Rep. McKinney toasting Rummy's ass with 9/11 war games queston

[JohnyCanuck]

Recently posted at www.fromthewilderness.com

March 1, 2005, PST 1200 (FTW): On February 16, 2005, Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney asked Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard B. Myers the same question this reporter asked General Ralph "Ed" Eberhart at the final 9/11 commission hearing:

What about the war games?

The Full House Armed Services Committee met to receive testimony on the Fiscal Year 2006 National Defense Authorization budget request from the Department of Defense. As the meeting wound down to its expected end, Secretary Rumsfeld prepared to leave. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA), who chaired the hearing, asked the Secretary to commit to a breakfast with Representatives who had not yet asked their questions. Secretary Rumsfeld happily agreed to do so.

At that moment Cynthia McKinney made sure to get the following vital question into the Congressional Record.

Transcript, February 16, Rumsfeld and Myers questioned by Cynthia McKinney:

Cynthia McKinney: Mr. Chairman, I have a question.

Duncan Hunter: The Gentle-lady is recognized.

McKinney: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Would that breakfast with the Secretary be open to the public?

Hunter: Well, if you want to bring all the omelets it might be, but ah -

McKinney: Well Mr. Chairman, the problem is - and I appreciate your adherence to the five-minute rule - however there are many of us who have important questions and my question in particular is about the four war games that were taking place on September 11th and how they may have impaired our ability to respond to those attacks.

Mr. Hunter: Well let me say the gentle lady...



McKinney: I would like that question to be answered in public Mr. Chairman.

Hunter: Let me say to the gentle lady we're going to have other opportunities to have the Secretary in front of us and what we will do beyond having questions, if you want a question for the record, be able to put that to the record and have the answer on the record, but additionally at the next event where the Secretary testifies - we'll try to make sure that happens - we will start with the folks who did not get their question answered so you will have an opportunity.

McKinney: Thank you so much Mr. Chairman, and I hope the record is still open so that even that portion of my comment will be on this record.

Hunter: It will be so ordered.

McKinney: Thank you Mr. Chairman.

-- end of transcript

At this point Representative Skelton (D-MO) asked a visibly flustered Donald Rumsfeld if in the future a classified briefing could occur on the recommendations given by General Luck and his team to the Secretary.

This helped to bury McKinney's question (and by necessity, the process continues: DoD has posted a peculiar "transcript" of the meeting's final moments, from which Representative McKinney's question has been thoroughly deleted), giving Rumsfeld a way to divert attention from the issue she had skillfully placed on the record. Rumsfeld responded to Skelton's question without addressing McKinney's at all. The only response to her question came in the form of both Rumsfeld and Myers' rapid hand movements and off-microphone murmurs. The issue seemed to knock Rumsfeld off-balance, affecting him as it had affected Ralph "Ed" Eberhart at the final 9/11 Commission hearing.

It's unlikely that "No comment" will be an acceptable reply to Representative McKinney's question. Eberhart got away with that when responding to this reporter, and has since retired from his post heading both NORTHERN COMMAND and NORAD. His retirement came immediately after the 2004 presidential election. It appears "no comment" will be his final word on the matter, but that will not be the case for Secretary Rumsfeld and General Myers.

www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/030105_mckinney_question.shtml#0

And for more good news on cracking the 9/11 coverup front it looks like the good people at www.911citizenswatch.org have Richard Clarke on the run as he makes every effort to avoid providing some important clarifications as to 9/11 timeline conflicts between the published report of the 9/11 Commission and the account published in his own book.

Open Letter to Richard A. Clarke
Former counter-terrorism ‘czar’ for both Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.
Author, Against All Enemies: Inside America's War on Terror

Subject:
Pertaining to accounts in Clarke’s book Against All Enemies, neither retracted or refuted, regarding 9/11 war games and the participation of General Myers and Sec. Rumsfeld in a video conference managed from the White House Situation Room by Richard Clarke with the assistance of his Deputy, Roger Cressey.

Note of Explanation:
This letter/email was presented (via email or in person) to Mr. Clarke on four occasions without a response of any kind to the specific questions raised regarding the actions (or lack of) from our military and top officials in positions of responsibility on 9/11. Given no response, and Rep. Cynthia McKinney's attempt to raise the issue at February 16th Armed Services Committee hearing, CitizensWatch is taking the step of making this letter public. This letter (see below) with questions pertaining to 9/11 (wargames, sworn testimony by Rumsfeld & Myers) was first sent as an email in June of 2004 to Mr. Clarke via his consulting company, Good Harbor. This note and these questions were presented personally to Mr. Clarke a second time on October 6, 2004 – and via email (3rd attempt) directly to his personal email box on October 15. When presented with a second opportunity in person (4th attempt) to respond to these queries backstage at a December 7th function at the Institute for Ethical Culture in New York City, Mr. Clarke refused to acknowledge the author and instead quickly left the room.

More at:

www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=484

[Gloria]

1. I was just about to post this.....and am downloading the video

as I type! can't wait to see it.

[kimpossible]

2. Good for her!

Great maneuver on her part to get this on the record. But it's awful that we're reduced to having to celebrate as a victory merely asking a question on the record, let alone getting it answered.

[JohnyCanuck]

3. No doubt about it she is one gutsy lady.

As Mike Ruppert says:

The courage and directness of this fearless woman never cease to amaze us. She has let it be known that she will be a perpetual thorn in the side of the administration for at least the next two years.

Cynthia, stay out of small planes and check under you car for brake fluid leaks each time before you drive away (might be a good idea to get a remote starter as well).

[Pastiche423]

4. The Gentle Lady

speaks for so many whose voices aren't permitted to be heard.

She is an intelligent and courageous woman and I am thankful and ecstatic that she is back in Congress.

I want that question, which is now in the record, answered!

[Gabi Hayes]

5. how PISSED do you think the pugs are that she's back?

I'd vote for her for president in a nanosecond!

put her at the top and Boxer no.2

I know....dream on, but.......

Johnny Canuck....that is a wonderfully expressed sentiment. Too bad millions more aren't clued in.

[KG]

10. heh - there are lots of dems. PISSED that she's back!

rock on, cynthia!

[Kansas Wyatt]

13. Frothing at the mouth and spewing putrid vile?

Followed by hate rants about being unpatriotic, a terrorist lover, trying to destroy our military like Clinton did, and finally implying that she herself probably flew one of the airplanes on 9/11 herself and parachuted to safety. 'Well if the Dems did it, then you can't blame us for it, so we are at least even.'

Republicans are all ate up and rabid about any of the truth coming to the light of day.

[scarletlib]

6. She is awesome.

Thank you Cynthia!

[Gabi Hayes]

7. In case you don't remember specifically the kind of HS to which she

was subjected:

http://www.alternet.org/story/16172

According to those quoted on National Public Radio, McKinney’s “a loose cannon” (media expert) who “the people of Atlanta are embarrassed and disgusted” (politician) by, and she is also “loony” and “dangerous” (senator from her own party).

Yow! And why is McKinney dangerous/loony/disgusting? According to NPR, “McKinney implied that the Administration knew in advance about September 11 and deliberately held back the information.”

The New York Times’ Lynette Clemetson revealed her comments went even further over the edge: “Ms. McKinney suggest that President Bush might have known about the September 11 attacks but did nothing so his supporters could make money in a war.”

That’s loony, all right. As an editor of the highly respected Atlanta Journal Constitution told NPR, McKinney’s “practically accused the President of murder!”

Problem is, McKinney never said it.

That’s right. The “quote” from McKinney is a complete fabrication. A whopper, a fabulous fib, a fake, a flim-flam. Just freakin’ made up.


make sure you read on, cause Palast continues with a brief discussion w/somebody from the AJC, then goes on about how the media did one of those jobs of repeating a story that "was all over the place." One big problem, though: the quote upon which the whole thing was based, never came out of McKinney's mouth. Remember slimeball Paul Begala maximum dissing her based on her alleged quote?

Him among other people in her OWN party? Fricking DINO/Achordate Party.

[Gabi Hayes]

8. from the same article

I never heard this one before, but I'm sure it's not news here:

After George Bush Senior left the White House, he became an advisor and lobbyist for a Canadian gold-mining company, Barrick Gold. Hey, a guy’s got to work. But there were a couple of questions about Barrick, to say the least. For example, was Barrick’s Congo gold mine funding both sides of a civil war and perpetuating that bloody conflict? Only one Congressperson demanded hearings on the matter.

You’ve guessed: Cynthia McKinney.

That was covered in the . . . well, it wasn’t covered at all in the U.S. press.

McKinney contacted me at the BBC. She asked if I’d heard of Barrick. Indeed, I had. Top human rights investigators had evidence that a mine that Barrick bought in 1999 had, in clearing their Tanzanian properties three years earlier, bulldozed mine shafts . . . burying about 50 miners alive.

I certainly knew Barrick: They’d sued the Guardian for daring to run a story I’d written about the allegations of the killings. Barrick never sued an American paper for daring to run the story, because no American paper dared.

The primary source for my story, an internationally famous lawyer named Tundu Lissu, was charged by the Tanzanian police with sedition, and arrested, for calling for an investigation. McKinney has been trying to save his life with an international campaign aimed at Barrick.

That was another of her mistakes.

[Sterling]

9. Kick for CK.

kick.

[DURHAM D]

11. Go Oklahoma, go Oklahoma, go Oklahoma ... n/t

[TroubleMan]

12. My favorite Congresswoman

But you couldn't tell by my sig.....

[Devlzown]

20. That's my dream ticket, too!

:loveya:

[Beam Me Up]

14. This country would not be in the mess it is in if

more Democrats in Congress had the courage of this woman. Bravo, madam congresswoman!

And here's another greatest recommendation. Everyone needs to be aware of this story. Spread it around DU folk!

BMU

[JohnyCanuck]

21. Wouldn't hurt to pass it onto the M$M as well

Let them know that we know they're covering for criminals by refusing to ask relevant questions about 9/11.

[Beam Me Up]

34. You mean the "CON" -- Corporate Owned News?

I won't grant them the designation "Main Stream" dollar sign or no--it sounds too legitimate. You can't expect anyting even remotely resembling the truth from a CON man. It's all about getting you to BUY their reality. Whoever controls your perception of reality controls you. Every decision you make will be based on the reality system you BELIEVE to be true. The entire edifice of civilization is ultimately based on little more than a slight of hand trick: We tell you who you are, what you want and what is possible for you on our terms, and you are suggestible enough to believe it.

BMU

[bpilgrim]

15. the war games also accelerated our reaction time, since we had jets aloft

or should have...

i wish she's phrase the question as "explain how those exercises helped/accelerated or hindered/distracted-from our response, that horrid day." - or somet'n like that :shrug:

i know, i know... i'm a nit picker :evilgrin:

President Discusses Importance of Homeland Security Department - June 7, 2002

"I remember -- I remember campaigning in Chicago, and one of the reporters said, would you ever deficit spend? I said only -- only in times of war, in times of economic insecurity as a result of a recession, or in times of national emergency. Never did I dream we'd have a trifecta. (Laughter.)"

source...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/06/20020607-4.html

http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/trifecta.mp3

more...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/trifecta

see also...
http://news.globalfreepress.com

psst... pass the word ;->

peace

[TankLV]

16. God bless Cynthia McKinney. She's absolutely one of my favorite congress

critters!

Please be careful Cynthia!

[paineinthearse]

17. CBC rocks again!!!!

http://www.house.gov/mckinney/

But she needs to put some work into her website.

[Al-CIAda]

18. What the Government is Still Hiding

Peter Lance, Author, "Cover Up": What the Government is Still Hiding

Air America Interview on 'The Majority Report'
mp3-
http://airamericaplace.com/upload/clip/cli...ce%20090704.mp3

Mafia connections, 9/11 Terror Drills ON 9/11...Non-response of NORAD ...Kean complicity, Donald Rumsfeld, etc..

[neuvocat]

19. I'm glad she's back in Congress.

God bless her.

[eridani]

22. Yet another Congressperson who needs to stay the hell out of small planes

[kilgore65]

29. stay out of big ones as well...

...remember that the evidence shows that the United flight 553 crash in December 1972 could have been sabotage. Among the victims was Dorothy Hunt, wife of Watergate conspirator E. Howard Hunt. These fascists wouldn't think twice of downing a commercial airliner to silence someone willing to blow open the 911 scenario...

[Old and In the Way]

23. They can run, but they can't hide.

The questions are not going away.

Does anyone else think it odd that Meyers who's filling in as JCS the day of 9/11 (Eberhardt was flying to Europe), is shooting the breeze in Max Cleland's office about his pending nomination to the CJS position while this hi-profile, international exercise on terrorism response is being conducted? I don't recall any questions asked about Vigilent Guardian/Vigilent Warrior during his nomination hearings. In light of this fact, I think he ought to re-explain why he wasn't involved in that exercise. Too bad he was out of the loop. The terrorist hi-jackers caught another lucky break that day.

Hmmmmmm.


Too bad, you shout have posted this in the 9/11 forum.

[lovuian]

24. Norad's involvement in 9/11 is at the heart of Canada's refusal

to Bush for the defense shield... Canada saw the hanky panky and doesn't want to be involved!!!

[JohnyCanuck]

25. Interesting you should say that

When I heard that Paul Martin had turned down the opportunity for Canada to get involved in the Ballistic Missile Defense boondoggle my secret hope/desire was that it was because Canada knew through our participation in Norad that the shady goings on re. 911 were such that they couldn't be covered up for much longer and would eventually cause big problems for DICKtator Shrub. If Martin figures that the evidence for LIHOP or even MIHOP will become clearer to the general public in the not too distant future, whether or not Canada has thumbed its nose at the little pumped-up popinjay by refusing his invitation to his BMD party becomes insignificant in the greater scheme of things. I guess I can continue to dream anyway.

[bobthedrummer]

28. They know about our coup.

[TNOE]

26. This thread is a ray of sunshine today

in the current gloomy atmosphere! Thanks.

[Swamp Rat]

27. HELL YEAH! Now we're gettin' somewhere!

:)

I love you Cynthia McKinney!:loveya:

Pandora's Box is opening!... :D

[Frederik]

30. She rocks!

Donald Rumsfeld defecated himself right there on camera!

Now we are eagerly awaiting the answer...

What's up with Richard Clark? Are they ruining your limited hangout there Dick?

[bobthedrummer]

31. All of US have unanswered questions about 9/11 to this day they

haven't been addressed let alone answered.

[oasis]

32. McKinney owes the Bushistas nothing but a good kick in their asses. (eom)

[troubleinwinter]

33. As well,

the CIA Inspector General's 9/11 Report (that "names names") has not been released... it was withheld until "after the election". We have not seen it.

TruthOut article:

"Tuesday 19 October 2004

The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

[bigtree]

35. Great to have her back on the job

[AndyTiedye]

36. Reichstag Fire

[Carolab]

37. This seems an appropriate time to interject this personal story.

My younger brother who lives in CA happened to attend a Richard Clarke book-signing a few months ago (prior to the "election"). He bluntly asked Clarke whether 9/11 was MIHOP or LIHOP. Clarke said "no", that this administration was "too incompetent to carry something like that out". Made Clarke suspect in my mind immediately. Think he's a scapegoat? I do.

[Minstrel Boy]

38. Interesting answer from Clarke

Because he's right: the administration is too incompetent. But 9/11 was bigger, and went deeper, than the executive branch. It was in the works long before they came to office. And they took office, I believe, because they would better exploit what was coming.

9/11 was an op of the National Security State. Like JFK's murder. And they're good.