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manly Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:10 PM
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honesty
I ask this simple question in all sincerity and with great sadness.

Whatever happened to honesty?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:11 PM
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1. It's still around.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:13 PM
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2. Certainly not within the Republican Party
After all, the GOP is a Party of LIARS!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:26 PM
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6. Well, no
it's not present THERE.

But I know it's still around. I'm an honest person. My husband is an honest person.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:15 PM
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3. when truth no longer matters
honesty is a liability
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:15 PM
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4. Who are you? Diogenes?
Honesty left the political arena 'round about the time of "Tailgunner Joe"... probably earlier than that.

I'd say it was over when the priests and the merchants got together to fleece a gullible public using "politicians" as their frontmen.
Since then, a once promising species has been slowly circling the drain.

Not that I'm CYNICAL or anything... :evilgrin:


--MAB
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:17 PM
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5. Disappeared. I lay some of the blame on the average American.
No one listens to what is actually being said. They "read minds" and know what someone meant.

For instance - I ask someone if they took my pencil. They look at me like they've been insulted and say "do I look like someone that needs to steal pencils? I have a whole room full of pens."

Now, most people will jump to the conclusion that this person did not take the pencil. However, the question was never answered. The English language has lost it's meanings. People don't understand what's going on. If there is no demand for honesty, there is no reason for honesty to be practiced.
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GreatScott Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:52 PM
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7. Honesty is relative
People think they are honest, it's everyone else that they think has fallen
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BeTheChange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 05:59 PM
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8. It has been lost in translation
Our culture is so toxic that honest has been mutated into so many forms, perception being the main talisman.

You and I can both look at the same event but percieve it very differently. Neither perception is dishonest, persay. But one is not true.

Too many people are unwilling to question the truth of what they are being lead to believe. I think that the "instant analysis" fostered by a 24 hour global news cycle prevents people from trying to understand a situation that has not yet unfolded. However, the news makes them feel so informed with its constant breaking news tickers and special reports.

We are conditioned to accept lies. I think it makes it easier for us to lie in return. Maybe honesty is just the next death in the traits that made up community.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:03 PM
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9. It is one of those silly human ideals that Rumsfield says should not
be part of 'assumptions' anymore.
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