We should attack Venezuala and kill Hugo Chavez. US is #1 Venizuela is 0

[Renew Deal]

Woo hoo!!! Kill 'em all :nuke:

By Adam Teiichi Yoshida

<snip>
However, I do have one idea. It’s a simple one: a naval blockade combined with air strikes. If the United States can’t have Venezuelan oil, than no one can. A relatively small force of the US Navy would be fully capable of cutting off any oil shipping on the part of Venezuela. US Aircraft, even tactical aircraft based in the Continental United States, would be able to destroy that nation’s air force and then, thereafter, hit at will targets of opportunity. At the same time, the US could work with other nations in the region to deploy forces in order to effect a regime change. Perhaps we might even manage to develop a made-in-Venezuela solution to the problems.

At the same time we must, of course, look for other options, short of war. In particular, we ought to consider the possibility of covert action.
<snip>

At the same time, other possibilities should be looked at. With his covert support of FARC, Chavez is practically waging war against Colombia. Perhaps they would return the favor.

Ultimately, we must be prepared for action and disdain passive measures. Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela is a dangerous and rogue nation. Worse still, it’s a nation with the capacity to harm the United States.

Any nation which attempts to withhold its resources from the United States for the purpose of sabotaging the American economy should be attacked and forced to acknowledge its inferior position.

http://www.therealitycheck.org/GuestColumnist/ayoshida030505.htm

[Wat_Tyler]

1. "We should?"

Adam Yoshida is from British Columbia. Does he mean Canada should invade Venezuela? ;-)

[wtmusic]

5. They just might get their ass kicked

It would be an interesting confrontation

[sniffa]

2. what the fuck!!!?

man, who is that guy?

[cthrumatrix]

19. we get as much oil from Chavez as we do from Saudia Arabia

[anarchy1999]

20. My thought exactly! Good God! I didn't even read the whole article,

all I did was read the posts. This man is for real? Quick research needed to find who he is being paid by and who he really is working for!

(Wink, wink, get the drift, whose payroll is he on?)

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. Adam Yoshida.

A Canadian, of all things. Hard to believe.

The man needs to have a constantly running conveyor belt and hydraulic ram administering thorazine suppositories, 24/7.

[UdoKier]

56. Yeah. I hate that motherf**k. Makes Michelle "Malkin" Malagang...

look sane by comparison.

If there is such a thing as karma, they will both be born as Japanese Americans in 1935 and interned for being possible traitors for the duration of the war.

Funny, these two "prominent Asian commentators" don't do a lot of speaking engagements here in the heavily Asian SF Bay Area...

[bryant69]

4. What the hell?

ANy country which withholds it's resources from the United States should be attacked? Holy crap.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[Toots]

18. New Bush* Doctrine in a nutshell

:shrug: should we expect any less from this Cabal and it's sycophants?

[0007]

22. Tis hard to believe the mentality of such an asshole.

[Ironpost]

33. Bryant69 am I being paranoid here or is there something in this

thread that scares the shit out of me. no enemas needed here.

[Renew Deal]

36. Something's not right.

No one here is advocating this position. This is an article that shows the lunacy of some wingnut.

[Ironpost]

37. Thank you

[DemonFighterLives]

6. Gosh, he needs to be in dubby's cabinet

Such well thought out diplomacy measures. :eyes:

[Vladimir]

7. I love Yoshida

for his totalitarian brutality. After the election, he said that not only shouldn't republicans try to have a dialogue with the democratic party, they should "curb-stomp the bastards". Maybe I have a sick sense of humour, but I found that hilarious. Put it another way, at least the guys is honest in saying what 99% of republicans think. He cracks me up...

[Athame]

8. Jeez! I thought this was (dangerous) satire, but

the site is for real! Is this the beginning of the Mighty Wurlitzer on Venezuela? Stop the world, I wanna get off!!

[xpat]

13. Ain't gonna happen any time soon

Fortunately, our boys are tied down in Iraq, and there's no spare cannon fodder to invade Venezuela with, nor Iran, for that matter.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

43. Is this the beginning?

Uh, the guy is nothing more than a Canadian blogger. How is he going to decide the beginning of ANY American foreign policy? LMAO..

I'd have as much effect by going on my blog and writing "George W. Bush, retire NOW and give the reigns of government to Dennis Kucinich -- and turn off the Chemtrail machines, NOW!"

[Career Prole]

9. Hey Adam...what if a nation withholds resources from the U.S.

simply because it's become a nation of a$$holes?

Does this same statement apply to a general strike by U.S. labor (my wishful thinking), since labor is also a resource? We're not a nation, per se, but we could put a stinger on the American economy too, y'know.

"Any nation which attempts to withhold its resources from the United States for the purpose of sabotaging the American economy should be attacked and forced to acknowledge its inferior position."

[robbedvoter]

10. Yeay! I bet they are full of WMD and in dire need of democracy too!

[Frederik]

11. Bring it on

[Frederik]

12. At least the honesty is refreshing

"The coup, of course, has been the traditional American means for getting rid of Latin American leaders who forget their place in the natural order of things. This was already tried against Chavez in the spring of 2002 and horribly botched."

[xpat]

16. Another Latin American satrap has thrown in the towel

Carlos Mesa, president of of Bolivia resigned this morning under pressure from the Movement Toward Socialism. The more I think about it, the more I am beginning to believe the Bush, as he repeated ad nauseum in the recent speeched, is bringing freedom and democracy around the world. It's just not what he expected it to be.

http://news.google.com/?hl=en&ncl=http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,12477450%25255E401,00.html

[ikri]

14. Doesn't mind contradictions does he

Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela is a dangerous and rogue nation. Worse still, it’s a nation with the capacity to harm the United States.

US Aircraft, even tactical aircraft based in the Continental United States, would be able to destroy that nation’s air force and then, thereafter, hit at will targets of opportunity.

So according to his deranged mind, Venezuela is soooooo dangerous that aircraft from the US could destroy their air force & pretty much anything they want to.

Just how exactly is Venezuela dangerous to the US? (other than providing a good example of a popular and successful socialist government)

[Frederik]

15. I think he hinted at that

It apparently has to do with a sticky black substance found underneath its soil... But of course, a popular and functioning soacialist government is a perception management problem of massive proportions.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

44. Ha, hilarious.

Venezuela is a dangerous and rogue nation -- why? Well, no real reasons given.

So, since they're so dangerous and rogue, America should bomb the fuck out of 'em for no real reason. Just because -- well, they're rogue and dangerous, and America... isn't.

:eyes:

IDIOT!

[SmokingJacket]

17. These people are pushing the sanity envelope.

I'm looking forward to reading my grand-children's history textbooks with quotes from these loonballs.

"But grandma, why didn't people try to stop them?"

"We tried, darling... we tried."

[leveymg]

21. Yoshida deserves a full-boat Kermit Roosevelt scholarship

Just listen to his reasoning about what went wrong with the 2002 Caracas quarter-coup:

In terms of ability and willingness to cause widespread harm to the United States, Chavez may be the single most dangerous enemy that America has today.

So: what is to be done? The coup, of course, has been the traditional American means for getting rid of Latin American leaders who forget their place in the natural order of things. This was already tried against Chavez in the spring of 2002 and horribly botched.

There were three major reasons for the failure of the coup, in my view;

First: though the plotters successfully captured Chavez they, for some insane reason, failed to immediately execute him. This, of course, allowed him to resume power once the plot had collapsed.

Second, the plotters failed to dispose of other major regime figures, most notably the Vice President.

Finally, action taken to suppress protests after the coup were weak and half-hearted. It may be politically incorrect to say so, but a coup isn’t a tea party: people have to die. I discuss this simply as a means of pointing out that I’m not entirely sure if there are people in Venezuela willing to launch a coup who have the courage to carry it through to the finish.

Send that boy a first-class ticket to Langley for basic training. Then give him a great big bag of money and set him loose in South America. After a little seasoning, he'll be ready for Tehran Redux. Are you listening, Porter? Or, is this too above your pay grade?

[rman]

23. Except that Venezuela doesn not withhold resources from the US.

Yet another RW lie.

[Bridget Burke]

24. Yes, but they want MONEY for their oil.

Chavez would also prefer we not overthrow him again. Or try to kill him.

Picky, picky....

[Straight Shooter]

25. Everything exists in a vacuum for people like Yoshida

No action has consequences, whether immediate or long-term. Neighboring countries do not matter, nor does the reaction of the world. The peons, who suffer the most, don't matter either.

Reagan fallout. The egocentric megalomaniac attitude continues. Meanwhile, payback is rocking on its heels, waiting for just the right time to apply its lesson.

I would leave this country, but I have friends here and I'm sticking with them through thick and thin.

[Lautremont]

26. This absolutely has to has to has to be some kind of gag.

It's the kind of thing I might do if I became sufficiently motivated one day: take existing rw positions and amplify them only slightly into the realm of the actively insane instead of the merely deluded.

Anyway, real or not it's a fine thing to be able to point at and say "Those people are nuts!" or else just make the "crazy" motion with our index fingers pointed towards our temples.

[Wat_Tyler]

28. There is one theory about Yoshida.

That he is a very-deep-cover left-wing mole.

[Lautremont]

29. I'm going to throw my lot in with that theory, I think.

I was going to say "nobody could be that crazy for real," but of course that statement is disproved by, among many other things, the briefest glance at Freak Republic.

But this Yoshida article hovers pretty neatly at the hysteria level I would pitch such a thing, if I were hoping to bait the right-wing doorknobs of the world in an attempt to make them look more ridiculous than they already do.

[leveymg]

58. Have you read some of the J. Birch Society stuff from the 1950s?

They said that the Russian Communists were the creation of Eastern Establishment bankers, that the Cold War was a pretext to create an American police state and world empire, and that the Dulles Bros. had brainwashed Eisenhower.

I think Yoshida is an old-fashioned Bircher, perhaps without realizing it. The ends of the spectrum almost touch.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

27. Wow! I am at war with the United States!

By choosing to eat at McDonald's local competitors when the urge for junk food strikes! Wow! :wow:

Please, Bush, don't bomb me! :scared: </sarcasm>

[DoveTurnedHawk]

30. Bleachers, I Love Ya, But

Why give publicity to this no-name, know-nothing POS?

DTH

[Renew Deal]

31. I thought it was funny.

It just shows the intellectual depravity of the republican party and it's clones.

[Ironpost]

32. Bleachers7 where the HELL are you coming from

Hugo Chevez needs no guidience from you or me. What the fuck over.

[Renew Deal]

35. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Did you read any of the article? Have you read any of the posts? :argh:

[Tactical Progressive]

34. That has to be tongue in cheek

"... should be attacked and forced to acknowledge its inferior position."

That's just too caricaturish.

[Ms. Clio]

41. Or you could actually look at his blog

And read his previous work, before drawing such a conclusion.

From his blog:

Freedom, it would appear, is contagious. Whether or not democracy triumphs in the Islamic world today or tomorrow or in ten years, it seems certain to me that President Bush’s declaration of the Freedom Doctrine on January 20th, 2005, combined with the Iraqi Elections of ten days later will forever be remembered as the time when the tide turned in favor of freedom and tyrants were, at long last, truly held to account.

Of course, it isn’t these things along. It’s an atmosphere of liberty which is toppling one wobbly tyranny after the other.

Freedom is on the march and tyrants fear the sound. We live in a world where the people rule. The brave people of the Palestine, Afghanistan, Iraq, Ukraine, Georgia, and Lebanon are showing us the way. And they’re doing it for one reason: they know that the most powerful nation in the world is a friend of freedom.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

38. Holy Christ, what a psycho.

"There were three major reasons for the failure of the coup, in my view;

First: though the plotters successfully captured Chavez they, for some insane reason, failed to immediately execute him. This, of course, allowed him to resume power once the plot had collapsed."


I'm thinking of one person worthy of execution right now, and it certainly isn't Hugo Chavez.

[Jose Diablo]

39. What is Chavez doing sitting on our oil?

<with sarcasm>

[yodermon]

40. Satire.

Either this piece is satire, or the writing of wingnut of views so extreme that they immediately satirize themselves upon consumption (much like the entity known as Ann Coulter)

Either way, great article.

[Ms. Clio]

42. Well, it's not satire

But he certainly rivals Ann Coulter in wingnuttery.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

45. Not satire at all.

You'd think so, considering this guy is a Canadian blogger who acts and speaks as if he's actually American (ie. writing that "we" should attack Venezuela).

And what neo-con/right-wing nutjob would admit to coups in Latin America?

But this guy has been doing this for a while. He's been published on right-wing sites. I'm sure he's real.

[charlie]

48. No, not satire

Neither Adam nor his articles are welcome at Free Republic because... wait for it... they're too extreme. Really.

I've oftened wondered how the senior Mr Yoshida feels about his boy's numerous calls for internment and interrogation of citizens of "foreign" extraction.

Adam has that LaRouchian megalomania and capacity for prodigious output. If he had social skills he'd be dangerous.

[yodermon]

50. wait,

is this the guy who made the "Democrats get to sit at the back of the bus" comment after *'s last sElection?

[charlie]

55. That's him

Probably the most innocuous thing the little git's ever said about Democrats. Usually his solutions to the problem of the Enemy Within involve imprisonment, torture, and nuclear hellfire.

[Renew Deal]

46. lol, they added an editors note

This wasn't there in the morning.

Editor's Note:

Given the controversy that has developed regarding this article we feel compelled to comment.

While the perspectives contained in this article do not necessarily reflect the core values of TheRealityCheck.org, Inc. we made the controversial decision to publish it in an attempt to stimulate discussion on some very pertinent issues that have been raised here. Specifically:

1. Are economic motives for military action ever justified?

2. Can economic motives for military action truly be decoupled from issues relating to physical protection of a country's citizens and its political viability?

3. Is an attack on a nation (the United States) through economic means ever a legitimate act of aggression that warrants a military response?

4. To what extent is The United States' dependence on foreign oil a variable that promotes aggression?

5. Why are defending economic interests justified or unjustified?

Though, most who have commented negatively to this piece have clear pre-existing sentiments that will not be swayed ... lets have the debate and refrain from ad hominem and unthinking replies.

- TheRealityCheck.org, Inc.

[bloom]

57. Like some people have clear pre-existing sentiments

that murder, rape, and torture is bad.

Maybe I should let some child molesters change my viewpoint. :wtf:

What sort of reasonable debate is there with people who have no scruples about taking over the world - taking whatever they want by force.

Sheesh.

[name not needed]

47. Adam Yoshida won't share his sandwich.

Therefore, I will decapitate him and take his sandwich.

[Fenris]

51. You should!

He deserves it!

[name not needed]

52. I don't know what to use, the rusty hatchet or the katana.

[Fenris]

54. Rusty hatchet. That way you'll need more than one blow to sever the

neck and spinal cord.

[Blue_Tires]

49. i say we ignore this nutbar

lol...he doesn't even live in the u.s....and we all know that his little annual highlight is when he sees us wasting time talking about his mental vomit

[Media_Lies_Daily]

53. Yoshida is a...

...frickin' lunatic.

Unfortunately, several people wrote stuff like this about Afghanistan and Iraq prior to 2000, and those same people are now part of Herr Busch's power base.

Ignore this rant at your own risk.

[pen dragon]

59. as another British Columbian

I'd seriously consider curb stomping this prick if I found myself standing next to him on the sidewalk