such an escort service is confirmed, we need more than an inference or a deduction that Gannon/Guckert was an escort in that particular escort service.

Unfortunately, the only source for the existence of a Blodgett/Aziz escort service right now is TRBNews and Cannonfire. If you read all the other web resources that discuss this matter, unfortunately, they all trace back to TRBNews. And reading TRBNews for me reminds me of that scene in Men-in-Black when Agent K explains that he gets his information from the Weekly World News. I suspect there is a lot of real information in TRBNews, but it is mixed in with stuff that's about as likely as "UFOs impregnate Hillary." And Cannonfire's article is basically an interpretation of TRBNews.

So here's I think where this story needs to go. Is there anyway to actually get in touch with TRBNews's Walter Storch and ask what his source for the escort story is? I will try to send an email through the site, but sending blind emails always feels like throwing pennies down a well. Does anyone have any contact with him or Cannonfire?

On a different line of inquiry, I have some very curious information about the drug prosecutions that Aziz was linked to and will probably post them this evening.

[madhat]

160. I'd look into Mark Tapscott

And/or Reginald deGueldre

The latter I can't find a trace of.

But Tapscott -- "resigned" from the WashTimes after the 1989 Bush41 rent boy story -- is still writing and, strangely, seems obsessed with transparency in government. (I don't mind the transparency, but it seems rather ironic for him.)

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/marktapscott/archive.shtml

From his Bio: (I wish I could post the picture)

"Veteran Washington journalist Mark Tapscott originally joined The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Media and Public Policy as manager of media programs to help promote understanding between conservatives and the news media.

Tapscott has been a newspaper editor and reporter since 1985. Before that he was a Capitol Hill press secretary and manager of one of the Reagan administration’s most successful agency public relations programs.

As a managing editor of The Journal Newspapers in the Washington suburbs for the past three years, Tapscott has been a member of the Freedom of Information panel of the Maryland-Delaware-District of Columbia Press Association. His editors, reporters and photo journalists won 31 professional journalism awards during 1997 and 1998, including citations in all major news categories.

Previously, Tapscott was an assistant managing editor for night news at The Washington Times, where he also served as national editor, business editor and investigative reporter, among other positions. He also has been editor of The Federal Employees Weekly News Digest and covered Congress for Defense Electronics magazine.

During the Reagan administration, Tapscott was assistant director of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management where he directed a public relations program that, according to a Washington Post columnist, "would make Liz Taylor’s press agent green with envy." Before that, he was communications director for Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, and a senior aide to two House Republicans.

At Heritage, Tapscott oversees the Media Visitor’s Center, works to establish a series of domestic and international fact-finding tours for journalists, and forges links between Heritage’s Center for Data Analysis and the nation’s top practitioners of computer-assisted reporting.

Finally, Tapscott helps organize a series of issues seminars that allow journalists covering major national and international beats and top analysts representing a variety of perspectives to discuss how important stories are developing. The seminars will also explore ways to ensure balance, accuracy and comprehensiveness in coverage."

[Pastiche423]

163. (I wish I could post the picture)

[kerry-is-my-prez]

162. Is James P. Gannon, the Editor of Des Moines Register related to Gannon?

Check out this quote from him - Sounds like they have the same attitudes.....

http://www.bartleby.com/63/10/8010.html
AUTHOR: James P Gannon, Editor, Des Moines Register

QUOTATION: Every good newspaper is muckraking to some degree. It’s part of our job. Where there’s muck, we ought to rake it.

ATTRIBUTION: NYTimes 10 Apr 85


THEN, he was involved in a few controversies with some Presidential debated that he moderated.

http://desmoinesregister.com/extras/politics/caucus2004/debatehistory.html

The Des Moines Register is once again sponsoring a presidential candidate debate, building on a more than 20-year tradition. The Register has invited the Democrats who have traveled to Iowa in 2003 to participate in a debate Jan. 4, 2004 at 2 p.m. The debate will be held at Iowa Public Television's Maytag Auditorium and will be broadcast statewide by IPTV.

-snip-

1980 - Six Republican candidates participated in the Register debates in 1980, but a seventh, Ronald Reagan, skipped the event, calling it potentially "divisive."

-snip-

The Democratic debate also was controversial. The Register editor then, James P. Gannon, initially refused to invite California Gov. Jerry Brown, saying Brown had not mounted a serious campaign effort in the state. When Brown subsequently opened an Iowa office and scheduled trips to the state, he was invited to participate along with Edward M. Kennedy and incumbent Jimmy Carter.

[overly fluorinated]

184. James Gannon was suspected in the

Johnny Gosch kidnapping, insomuch as he printed Noreen Gosch's private letter to him in Des Moines' newspaper thereby humilating Noreen - not to mention obstructing her search for her son. It is alleged that the missing Gosch boy, now suspected of using the name Gannon, took on that editor's name as it was this same newspaper that the Gosch boy worked delivering papers when he was kidnapped.

http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/print.php?id=13989

"For example, the editor of the newspaper, the Des Moines Register that Johnny Gosch worked for in 1982 was - James Gannon. Now that's amazingly synchronous. Could this be the key to unlocking the Jeff Gannon aka James Guckert identity-op? Could this name game, using the first and last name of that editor to create two alias's be an insider's joke-more proof that James and Jeff are really Johnny Gosch?

It makes we wonder if James Gannon was somehow involved in Johnny Gosch's disappearance. Mrs. Gosch felt betrayed and nonplused by Editor Gannon's perceived lack of support and actual antagonism towards her efforts to find her son. Does this mean we should also be looking for a Jeff Guckert instead of James Guckert? Ha!"

[fromBrooklyn]

187. Related to a Gannon yes,

but "The" Gannon's name is Guckert, remember.

Maybe a better question is,

Who gave Guckert the name Gannon to use, and did that person know James P. Gannon? (Yes, assuming Guckert had never heard of J.P.Gannon, and why would he have?)

[Blue Gardener]

164. Giving this story a kick

I wish I could help with more information.

[Karenina]

167. And another

:kick:

[geek tragedy]

170. You wasted your time posting this stuff. Tbrnews is run by NAZIS.

No sane person should EVER believe what they write.

[oblivious]

173. I think he covered that quite carefully in his OP.

[geek tragedy]

175. Yes. And getting involved in a food fight between two groups of loathsome

Nazis isn't a good idea for progressives. Nothing either side says can be trusted.

[AuntPatsy]

171. In hopes that threads like these as well as personal blog sites

shall not be able to continue in this vein that begs the people to do the job of our lost investigating journalistic network, the push for such information being posted freely on the web is soon to be subject to litigations against any and all daring to voice anything that cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt...

If this group continues is allowed to continue it's covert ways, many will soon be hearing from the law enforcement community knocking on your doors..

What they hope is to stem the availibility of such damaging information reaching the populace as a whole, this leads me to believe that there are some honestly frightened that to much factual information is beginning to leak to a larger audience of Americans, no thanks to the MSN...

By the way, the law wil even reach those who post another's thoughts even if they themselves are not the orginal author...

Enjoy your freedoms of speech while you can, Gannongate is obviously a very real threat, for them now to begin enacting such a grand scheme to deny the voice of truths..

[overly fluorinated]

185. Well, that is damn scary...

Not that I don't believe you, but could you please provide your source for your statement.

[sabra]

172. Great research! Here's a pic of Aziz with Wolfowitz...

[hector459]

174. Too bad the American people are mostly incapable of understanding the

significance of these findings and the MSM too controlled to explain it to them.

Stay safe. And thanks for your work! Amazing!!!

[bobbieinok]

176. wasn't there some info that Berg was a semester or so at the U of OK

and 'was seen with ME types there'???

[bobbieinok]

177. see

http://www.rense.com/general53/911BER.HTM

....

According to Berg, his son was taking a course a few years ago at a remote campus of the University of Oklahoma near an airport. He described how on one particular day, his son met "some terrorist people -- who no one knew were terrorists at the time."

At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer.

"It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know, used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to," Berg said.

Government sources said Berg gave the man his password, which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources said.

The sources said the man who used Berg's e-mail knew Moussaoui, now awaiting trial on federal charges that could bring a death sentence. But the sources would not disclose details of how the men were connected.

....

[seemslikeadream]

178. Here are some Berg LBN threads

maybe there is something of interest, it seems the better ones are at the bottom, there are more


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=547956
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=547236
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=550541
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=550119
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=547830
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=549188
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=547236
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=551805
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=551660
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=551186
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=550095
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=549507
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=550780
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=550573
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=549318
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=549888
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553087
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553143
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552989
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552677
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552645
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=551848
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=549641

on edit more
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553391
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552638
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?
az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552389
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=554749
CBS: Bizarre New Link in Berg Murder (Berg and Moussaoui)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553244
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=554130
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553780
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553287
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=555360
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=555119
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=556034
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=553409
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=547443
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=556131
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=552643
Beheaded man named on Free Republic's "Enemies List"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=551264
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=557156
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=559749
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=559647
EXECUTION: FOUR ARRESTED
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=563009
BERG MET WITH SHADY IRAQI (Berg's business partner was a Chalabi wannabe)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=560487
Berg beheading: No way, say more medical experts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=571473
CNN Breaking: 4 arrested in the Berg Murder (2 released)...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=571514
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=587289
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=590415
Yet another Nick Berg theory. This one is pretty good
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1660616
Berg Video - SMOKING GUN?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1649691
Perkel: Smoking Gun Proof Berg Died In AbG
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1663362
Berg beheading: No way, say medical experts | Asia Times
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1648016


Berg was arrested twice in 2000 for trespassing at Oklahoma U.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1625766

New Berg Conspiracy Theory...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1632358

[bobbieinok]

179. kick

[jazzjunkysue]

180. Keith Olberman: Do it Do it Doit!

[Dangerman]

181. Saddam this and Saddam that!

What about Abu Gharib and the crimes commited by OUR TROOPS against the Iraqi people.

Republican press secretaries are the biggest dumbasses!

[Mari333]

183. kick dayum you guys are good n/t

[fromBrooklyn]

186. Wow. This is dangerously close

to 'journalism'. Well done. Why isn't this thread on the "Greatest" page? I've read all (literally) the "Wrinkles" threads, and this has every bit as much info, in a far more concise format.

This thread has been forwarded to AmericaBlog and etc., right?

Bravo again HamdenRice.

[Goldmund]

188. Posted on jeffgannon.org

Thanks to HamdenRice!

[Catherine Vincent]

189. Any updates?

[Karenina]

190. Kick!

:kick:

[overly fluorinated]

191. Another possible angle

HamdenRice - I really admire your sense of investigation and think you are on to something here. I've been reading your posts and that led me to the Christian Mafia by Wayne Madsen. I can't verify the veracity of the piece, but it rings true to me from other studies I've done. That said, I think the key could be found at the Fellowship/The Family. Seems all the major/minor players are involved with that group, including Aziz. Nothing happens in the world but through this group. There is always a crucible, and gut instinct says that's it.

Not to discourage you, but this is no Hardy Boys' mystery. Be careful, very careful.