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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:24 PM Original message |
ATTN anti-BBV activists: DIEBOLD SHUT ME DOWN |
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Clete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. This is bad, isn't it? |
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incontrovertible (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. DMCA |
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Vadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Please translate for us: DCMA |
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OldSoldier (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 05:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. DMCA = Digital Millennium Copyright Act |
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jackcgt (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. What, protecting one's copyprotected intellectual property? |
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Clete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 12:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Votes are copyprotected intellectual property? |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
70. The votes are not... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 03:00 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. These files are NOT source code. |
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Wonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. Um, you might want to edit out some of your personal info from that post. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I think I'm okay - nothing here besides my already-public email address. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. This is fascinating, because if there were every a public interestti |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Has Anyone Put These Files on Gnutella? |
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angka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
64. allegedly. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I want to repeat for emphasis... |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. There's another way to look at it |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. But nobody is allowed copyright protection to hide how crappy their shit i |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. Are you an attorney? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 11:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Sec. 106. - Exclusive rights in copyrighted works |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Note also that Diebold's defense to Hopkins/Rice was that |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Yeah, good point. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. 17 USC 107 -- fair use exceptions |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 12:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Actually, on #3 you would be incorrect |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Copyright inures to each individual work. #3 d/n mean "entire collection" |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-13-03 10:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
96. IMPORTANT: I'm not sure now how this applies |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-13-03 02:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. DAMN GOOD POINT. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-13-03 09:14 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I've been persuaded otherwise. |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 12:25 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. offshore servers? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Berne Convention. Most nations have signed the treaty and would |
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incontrovertible (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. It IS DMCA |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think the last claim (number 3) is trying to lay the groundwork |
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incontrovertible (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. trust me, I sympathize |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 12:24 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. What do you think would happen if a state hired a security consultant |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:51 AM Response to Reply #34 |
43. You'd have to look at the contract with Diebold. |
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John_H (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 11:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
73. Looks like we know what we need to do folks! |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. So they claim copyright ownership in an election file? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 09:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. actually, a collection of facts can be copyrighted (like a phonebook) |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. So technically they may be guilty of infringement |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. That's not what I'm saying at all. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. 'circumventing their legitimate market' |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:04 AM Response to Reply #20 |
48. Granted, fair use is vague. However... |
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Mechatanketra (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. A phonebook copyright doesn't apply to the phone numbers. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:54 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. The UK and a bunch of other countries have "data base rights' |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 05:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
81. There is no database copyright law in the US (yet) |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
47. The Freedom Of Information Act should kick in, or has it been repealed? |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:09 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. These files were on Diebolds server. These aren't gov't documents |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 04:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Thanks for the inspiration. |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Don't forget Slashdot! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 06:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
82. Fair use has not, as far as I know, |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 07:30 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. Eloriel, the extent to which something is copied is one part of the test |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 07:58 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. MY POINT IS re Poem |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 08:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Eloriel, take a breath, forget about Dean, and turn off your caps. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 08:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Oops. One more second. |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 04:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Actually, a collection of facts such as a phone book CANNOT be (c)'d |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:41 AM Response to Reply #53 |
67. You can't photocopy or scan the pages of the Yellow Pages |
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sybylla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 11:02 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. This applies here too. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. There she is--what happened with your challenge, DA? |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. We're still waiting for Georgia to produce |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
38. LOL |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:31 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Early voting in 12 precincts in Los Angeles county - using DRE machines. |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. Zhade -- I'm sorry to hear it. I am meeting with |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. As noted on my mirror, I'm committed to this work. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Bev - what happened with DemActivist's challenge? |
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creativelcro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
75. lawyers |
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LightTheMatch (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
16. PM Me. |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
26. Diebold's Property? Diebold's Property?...FUCK DIEBOLD! |
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Andy_Stephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 08:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
91. I agree 100% |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-11-03 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Use" ???? |
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symbolman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
37. Go here now |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
42. FOLLOW-UP: Jim March's letter to Diebold |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 01:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. LOL, ya think Jim's just a little bit angry? |
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Vadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I just sent an email to Jim asking for his hand in marriage! |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 06:41 PM Response to Reply #51 |
83. Damn. Beat me to it. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:20 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. People, don't ever send letters like this until you've really talked |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 04:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I saw a couple of no-nos in that letter, too. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:44 AM Response to Reply #54 |
68. By the way, with fair use, you have to begin from the position |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 05:57 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. I am sure he has talked to his lawyers... moreover.. |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 09:01 AM Response to Reply #42 |
59. Regarding getting Jim back on DU |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. What did he do that |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:50 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. He spent too much time trying to protect our right to vote.... |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 11:05 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Hmm, well we can't have that can we... |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 04:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Don't hold your breath.... |
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BevHarris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 04:44 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Look, gang -- This is DU not Vote Central -- I don't object to the ruling |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. It's just a shame that he can't be here. DU needs his voice on this. |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 06:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
84. Well, I sure hate to defend an answer like that -- but I can |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 03:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
78. Right the f*** on!!! |
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incontrovertible (643 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 08:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
88. Mr. March: Sue THEM |
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shirlden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 06:34 AM Response to Original message |
57. Keep kicking |
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Nlighten1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
58. Put these files in Kazaa |
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JenBryan (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
60. Confidentialness of DMCA Complaint |
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DEMActivist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:16 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Welcome to DU Jen!!!! |
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JenBryan (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
66. DMCA Stuff |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 02:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Thank you for weighing in, Jen. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
61. Holy shit - |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
74. kick |
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Vadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 07:32 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. kick |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-12-03 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
93. This thread rocks |
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WaterDog (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-13-03 04:45 AM Response to Original message |
94. Kicky kick kick |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-13-03 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
95. bounce |
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