most vegetarians are not right-wing!

[Stop_the_War]

some people here have actually promoted some kind of ridiculous myth that "right-wingers are into the animal rights thing". that made me go :wtf:. Most vegetarians and vegans are liberal. Right-wingers are ACTUALLY more into the huntin' shoot-a-deer-then-put-it-on-my-wall thing.

[MrSlayer]

1. I've never run into a right wing vegetarian.

I'm with you on this.

[Anakin Skywalker]

14. Nice Star Wars graphic, Slayer.

:)

[MrSlayer]

28. Thanks, it's from the new movie.

I got it off this site.

http://www.tpu.fi/~t4jlaaks/ep3/

Don't look at it if you don't want the movie spoiled. This site has the story line and a ton of unauthorized pics.

[Dorian Gray]

27. I know a couple

Republican vegetarians. But, not too many. The vast majority of those that I know are liberal.

[Jamastiene]

2. You are correct.

Not to mention that they take pictures of the poor dead things all bloody. They act so proud when their children and grand children pull wings off of birds that are still alive but wounded. Sick bastards. I got no problem with vegetarians and vegans, but I have to admit, I am guilty of loving steak.

[porphyrian]

3. Huh? Who said that where? - n/t

[China_cat]

4. They might not be right-wing in most things

but the majority of those I've run into sure as hell want to control what and how everyone else eats.

[Rob H.]

15. I'm not sure I buy that

I'm a vegetarian, and if my friends want to eat steaks slathered in big, heaping handfuls of butter, I don't care--that's their business. I get way more flak from them and other omnivores than I've ever dished out (see previous sentence). That's my experience, though. FWIW, YMMV, etc. :)

[China_cat]

22. Please read what I wrote again

I said the majority of those that I've had dealings with. I did not say ALL, I didn't even say all that I'd dealt with. Just a majority.

[Rob H.]

29. Didn't mean to offend & sorry if I did

Maybe you've run into some especially vocal militant vegetarians, and that sucks because they make the rest of us look like loons, too. Like I said, if you're around me, you can eat whatever you want without fear of reprisal or disparaging looks. :)

[China_cat]

32. I try to be careful not to paint everybody with the same brush.

But right now my niece has a boyfriend who's trying to convert her veganism, doesn't allow her to eat anything with sugar or food coloring or that might have a speck of butter or milk in it. He's got this kid who was raised on raw milk drinking soy (which she hates) and she's lost so much weight that she looks sick.

Or did the last time I saw her. She's not allowed to come here any more because she might eat something he doesn't approve of.

[Rob H.]

33. Wow. He sounds like he's *really* screwed up

Especially if he feels the need (or in this case, the right) to dictate what she eats and wants to control her contact with her own family. It sounds like it could be a sign of more serious problems to come. :(

[China_cat]

35. I know

and all I can do is be here for her. If I try to butt in, I'm likely to drive her into denial and holding on to something not good for her and I know that from personal experience.

[DeaconBlues]

25. Amen

My wife and I have not mentioned that we are vegetarians at family gatherings for a very long time (we've been vegetarians for nearly fifteen years). We definitely don't try to dictate what others eat. But, sure as the sun comes up in the east, every time we get together with someone we have to hear the jokes about "steak is good food" and we have people try to coax us into eating meat. I love them, but it gets old.

I'm willing to bet that people who eat meat are more defensive and pushy when it comes to eating habits than vegetarians are.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. Usually any shit some numbnuts tries to give me about my eating habits

is negated when I tell them I got my cholesterol down from 300 to 133 by cutting out fried and processed foods and most animal fats.

But, really, enjoy.

[RobertSeattle]

5. OK, here's a twist

All right wingers aren't racist, but most racists are right wingers.

[Jamastiene]

8. So true

So true.

[Stop_the_War]

10. so are you trying to say

that most vegetarians are right-wingers? because that's bullshit!

[RobertSeattle]

12. No...

I'd be saying..

Most liberals aren't vegetarians, but most vegetarians are liberals.

[Dogmudgeon]

6. Well, there was Hitler

But realistically, linking diet to politics is just plain wrong. Politicizing non-political behaviors usually ends up making a lot of people look foolish. For instance, the right-wingers' cigar fetishism.

Hitler, Ghandi, Paul McCartney and the people next door all have had their reasons, often divergent, about why they don't eat meat. If politics is driving your decisions on eating, you should be very careful about both your diet and your ideology.

--p!

[Stop_the_War]

9. That is not true. Hitler's favorite food was Bavarian sausages.

[Cleita]

13. Hitler didn't become a vegetarian because he was into

animal rights. He did so to punish himself for the death of his niece, Geli Raubal, which he considered himself responsible for. It was his penance he imposed on himself.

[Dogmudgeon]

23. Hitler's vegetarianism

Hitler was a health perfectionist. The modern term is "orthorexia". Vegetarianism became one of his health compulsions. I believe Hitler avoided sex during most of his life, for similar reasons.

Hitler may have liked sausage at one point of his life, but I'm pretty sure that he gave up meat when he was an artist, a few years before the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. The idea that he was doing some kind of penance is intriguing, and such emotional pressures often contribute to orthorexia.

But, once again, Hitler being a vegetarian is of no particular significance. I brought it up to illustrate how absurd politicizing non-political habits can be.

--p!

[Cleita]

24. From William L. Shirer in Chapter 5 of "The Rise and Fall

of the Third Reich" about Hitler's reaction to Geli Raubal's death.

From this personal blow, I believe, an act of renunciation, his decision to abstain from meat; at least, some of his closest henchmen seemed to think so.

[SOS]

34. Hitler was no vegetarian

NYT, 1991 - Under the headline, "Don't Put Hitler Among the Vegetarians," the correspondent, Richard Schwartz, author of Judaism and Vegetarianism, pointed out that Hitler would occasionally go on vegetarian binges to cure himself of excessive sweatiness and flatulence, but that his main diet was meat-centered. He also cited Robert Payne, Albert Speer, and other well-known Hitler biographers, who mentioned Hitler's predilection for such foods as Bavarian sausages, ham, liver, and game. Furthermore, it was argued, if Hitler had been a vegetarian, he would not have banned vegetarian organizations in Germany and the occupied countries. Hitler's asceticism played an important part in the image he projected over Germany. According to the widely believed legend, he neither smoked nor drank, nor did he eat meat or have anything to do with women. Only the first was true. He drank beer and diluted wine frequently, had a special fondness for Bavarian sausages and kept a mistress, Eva Braun, who lived with him quietly in the Berghof. There had been other discreet affairs with women. His asceticism was fiction invented by Goebbels to emphasize his total dedication, his self-control, the distance that separated him from other men. By this outward show of asceticism, he could claim that he was dedicated to the service of his people."

http://www.vegsource.com/berry/hitler.html

[Dogmudgeon]

36. And the source for this is ...

... "Vegsource dot com".

Specifically, a book by Ryan Berry, who's a vedge activist.

Yep, all the good people are vedge, and all the bad people eat meat. Makes perfect sense ... not.

--p!

[TheFarseer]

7. That's crazy

There are not any RW vegitarians. I think vegitarians are out of their minds, but if they don't want to eat meat, then hey whatever

[Cleita]

17. Well, I know left wingers who think Veggers are out of their

mind too. People who eat hamburgers and other meat cuisine don't really understand it. I have had people try to get me to eat chicken as a vegetable. I think a lot of people don't understand where their food comes from. I personally don't have a problem eating animal products, but I am very particular where my meat comes from so I am mostly a vegetarian. Now I get pork chops occasionally from a friend who raises pigs. I know his pigs are raised and killed humanely so I am okay with it.

[Rob H.]

20. "chicken as a vegetable"

The one I get all the time is, "But you eat fish, right?"

[Cleita]

21. That too!

LOL

[Anakin Skywalker]

11. Hey, I Agree with Ya.

The rightwingers are the ones who have always take joy in senseless slaughters, and who are now trying to make their moolahs by legalizing the massacre of wild American mustangs.

[charlie]

16. Pfft

One person. Not some people. Take it up with him.

[byronius]

18. Most Right Wingers I've Met...

...are ANTI-vegetarian, as if it's a crime against nature to not embrace cruelty. Sort of a Darwinian Dog-Eat-Dog-As-Long-As-You're-The-Dog Wrapped-In-Fake-Christianity belief structure, of the type usually discovered inside one's own ass.

[SmokingJacket]

19. Well... a right-winger vegetarian is in a very small, lonely group.

Right-wingers are into money and pedophilia, that's all.

(Okay, I exaggerate, but not by much.)

[goodhue]

26. You need to spend more time in India.

Plenty of right wing vegetarians over there. Left wing too.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. The only overlap I see with Vegetarians & Animal Rights People is when

They get excessively self-righteous (most don't, but some do), like Fundies or other right-wingers tend to do as well.

I generally have a problem with control freaks, I don't really care where they place themselves on the political spectrum. For the record, I don't eat red meat and almost never eat poultry, and I think factory farming is bad for you, bad for the animals, and bad for the environment... But I'd be lying if I said I don't think there are elements of the PETA crowd who tend to go way overboard with trying to tell other people what to do.