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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:57 PM
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What is the difference between the Pentocostal Church and Evangelical.
Looks like K Rove is behind all the church noises. Just typed on google search for Apostolic Congress and went on most of the sites, interesting and scarry. There was also a picture of many of the church leaders from a meeting that Rove hosted. If you have the time enter the many sites.

Georgie is the antichrist. I would add links but there are many sites to go through.

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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 04:59 PM
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1. Evangelical describes a range of churches
Pentecostal is a specific denomination that is evangelical in nature.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:00 PM
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2. They are basically the same except Pentecostals jump around more
and they aren't as self-righteous.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:01 PM
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3. There's all types of Evangelicals.
Baptist, Lutheran, etc. Pentacostals are just one of those groups.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:04 PM
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4. Well, I suggest you do a search on google
for Apostolic Congress. Either they are the same, or there is some infighting and that is why Pat Robertson and Falwell are out there on the TV.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:10 PM
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6. Oh, there are certainly differences
between the denominations. What I'm saying is that "Evangelical" is the general term and "Pentecostal" is much more specific. Catholics, Methodists, and Presbyterians are all Christians, but that doesn't mean they're all the same.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:10 PM
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7. Pentecostals are nuts.
These are the folks that don't allow women to cut their hair or wear makeup. I had an acquaintance at work a few years ago who finally got the guts to leave her insane church, and was receiving threats afterward from church members.

Apologies to any P's present, but for me, dictating my appearance ranks right up there with controlling my body for sheer entertainment value.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:13 PM
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8. Well, Karl Rove is Pentecostal
So between his views and those of the Evangelicals, we now know why we are at now.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 08:17 PM
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9. So is John Ashcroft.
Surprised?

FSC
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:31 AM
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11. they scare the hell out of me, the most woman hating of
all the fundie types in the south, all most as much as muslims, without the shroud. But alot of the women can't wear pants. They aren't allowed to wear any jewelry, even wedding rings.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:41 AM
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14. At the Pentecostal Church in my hometown, the women can wear pants
to Sunday service. They can wear jewelry and makeup too.

So not all are that strict.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:39 AM
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12. Not all Pentecostals are that strict.
Some are fairly mainstream Christian.

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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 09:42 AM
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21. Just going from my own experience,
which has not been a positive one.

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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:50 AM
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17. I had an interesting conversation with Pentecostal Holiness types
This was back in community college days. I was involved with the Baptist Student Union. So a group of us BSU kids (mostly white, casual) got into a friendly but spirited debate with Pentecostal Holiness kids (all black, all button shirts and ties). In the end, I found myself saying some things that the Holiness kids really grooved on, though I couldn't tell you what they were now. I found myself agreeing with the Southern Baptists half the time and the Holiness kids half the time. So what did I do? I wound up leaving them both behind. Funny how life works out that way.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 05:09 PM
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5. I'll let a religious scholar do the heavy lifting, but...
Evangelism means that you actively work to bring new members to the faith. It becomes very much a "way of life" thing. It's come to mean shorthand for any extraordinarily devout person, especially one who tries to convert you. They are also extremely concerned with matters of dogma and practice--logos, if you will. That's why there are so many splinter groups. The faith may be the same, but the rules vary, and it's all in the rules. They believe that there's a right way to believe.

Pentecostals follow a more mystical and less regimented tradition. They are less concerned with the nitty gritty rules and more involved with the emotional and spiritual experience, especially on an individual level. Pentecostals are the ones who (in the more extreme sects) handle snakes or speak in tongues. They're often looked down upon by evangelicals, who would find such displays unseemly. Having said that, Pentecostals can be evangelical if they try to convert you.

All this from an atheist. Now I have to lie down before I begin my treatise on dispensationalism.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:18 AM
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10. There are three "realms" of the church
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 12:22 AM by youthere
Liberal (Emphasis on God the Father)-focus=Creation
Evangelical(Emphasis on Jesus)-focus=crucifixion
Charismatic (emphasis on Holy Spirit)focus=resurrection

Keep in mind that "liberal" in this context has no connection to the "liberal" political label. All trinitarian churches recognize and celebrate all three realms but typically place great emphasis onto one or two of the areas.
Pentecostals are a denomination that emphasize the evangelical/charismatic realms.
Most of the "fundamental" churches fall into one or both of those realms (but not all...there are some liberal churches that are fundamental). Not all evangelicals are "fundies".
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:41 AM
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13. Input from a preacher's kid
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 12:42 AM by Lydia Leftcoast
Evangelical is a broad term that refers to any variety of Christian who believes that one must "accept Jesus Christ as one's Lord and Savior" and who believes in trying to convert others. Some Protestant denominations are entirely evangelical, while others have evangelical wings, including the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, which also has a liberal wing.

Pentecostals emphasize "receiving the gifts of the Holy Spirit," which includes what they call "speaking in tongues," but which is pretty obviously the cross-cultural phenomenon of trance. The largest and most well-known Pentecostal denomination is the Assembly of God, but there are other, smaller Pentecostal denominations, as well as independent congregations.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:49 AM
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16. Good explanation
Evangelisizing is actively recruiting or reforming the sinners. There is a bible quote they use to support this.

Pentecostal is a demonination, they are evangelicals too.

What is the difference between a fundamentalist and an evangelical?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:57 AM
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18. fundamentalist
has to do with interpretation and origin of the Bible. Fundies believe that the Bible is the inerrant direct word of God and interpret it literally (example: the world was created in 7 24 hour periods)
Not all evangelicals are fundamentalists.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:48 AM
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20. Fundamentalists are stricter--they're usually Biblical literalists
and impose rigid rules of behavior on their followers.

All fundamentalists are evangelicals, but not all evangelicals are fundamentalists. Jimmy Carter is an evangelical, but not a fundamentalist.
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Wheaty Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 12:45 AM
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15. Snakes?
don't some Pentecostal churches snake handle?
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 01:14 AM
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19. Some do.
Edited on Fri Feb-18-05 01:16 AM by youthere
Not all pentecostal churches do though. The pentecostal faith tradition tends to be more charismatic than evangelical (although they are evangelical too). There is a lot of emphasis on the "gift of tongues" (if you speak in tongues you have been baptized by the holy spirit). It's from a story in the book of ACTS in the Bible (Chapter 2). I think some of the Southern Baptist, and non-affiliated Baptist churches do more of the snake handling though.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:02 AM
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22. The Snake Handlers are an offshoot of the Pentacostals
Or offshoots--the very nature of Protestantism guarantees a multiplicity of variants. If they had all wanted to practice the same religion, they would have stayed Catholic!

The Charismatic Movement transcends denomination--there are even Catholic Charismatics. Some of the more extreme "Christians" distrust the Charismatics because of this ecumenical possibility.

The Baptists tend to be more conservative in their practice. The Southern Baptists have led the way in trying to bend the government to reflect their own beliefs.

Which is more troubling? People worshipping their God in undignified, emotional ways? Or dead-serious preachers in business suits, meeting with Bush & Co to design all our futures?


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TO Kid Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-18-05 10:20 AM
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23. Evangelism is a big tent
I know plenty of evangelical Christians who do not fit the "fundie" stereotype. Many are welcoming to people with different beliefs, many merely tolerate differences, and a few are scary. Kinda like the general population.
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