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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:52 PM
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epiphany
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 06:57 PM by datasuspect
i just found out why i am an atheist.

it seems i've been reading scripture with a carnal mind, which ultimately renders scripture ineffective. therefore, the radiant light of god's word has not in one iota reached my heart.

yes, the scales have not dropped from my eyes . . . seems all that reliance on reality was pretty much a waste of time.

so it seems i am a fool and deluded and not open minded and not diverse enough and and and and

of all books ever written, published, or sold, i guess the bible has certain magical properties that are activated upon development of a mind that is not carnal.

what i want to know is this: how do i truly determine the extent to which my mind is sufficiently godly for me to understand scripture?

what does christianity NOT think of. god would make a good used car salesman if you ask me.


edited to wipe the drool from my chin

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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:55 PM
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1. You ungodly kook.
Mind your own damn business.

:smoke:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:58 PM
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6. aw jays'us....... my karma just ran over my dogma
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:59 PM
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7. don't forget i'm a fool too . . .
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:56 PM
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2. be healed sinner! *smack on the forehead*
There ya go! Remember from here forth you must believe everything the Bible says and disregard all other info.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:57 PM
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4. but i need a uncarnal mind to do this
and i can't say what i always have on my mind . . .
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:57 PM
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3. Also, it's got some...
... pretty saucy scenes in there with all that begetting
and begotting.

Whoohoo!

"bible has certain magical properties that are activated upon
development of a mind that is not carnal."

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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:00 PM
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8. Oh wait...
Knowing those things are in there is kinda carnal... eh?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:01 PM
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10. is smiting all the first born of nations carnal?
oh, it's okay when god does it
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:09 PM
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16. I could write a *book* about all the carnal things in the bible...
Oh, wait... Somebody beat me to it. It's called the bible!
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 06:57 PM
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5. Spiritual Kryptonite?
Guess I've been exposed too.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:04 PM
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12. go beyond the mind
let the mind tie itself into knots,
it does not concern you..

live in the present moment , in the NOW

there is no past or future, there is only now.

:party: :party: :hippie:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:00 PM
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9. Far Be It For Me To Ever Think I Could Be "Holy" Enough To Understand
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 07:01 PM by Beetwasher
the mind of a divine being. It might be a lot like taking blotter and that would REALLY freak me out.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:02 PM
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11. let alone the bible
take your shoes off before you step in the temple pal!
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:06 PM
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13. then again
5 hits of orange sunshine might find ya the big guy.......


:party:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:11 PM
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17. You should check out this thread, before it gets banished ...
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 07:11 PM by Up2Late
to some Religion group, good stuff, but no need to repeat it.
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3166480>:evilgrin:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:07 PM
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14. Man, I am SO sick of religious discussions in this forum
Really, really, REALLY sick of them.

Yeah, most of the time I Hide them, but now and then someone tricks me into looking, like you've done. And I can't tell you how incrediubly much I resent it.

For your, and everyone else's information, there is a whole Religion and Theology FORUM here at DU. Take your bleepin' religion discussions there, where they belong.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:09 PM
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15. well excuse the living hell out of me
sorry . . .

i'll make sure i vet future postings with you to ensure conformity and compliance.

anything else?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:11 PM
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18. Ah thanks!
I got a very similar post on one of my threads the other day.

Was whisked away into the R&T void before I could reply.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 07:12 PM
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19. i'm gone
watching fear, and loathing in vegas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:02 PM
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20. And the point of your post is....?
You seem to be trying to say something other than that you are an atheist... but I am not quite understanding all of the rest of it.

Shit, who cares if you're an atheist? But who called you a "fool and deluded"?

Someone said "the bible has certain magical properties that are activated upon development of a mind that is not carnal."?? I never read that post... could you provide it?

Just trying to understand what you are talking about... or if you're just being snotty.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:18 PM
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21. please
please please please.

just trying to make sense of so much absurdity . . .

i'm sorry, but i'm smiley-challenged.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:37 PM
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23. I will post what ever smiley you prefer...
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 08:39 PM by troubleinwinter
Just lemme know the one you want, and I will say it's from you.

so... "just trying to make sense of so much absurdity . . . " could you explain exactly WHAT absurdity you are talking about?? The stuff you posted or something from somewhere else? You are not being clear.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:56 PM
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25. just a palliative
after running through so much unreason and obtuseness, i had to write something that summed up some conclusions i came to.

do you have that smiley with big red lips that blows kisses?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:30 PM
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22. I had an epiphany once
so I took it out and played with it.

Maybe you need the bible-thumping decoder ring?

For 19.99 I can send you not one...but 2!!!..that's right, 2!!!! bible-thumping decoder rings!

and if you order now, I'll throw in the instructions to the secret handshake!

Act now! Don't delay! Salvation's just a phone call away!

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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:43 PM
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24. God wastes his time talking to believers
he should be trying to convince us unbelievers. Of course, tell that to a believer and they will tell you god is talking to you, you are just not listening

Where reason ends, faith begins.

Sheesh.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:51 PM
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26. Just give yourself a lobotomy
it worked for me...............
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