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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:29 PM
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Please sign the Sibel Edmonds petition if you haven't already
Link is on the middle-left of page: http://www.justacitizen.com/

Exercise your Constitutional rights by signing the petiton to require the immediate release of the entire report completed by the Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General (DOJ-IG) of its investigation into confirmed reports by FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds on the cover-up of information and leads pre and post 9/11...

Who is Sibel Edmonds? http://antiwar.com/news/interview.html


"...we fear that the designation of information as classified in some cases serves to protect the executive branch against embarrassing revelations and full accountability... Releasing declassified versions of these reports, or at least portions or summaries, would serve the public’s interest, increase transparency, promote effectiveness and efficiency at the FBI, and facilitate Congressional oversight."

U.S. Senators Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Charles Grassley (R-IA) in a Letter to Attorney General John Ashcroft




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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:35 PM
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1. Sheesh. If this can barely get a peep from DUers, It certainly won't
break the mainstream embargo.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 09:51 PM
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3. This is such an important issue and it is still active!!!!!!
Take one second from the "vetwife hysteria" and sign the petition - it's a lot more important than what i happening today...
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 08:58 PM
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2. I'll go check this out
Thanks for the links! So, Charles Grassley is actually doing something good?

:hi:
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chiffon Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:17 PM
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4. done
Thanks for posting this Mr_Spock.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 11:31 PM
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5. While yer all at it...
where the hell is the CIA Inspector General's 9-11 report? The one that "names names"?

From Truth Out:

The agency is withholding a damning report that points at senior officials.

It is shocking: The Bush administration is suppressing a CIA report on 9/11 until after the election, and this one names names. Although the report by the inspector general's office of the CIA was completed in June, it has not been made available to the congressional intelligence committees that mandated the study almost two years ago.

"It is infuriating that a report which shows that high-level people were not doing their jobs in a satisfactory manner before 9/11 is being suppressed," an intelligence official who has read the report told me, adding that "the report is potentially very embarrassing for the administration, because it makes it look like they weren't interested in terrorism before 9/11, or in holding people in the government responsible afterward."

When I asked about the report, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Venice), ranking Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said she and committee Chairman Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) sent a letter 14 days ago asking for it to be delivered. "We believe that the CIA has been told not to distribute the report," she said. "We are very concerned."

According to the intelligence official, who spoke to me on condition of anonymity, release of the report, which represents an exhaustive 17-month investigation by an 11-member team within the agency, has been "stalled." First by acting CIA Director John McLaughlin and now by Porter J. Goss, the former Republican House member (and chairman of the Intelligence Committee) who recently was appointed CIA chief by President Bush.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102004V.shtml

This report HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED. Why???

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY HIDING??!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY HIDING??!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY HIDING??!! WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY HIDING??!!

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Tigress DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:02 AM
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6. Done
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 08:42 AM
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7. kick
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 09:48 AM
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8. You can contact her through her home page
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 10:47 AM
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9. Bigger than it looks
I don't think people realise how important this woman is. Her story is *not* about incompetence in the FBI. She's talking about 9/11 LIHOP here folks!

http://baltimorechronicle.com/050704SibelEdmonds.shtml

http://baltimorechronicle.com/121704Hogue.shtml

'There are so many questions that they don't want answered. And they remain unanswered. And I'm afraid they will not be answered unless we have a real investigation. And to this day there has been no real investigation.'

'So to just narrow it down and say al-Qaeda and the Saudis, or to say it's what they had at the camp in Afghanistan, is extremely misleading.'

'Then things start getting a lot of overlap-- money laundering, and drugs and terrorist activities and their support networks converging in several points. That's what I'm trying to convey without being too specific. And this money travels. And you start trying to go to the root of it and it's getting into somebody's political campaign, and somebody's lobbying.'

She's still under a gag order, so she has to has to talk rather cryptically. Couldn't this turn out to be much bigger than Gannongate?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:24 AM
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10. Hi Frederik!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:32 AM
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11. Thanks!
A haven of sanity in the midst of corporate infotainment!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 04:49 PM
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18. Welcome to DU!
I heard her on Laura Flanders show yesterday and it SHOCKS me how criminal our government is!! This may be the biggest story out there, but I still have to kick this thread several times a day!
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:31 PM
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20. She's going to talk
eventually. They can't keep her gagged forever. And the more people know who she is, the sooner it's bound to happen. But they seem desperate to stop her, which should speak volumes as to how explosive her information is. By the way, the 'semi-legit organisation' she was invited to join was apparently the Turkish-American Council, which is led by Bush family insider and former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft. And which was investigated by the FBI for money-laundering, drug trafficking and possibly connected to 9/11 in some way (through the people they were dealing with, presumably). And which had a mole in the FBI to (not) translate the documents pertaining to it.

She's talking about other, 'similar' organisations too. It has been pointed out that since her other language was Azerbaijani, why not take a look at the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce? In the Honorary Council of Advisers we find Brent Scowcroft again, plus Henry Kissinger, James Baker, Zbigniew Brzezisnksi... Should we be surprised that Richard Armitage, Richard Perle and Dick Cheney are affiliated with it, too?

(...)
SE: You might have an organization supposed to be promoting the cultural affairs of a certain country within another country. Hypothetically, say, an Uzbek folklore society based in Germany. The stated purpose would be to hold folklore-related activities – and they might even do that – but the real activities taking place behind the scenes are criminal.

CD: Such as?

SE: Everything – from drugs to money laundering to arms sales. And yes, there are certain convergences with all these activities and international terrorism.

CD: So with these organizations we're talking about a lot of money –

SE: Huge, just massive. They don't deal with 1 million or 5 million dollars, but with hundreds of millions.
(...)

I just found out there was a great thread connecting those dots on DU last year: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2238307

And on Rigorous Intuition:
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/where-drugs-arms-and-oil-intersect.html#comments
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:44 PM
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I'm looking forward to the day she is allowed to talk
The fact that they are delaying it until it's not so damaging is infuriating enough to me. We need to take our government back from these criminals...
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:04 PM
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12. THIS IS IMPORTANT- please sign and get informed about her case.
State Dept. Quashed 9/11 Links To Global Drug Trade
 -FBI Whistleblower


Sibel Edmonds- FBI Whistleblower, interview
SE: Everything – from drugs to money laundering to arms sales. And yes, there are certain convergences with all these activities and international terrorism.
CD: So with these organizations we're talking about a lot of money –
SE: Huge, just massive. They don't deal with 1 million or 5 million dollars, but with hundreds of millions.
CD: From your previous testimony and the examples I want to bring up next, it would seem that organized crime with terrorist links is really holding the reins inside powerful governments, even the American one. No?
SE: That may be, but I don't know. I didn't get high enough up on the ladder to find out. With all of this suspicious and unprecedented "state secrets" obstructionism from Ashcroft, it might seem that way, but I don't have any direct information.
CD: But what do think, within departments such as the Pentagon and the State Department. Do you suspect certain high officials may be profiting from terrorist-linked organized crime?
SE: I can't say anything specific with regards to these departments, because I didn't work for them. But as for the politicians, what I can say is that when you start talking about huge amounts of money, certain elected officials become automatically involved. And there are different kinds of campaign contributions – legal and illegal, declared and undeclared.
CD: Could this apparent toleration of dangerous criminal groups in the midst possibly be interpreted to mean that American policy is driven by the "ends justify the means" philosophy?
SE: But how are the ends possibly met by such activities? To this day, I just can't see how. What is happening does not benefit 99.9 percent of Americans – just a very small elite.
I'm no expert, but from what I have personally seen I can say that our national security is being compromised every day, because important investigations are being stopped, and potentially important clues are being overlooked. It's absolutely incredible that even after 9/11, certain individuals, foreign businessmen and others, among others, are still escaping scrutiny.
Okay, perhaps talking about the pre-9/11 world they could get away with saying "we didn't know," but to continue doing so – I mean, what if we are attacked by nuclear or chemical weapons, what will be their next excuse? That "we didn't know" it could happen? Come on! I can prove they are lying, because they know."

http://www.breakfornews.com/Sibel-Edmonds-Story.htm

======

Sibel Edmonds Whistle-Blowing

Download MP3     Listen Stream Audio
Scott talks with Sibel Edmonds about her attempts to have the information she knows de-classified, and what you can do about it.

http://weekendinterviewshow.com/

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:08 PM
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13. I've already signed. I wish her story would see the light of day.
There are others whose stories are being suppressed. Many others.

The media is censoring them.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:18 PM
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14. done!!! the Edmonds case may be the the most important one before us
:bounce:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 12:54 PM
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15. I agree! This case is about something tangible and MUST be pursued
This lady has real evidence that is being suppressed...
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 01:28 PM
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16. done. thanks for the post.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 03:56 PM
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17. kick
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:29 PM
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19. 65000 people on DU and she's only got 8660 signatures so far?
Something is wrong here...
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 05:34 PM
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21. I'll tell you whats wrong, our damned representitives need to get
behind her and offer support. Those worthless chickenshits are complicit. She has at least one Repub. who is supporting her as well.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:11 PM
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22. Done and kick n/t
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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 06:44 PM
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23. done
:kick:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 07:46 PM
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24. kick
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-27-05 11:30 PM
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25. kick
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 12:49 AM
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26. I'm gonna kick this till that petition has at least 20,000 signatures
...or until it get locked - whichever comes first :D
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 01:39 AM
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27. Already signed it months ago, but I'll give this thread a kick!
It *IS* really important that she be heard!

Even sending a letter of support to Republican Charles Grassley for his courageous support of her would be in order too. Must keep those Republicans that aren't in lockstep with the Bush crime family a view of what the rest of America feels and that they support them when they do make the right choices against this president!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:21 AM
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28. She should have 1,000,000 signatures - people are just not informed
Clearly you know what is going on with this case - many must not even want to spend two minutes to educate themselves - it could happen to them...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:17 PM
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29. cake
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 09:47 PM
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30. snake
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 10:18 PM
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31. flake
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:14 PM
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32. kick
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:23 AM
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33. kick
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 10:26 AM
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34. 8907 signatures now.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 01:21 PM
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35. kick
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 06:11 PM
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36. 8924
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 08:01 PM
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37. 8935
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Moms Baby Democrat Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-01-05 09:06 PM
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38. #8937 And Counting...Kick n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:11 PM
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39. 8972
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:43 PM
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40. here
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:21 PM
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41. Nice post :o) - I'm gonna try to keep this one kicked
... so it doesn't get archived like yours.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:17 PM
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42. thx....I forgot to keep my own going
bump

btw, have you seen the vid with her and Daniel Ellsberg?

she is so.....

HOT!!!!

her eyes flash with the fire of indignant--and real, true, patriotism--at one point. I melted
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:22 PM
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43. Yeah, I even enjoy listening to her on radio
she just has a special "something"
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 12:15 AM
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44. 8980
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:59 AM
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45. 9006
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 11:51 PM
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46. 9042
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 01:48 PM
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47. 9104
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 05:58 PM
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48. carnauba wagon kick
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:52 AM
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49. 9165 - daily kick
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 10:57 AM
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50. done
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 11:08 AM
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51. I'm # 9167 on this petition.
O8)
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 11:39 AM
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52. Truth kick
:dem::kick::dem:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 04:08 PM
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53. 9188 and counting...
10k is coming...
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 04:11 PM
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54. 9189
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 11:43 PM
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55. nice :) - up to 9204 now
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 12:41 PM
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56. 9235 n/t
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-05 09:18 PM
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57. 9245
c'mon - there are 65000 DU'ers!!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-05 06:15 PM
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58. 9261
daily boot number zillion...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 07:24 AM
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59. 9271
yawn
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-05 10:01 PM
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60. nightly kickaroony
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-10-05 02:48 PM
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61. 9283
woot :(
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 05:27 PM
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62. 9302
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distressedsister Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 05:59 PM
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63. Bush Is Covering Up for the Saudis
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-05 06:16 PM
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64. I thought she won her case, FGS! I've signed petitions for Sibol...what's
this new one?
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 12:08 AM
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65. 9314
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justoneworld Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 01:00 AM
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66. Thanks for the info
Just signed..
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 06:50 PM
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67. Allright = 9339 - we can get 10,000
!
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-05 04:01 PM
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68. 9353
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-17-05 11:43 PM
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69. 9380
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