"WHERE ARE THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION??"

[trumad]

I remember a couple of weeks after the war I was asking the Repubs I know where are the WMD's. Oh they'd puff out their chests and with a confident tone say, they will be found.

I can't tell you what fun it is to ask them the same question today.

[walldude]

1. We have them all....

Now I'm seeing reports of nerve agents and napalm being used during the Falluja attack. See WMD's are ok as long as it's us that have them....

[bpilgrim]

33. EMPTY WARHEADS FOUND IN WASHINGTON

source...
http://home.earthlink.net/~emptywarheads

psst... pass the word ;->

peace

[anonymous44]

40. lol

funny pic

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Really

Bernie Ward was talking about this and I was so disgusted. :puke: It's disgusting how BushCo go around the world and demand other people give up their weapons but we still have them and use them. I believe it was Napolm that was declared illegal in 1980 by the UN so this explains why the new Bush US embassoador to the UN wants to destroy them (among the other reasons). Plus I earlier on Sundance was watching "Bowling for Columbine" and Moore was pointing out how WE have the most largest factories that make WMD's and use them all the time.

[Stephanie]

2. Silly. The Iraq invasion was about spreading freedom.

George Bush wanted to liberate the Iraqis, out of the good of his heart. And he wants to liberate the Iranians, and the Syrians, and the Venezuelans, and the Cubans, and everyone else who doesn't enjoy the benefits of corporate capitalism - if they have oil.

[underpants]

3. I think have all received e-mails with their talking points

Something about FREEDOM and LIBERTY and how you personally must hate the troops and hope they die (Rush says that anyone who knows the actual US death toll in Iraq really is rooting for the insurgents just to win political points)

[trumad]

5. LOL

They try the talking points but I know these guys well enough that after a minute of reciting them, they crack up. They can't even buy their own bullshit.

[underpants]

7. That is what they lead with now, right?

I've heard the Rush thing more than once on his show.

[FreedomAngel82]

50. Sometimes I wonder about that

I wonder if Rush, Bill and all the others really believe the b.s. or if they're just actors and whatnot. Know what I mean? If they do believe this nonsense they're just as stupid.

[Warpy]

12. How to respond:

POVERTY IS THE WORST WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION

[sacxtra]

4. RIGHT HERE

[Zorra]

21. Great post, thanks. n/t

[Jacobin]

6. Silly. If LordGodBush had wanted to find the WMD's he would have

Since he didn't and only wanted to spread freedom and democracy, that is what he is doing.

Who are you to question Almighty Bush? He works in mysterious ways that the mortal mind cannot fathom, so stop talking about things that are beyond the comprehension of mere mortals/

[stanwyck]

8. My co-worker knows where they are

he told me just today: they're buried underneath all the sand. He was not joking. He believes this. I asked him about Colin Powell standing up in front of the UN with his pages of diagrams and listed locations. Doesn't matter. They're in Iraq. Under the sand.
(last month, they were spirited away to Pakistan and Syria).
Next up, David Copperfield made them disappear.

[LondonReign2]

55. I can do that one better

My ex-boss says that "We found them, we just can't tell anyone about them."

When I pointed out that even Chimpy and Rumfilled admit we haven't found them, he says "They're just keeping it secret".

He wasn't joking. Faith-based belief.

[elehhhhna]

9. They are in hiding with the Italian journalist's auto.

Or they wre raptured by a kind & loving God.

[Ms. Clio]

10. Syria. Iran. Maybe Venezuela.

That's what they tell me.

[LynnTheDem]

45. I get "Syria" too; I mention bush admitted Iraq had no WMD since 1991

That stuns them into silence for awhile. :D

And if Iraq sent bio and/or chem weapons to anyone back in 1991, they were good for nothing more than salad dressing many years ago.

Rightwingnuts really are THE stupidest MFers on the planet. I figure another 8, maybe 10 years, and they'll learn the facts that the rest of America and the entire world already knew some time ago.

[Ms. Clio]

52. But by then will it be too late for the rest of us?

I wonder if I will live long enough to see a true history written of these dark days.

[LynnTheDem]

53. I think it may be a "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" situs

Hey, at least we can say -those of us so far still alive- it hasn't been boring.

[Ms. Clio]

54. But that's an ancient Chinese curse!

"May you live in interesting times."

[LynnTheDem]

56. Good point.

Hmmm.

We're doomed.

[Ms. Clio]

57. Oh, well, it'll be okay just as long as I get to read DU until

they pry the mouse out of my cold dead hands.

[LynnTheDem]

58. February 1, 2006!!! Hubby, our kit, and me; that's the day we are

OUTTA here!!!

Feb 1, 2006 we pile into the car and off to Canada we go! Permanently. :) :) :) :) :)

That's the day hubby is (supposed to) retire from the US military!

[Ms. Clio]

59. Congrats to you and your family--Canada seems like such a sane place

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

So I guess you've already started the process (I read it takes a while and is fairly expensive)?

I often wish I could do the same.

[LynnTheDem]

60. I have Cdn citizenship, so not expensive or long process for us, luckily.

We're soooo COUNTING THE DAYS!!!

:D :D :D

[Ms. Clio]

61. Oh, you lucky folks!

Please don't forget us after you get to the Promised Land!


:toast:

[LynnTheDem]

64. Forget who? Nah, won't forget...we'll set up an underground railroad

Only for bonafide DUers though. :D

[Ms. Clio]

65. Does that mean there IS some sort of DU "orthodoxy?" ;)

But ack, what are the job prospects for a U.S. historian??? I did read a great book about Canadian history many years ago, called The White and the Gold, I think, and I am willing to retrain!

What province are you moving to? Have you ever lived there before?

[LynnTheDem]

66. Well we can't take everyone, so DUers get first dibbs :D

We're moving to Manitoba and yep I lived in Canada for several years. We may move to Victoria, BC after a few years, my home stomping ground. :)

Job prospects for a US historian I have no idea...didn't know there was such a critter, going by what any of my friends know about US history (none). LOL!

[Ms. Clio]

68. How cold does it get in Victoria?

And do you mean your Canadian or your U.S. friends don't know any American history???

[LynnTheDem]

70. Not very; here's pics from last month;

My US friends don't have a clue about US history, lol!

[Ms. Clio]

72. How beautiful--it looks heavenly!

And the temperatures are so mild. Oh, my--just makes me wish even harder that I could move there, too.

As for your U.S. friends not knowing U.S. history, that doesn't surprise me at all. Sigh.

[LynnTheDem]

73. We like it muchly. :)

But first to Manitoba for a few years, as the cost of living and jobs for CFOs are better than Victoria. We could just go to Vancouver, but as beautiful a city as it is, it's pricey to live in and it's just too damn BIG, lol!

Besides, after 6 years living in Texas, I WANT 4 SEASONS including one with snow, dammit! :D

[Ms. Clio]

74. I've never been to BC, but maybe I will take my next vacation there

and check it all out for future reference.

I must say, however, after 20+ years of living in Texas, one of the few--the very few--things I like about this place is the winters--I don't miss snow AT ALL. :D

[LynnTheDem]

75. To entice you...

Vancouver has not only been voted the most beautiful city in Canada, it has also been voted the number one city in the world to live.

http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/explore/vancouver/cities/vancouver.htm

Vancouver, just north across the Canada/USA border from Seattle, is consistently rated as one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

http://www.thetimesharebeat.com/specs/spec69.htm





The mountain backdrop and harbour front setting of Vancouver make it one of the most beautiful cities in the world

Vancouver has had the honour of being named the world's most liveable city...
http://www.cathaypacific.com/chl/eng/destinations/0,,77258_76928_eng,00.html



















Packed yet? And can you stop and pick me up on the way? :D

[Ms. Clio]

76. Lynn, those photos are stunning, thanks so much for posting them

Just let me call the pet-sitter, and then we're off. :D

[LynnTheDem]

77. Now I'm homesick.

Oh well...11 more months! :D

[rzemanfl]

11. Vanished. Just like the car the Italians got shot in, the anthrax

killer, Osama Bin Laden, the person who outed Plame, three million Kerry votes and most of our civil liberties. Welcome to BushWorld.

[rzemanfl]

62. Forgot to list the budget surplus. n/t

[WoodrowFan]

13. they found them

that's what they claimed during the CPAC confence on CSPAN last week. Apparently the * administration is in league with the "liberal press" to hide this fact. :eyes:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. They're in the White House... n/t

[OneBlueSky]

15. BushCo is bombarding Iraq with them . . .

they're known variously as depleted uranium weapons, cluster bombs, and white phosphorous weapons . . . seems that since we couldn't find any, we just brought our own . . .

[screembloodymurder]

17. But wasn't it the Saudis who attacked us?

Don't they have a King? Why didn't we go in and free those poor wretched Saudi women? You know the ones the King likes to have stoned.

[screembloodymurder]

18. But wasn't it the Saudis who attacked us?

Don't they have a King? Why didn't we go in and free those poor wretched Saudi women? You know the ones the King likes to have stoned.

[renegade000]

16. but its not about WMD its about spredin' freedom!!!

:think:

[Zorra]

19. They were destroyed in the 90's. Geez, trumad, even B*sh knew that

years ago.

[B Calm]

20. The right-wingers should have known 10 minutes into the war that

there was no WMD's. Egads whats the purpose of having WMD's if you're not going to use them against an invading army? That right there should have been a wake up call to the wilfully ignorant. But no instead they chose to believe even a more ridiculous argument that Saddam moved them. Why would, he had moved them? Was he saving them for a rainy day? I never knew a republican that uses common sense. How stupid do they have to be to continue to believe this filthy administrations’ crap? First off even the giggling killer (Bush) would never had sent our soldiers into Iraq if he thought there was a chance they would use WMD's against us. Look at all the countries we avoid because they do have WMD's.

[porphyrian]

22. They're with the people responsible for the anthrax letters. - n/t

[onethatcares]

23. if you'd like to see a list

I'd have to send you to another boards' political section. Is that allowed? Seems the rw has a column that's cirulating and no link is supplied . Serious. It was written by a guy named "Randall Hoven", mainly an opinion piece but the rws' on the site think it's manna.

[LynnTheDem]

46. These rightwingnuts are calling bush-god adn Cheney-lord LIARS???!!

Wow, I'm stunned!

They do know that bush & Cheney have both admitted publicly that Iraq had no WMD and no capability to produce WMD since 1991?

[Name removed]

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[bushcrab]

25. According to the MF'er filling in for Tony Snow today

I flip over to "Lie Radio" during breaks on Air America when I drive home from work. Today's guest Liar told the sheeple that, "The Iraq War was not about WMD's. It was about fighting terrorism. Anyone who tries to tell you anything different is flat out lying."

This about sent me into APE SHIT mode, and I'm glad that the car in front of me wasn't wearing a W'04 sticker. I'm so close to snipping AM antennas from those fuckin' idiots, you know, as a compassionate intervention.

[Deja Q]

26. Last I heard, Saudi Arabia was looking to Russia to buy some.

Why not the US? Our country spends far more money for weapons than the rest of the world combined. Aren't ours good enough?

[DistressedAmerican]

27. That Is Just What I Went Out To Ask On Election Day.

I figured give them one last reminder while driving to the polls.

FYI - It doesn't take a crowd to make a statement. This shot was local press. The cars were honking their asses off. Better yet, the Reds couldn't do their usual honk and flip you off routine without adding to the sound of disgust for the Chimp.

[Tiggeroshii]

28. Didn't you hear? They're in SYRIA!

...Or Iran or something... PREPARE FOR:

World War 3, as the US arrogantly attempts to take over the middle east and the world to spread liberty, freedom and DEMOCRACY! Just remember, Big Brother's watching you!

and stuff.... :eyes: :eyes:

[Redstone]

29. They're buried with Jimmy Hoffa.

Redstone

[Auntie Bush]

30. The WMD are walking around the White House and the Pentagon.

[mmonk]

31. In Syria I think.

Or is that Tikrit? Iran next probably.

[tinonedown]

32. But they WERE there

Yea, so was the Easter bunny.

[Kadie]

34. Saddam was the Weapon of Mass Destruction

Don't you remember them saying that?

[LeftHander]

35. All to serious of question....

That no one seems to care to ask W.

The media doesn't ask.
The american people refuse to ask.
The soldiers don't dare to ask.

It has made me sick for over a year.

Where are the weapons?

[Me.]

36. With ***H

MIA

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

37. That is a very serious and important question,

one that screams out to be answered, especially after the Bush Administration announed their decision to stop searching for the WMD.

My theory is that we destroyed them intentionally after the first Iraq War and that we covered this up. Soldiers returning from Desert Storm complained of Gulf War Syndrome, a health condition that the Pentagon and VA refused to acknowledge. In the mid-1990s, Senator Reigle and the Reigle Commission investigated Gulf War Syndrome. Their nearly 600 page report opens with an Introduction that states:

"...In October 1992, the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, which has Senate oversight responsibility for the Export Administration Act (EAA), held an inquiry into the U.S. export policy to Iraq prior to the Persian Gulf War. During that hearing it was learned that U.N. inspectors identified many U.S.- manufactured items exported pursuant to licenses issued by the U.S. Department of Commerce that were used to further Iraq's chemical and nuclear weapons development and missile delivery system development programs.

On June 30, 1993, several veterans testified at a hearing of the Senate Committee on Armed Services. There, they related details of unexplained events that took place during the Persian Gulf War which they believed to be chemical warfare agent attacks. After these unexplained events, many of the veterans present reported symptoms consistent with exposure to a mixed agent attack. Then, on July 29, 1993, the Czech Minister of Defense announced that a Czechoslovak chemical decontamination unit had detected the chemical warfare agent Sarin in areas of northern Saudi Arabia during the early phases of the Gulf War. They had attributed the detections to fallout from coalition bombing of Iraqi chemical warfare agent production facilities..."

The Reigle Commission tried to subpoena records from the Department of Defense to determine if there had been any discoveries of Saddam's WMD following the close of the First Gulf War. The government issued contradictory statements, that records of weapons destruction were not kept, or that if kept, they were classified.

In 1997, the CIA issued a long report entitled "Khamisiyah: An Historical Perspective On Related Intelligence." In that report, the CIA finally admitted that US troops had found sarin-tipped warheads at the giant weapons depot of Khamisiyah inside Iraq and that they had destroyed them in the closing days of Desert Storm. They have only admitted to one weapons bunker. My guess is that covert ops were all over Iraq after Saddam's army was crushed in Desert Storm. I don't see how the US military would have blown the opportunity to disarm Saddam, even though they didn't take him out. My belief is that weapons and technology sold to Iraq by private US companies, pursuant to US Department of Commerce Export Licenses (identified in the Reigle Report) were identified by US covert ops and kept secret, because of embarrassment to the Reagan/Bush Administrations. Furthermore, the massive destruction of Saddam's WMD arsenal was kept secret because it contaminated our own unsuspecting troops in the Gulf region following the Desert Storm conflict (i.e. "we gassed our own people"). My guess is that these records exist somewhere in the archives of the Pentagon and that Bush knew that we had destroyed much if not all of Saddam's arsenal. The lie was perpetuated to prevent soldiers from filing massive disability claims. Later, Bush exploited it as the only possible way to drag the United States into a bogus war.

That is what I believe; a massive cover-up that may be the cover-up of cover-ups. It think your question is a very serious one and should be pursued by an investigative reporter.

[Rapcw]

38. There in the East West North South n/t

[RetroLounge]

39. They keep telling me they moved them

and I ask, HOW???

The last time they said some shit about ships off of some island.

I just say, if we knew it, why did we allow it?

RL

[jojo54]

41. * is still looking for them in the W.H.

[Must_B_Free]

42. The Freeps I talk to claim we found them.

they keep saying reader the Lord Butler report.

[LynnTheDem]

51. There the freeps go again, calling bush & Cheney LIARS! Are they allowed

to do that???

Hey FREEPS ya stupidest MFers on the planet, your bush-god and cheney-lord already publicly admitted Iraq had NO WMD and NO CAPABILITY to produce WMD since 1991.

Aren't you just the big DUHHHHS! LAUGHING at ya! As is the entire planet.

[sphincter]

43. Not sure where they are

...but I'm pretty sure Clinton had something to do with the disappearance of them, since he is the root of all other evil in the world....:eyes:

[paineinthearse]

44. Rep. Sam Johnson said they are in Syria

& he'd personally take care of them.

"Syria is the problem. Syria is where those weapons of mass destruction are, in my view. You know, I can fly an F-15, put two nukes on 'em, and I'll make one pass. We won't have to worry about Syria anymore."

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3219008

[FreedomAngel82]

47. I agree

Remember when Rumsfeld said he knew EXACTLY where they were? In Baghdad? Yeah, that worked out.

[Behind the Aegis]

48. THEY ARE THERE!!!

At least according to Negrodaumus (Dave Chapelle Show)! He said..."The reason * is so sure that there are weapons of mass destruction is because he has the receipts!" :evilgrin:

BTW..if you haven't seen "Black Bush," you are missing out!!! It is on the web!!!

[mbee]

63. The WMD are going to be used by the administration

to destroy Social Security. They are the WMD's because everything they touch is destroyed!

[The Straight Story]

67. Do you really care? Does anyone on DU care really? Here is why I ask

I remember reading this board back then (prior to my signing up). One of the main things I found perplexing was the following I elicited from threads on the whole thing:
"If bush finds WMD it was because he planted, if he does not find them it was because he lied"....

So let me pose this question- If they were found, would you (I mean du'ers in general) care or would simply shift gears and say he planted them? SO WMD are not the real topic deep down at all.

Now we have super man bush, the master of conspiracies (according to some, not all of course) who could have simply planted one wmd and never did. Had he found some we would have felt he lied anyway.

So I am lost as to where the truth lay. Is he an idiot, was he duped (as clinton and others were over the last X years by intel reports), did all this go into some master plan to make him look bad, and so on....

[donheld]

69. The WMD's are located here

[Unforgiven]

71. I'll tell ya where

they're in the bumper sticker on the back of my car that says:

Honk if you have weapons of mass destruction.