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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:47 AM
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Russian scientists who invented hangover cure make pill that keeps you dru
Telegraph
By Julius Strauss in Moscow
(Filed: 18/02/2005)

The makers of RU-21, the "miracle" hangover cure reputedly developed for Soviet spies, have developed a product to keep you drunk.

Spirit Sciences, which is based in California but has research facilities in Russia employing scientists who once worked on secret programmes for the Kremlin, have christened the new product RU-21 Red.

If you take a tablet you need less alcohol to stay drunk, they claim. Emil Chiabery, a co-founder of the company, told The Telegraph from his offices in Los Angeles: "I never drink and there's no personal story. But RU-21 Red prolongs drunkenness and enhances intoxication.''

RU-21, the company's original product, is sold as a natural dietary supplement in the US and Britain. It officially claims to help prevent long-term diseases associated with moderate alcohol intake.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:52 AM
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1. Cool! The Rooskies have re-invented Rohypnol!
--p!
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:55 AM
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2. RU-21 Red?
then take this...



peace
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:55 AM
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3. that could save me thousands on my budweiser budget n/t
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Sporadicus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:15 AM
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4. I Know a Hangover Substance That Will Keep You Drunk...
...water!

Not to mention 'hair of the dog.' :toast:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:38 AM
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5. Drunk Science- No Magic Pill
Drunk Science
By Karl J. Mogel
Aggie Science Columnist

<snip>
Many people dream of the magic pill that will let them drink as much as they want and be hangover free, and a new pill called RU-21 claims to be it. It claims to reduce hangovers because it reduces the toxic effects of alcohol. But does it? Inquiring minds want to know.

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The pill also contains sugars, which RU-21 claims will prevent the buildup of the toxin. But if the means by which they say this will prevent its production works, it will also prevent its {own} breakdown. If it were true, you could just eat candy and not get a hangover!

Literally, RU-21 is a sugar pill. There’s one additive, ascorbic acid, which might help reduce liver damage over the long term, but there’s been nothing to show that hangovers can be stopped with this pill. It is a food supplement and is not subject to Food and Drug Administration testing. Thinking that you might be able to get away with drinking more while on this pill will do more harm than good. Sorry — no magic pill!

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Maybe the both of you will enjoy the party more if you only drink what your body can handle.

More:
http://ktkgalaxy.net/forb/mind/2003/2003_10_01.html


See also:

A Netherlands news site, lindenburg.nl, referred to me when it came to the RU-21 pill. (Drunk Science) Their website is in Dutch, but you can find my name, and surprisingly, you can pick out half of what it says. Nevertheless, I plugged their article summary into a dutch-english translator, and here's what it came out to be: ***Real experts laugh. ' it is all nonsense ', the californische says expert Karl j. Mogel on questions of geïnteresseerden. He calls RU-21 a sugar pill (' eat rested a band '), to what vitamin (asorbic acid) has been added. It is a food supplement, nothing more. Sorry, no magical pill.*** Wow, I'm an expert! I was also contacted by someone in the netherlands who wanted to do a story on the new pill. I think this subject is going to keep coming back. I can't wait until the actual company gets wind of my skepticism. Whoa, someone who doesn't take our marketing claims on faith, lets take him out. http://www.lindenburg.nl/dagelinksdaily.htm







Different company, same issue:

"Notox® Anti-Hangover" Claims Challenged
Stephen Barrett, M.D.

In April 2004, the National Council of Better Business Bureau's National Advertising Division (NAD) recommended that A.D. Pharma stop making a long list of advertising claims for its alleged hangover remedy notox.® The company, which is located in of Satellite Beach, Florida, had begun marketing the product in 2002 with television advertising and a Web site. According to the company's Web site:

A.D. Pharma has introduced an exciting new product unlike anything previously available. More than just a simple hangover remedy or "energy" product, notox(R) is a breakthrough discovery. Alcohol intoxication research has led to the development of notox, the first all natural herbal supplement designed specifically to help combat the effects of alcohol consumption. notox is the result of eighteen years of research into medicinal plants and the effects of alcohol on the human body. notox is a proprietary formulation of standardized extracts of Ginseng and Orange. FDA classified as an herbal food supplement, notox is a welcome development for health-conscious people.

Test results show that notox will help combat the effects of alcohol intoxication based upon various factors: sex, weight, height, metabolism, level of alcoholic consumption, and overall physiology. . . . Two capsules taken 30 to 45 minutes before drinking any alcoholic beverage, notox helps to restore internal balance and vitality {1}.

<snip>

NAD officials investigated because they believed that the claims were extraordinary and if unsupportable could encourage dangerous conduct {3}. The company submitted documents that described a clinical study of ten men {4} and a laboratory experiments on mice {5}, both conducted by members of the traditional medicine faculty at Shenyang Pharmaceutical University in China. NAD concluded that that the human study was too small, too skimpily described, and not necessarily applicable to women and that the animal studies could not be legitimately applied to humans. NAD recommended that that the company stop stating or implying that notox®

More:
http://www.quackwatch.org/15Ads/notox.html


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