AP: Farmers Who Backed Bush Upset With Budget

[Bleacher Creature]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=509&ncid=509&e=33&u=/ap/20050217/ap_on_bi_ge/farm_scene

Thu Feb 17, 2:59 AM ET
By JOHN SEEWER, Associated Press Writer

TOLEDO, Ohio - Some farmers from battleground election states who campaigned and voted for President Bush (news - web sites) say they are not happy about proposed cuts in federal farm subsidies and other agriculture programs.

"We wouldn't call it a double-cross or anything like that, but I don't think this is going to sit real well," said Harold Bateson, whose family's grain farm covers 2,300 acres in northwest Ohio near Bowling Green.

(SNIP)

I don't usually relish in other people's misfortune, but excuse me while I go to play a tiny violin and drive around in my car with the Kerry/Edwards bumper sticker still affixed.

[ewagner]

1. Won't call it a double-cross?

denial, denial, denial, denial................

[fob]

7. It's NOT a double-cross, bush*s plans were always to screw these guys

and if they had let themselves hear the truth they wouldn't be so "shocked" today.

Freakin' Idiots.

[icehenge]

22. A little rough?

Sure I might agree with them they won't call
Bush a double-crosser. They still have other
hopes Bush has promised...

Hopefully he will break his other promises as well.

[shrike]

2. boo effin' hoo n/t

[qanda]

4. Add a boo and a hoo for me too

If all they care about is themselves then I'm glad they're getting screwed!

[ohioliberal]

3. I don't relish other's misfortune either, but

I truly agree with the tiny violin. Wake up people!

[LynnTheDem]

5. Awwwww poor wittle idiots.

Next time maybe find out the FACTS on your candidate BEFORE voting for him? And FACTS on actual tangibles such as how he plans to run the country would be a damn fine idear.

Ooooh KINKY.

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

6. Remember the 'Farmers/Ranchers for B-C' signs at rallies....

Saw plenty of them when Hardball was doing the college tour for the debates. :nopity:

[Itchinjim]

8. This Iowan sez;

Farmers? Fuck 'em, they got what they voted for.

[Hobarticus]

16. This fellow Iowan sees you, and raises you...

Fuck 'em and the horses they ride into town to pick up their subsidy checks on.

:evilgrin:

[Wapsie B]

33. Same here,

They voted for dumbo. Live with it.

[flygal]

19. This Montanan sez the same

at least the ho-mo-sech-ewww-awls can't date.

[ramapo]

9. Fool me once shame on you

Fool me twice shame on me....

That's too f'ing bad for the farmers.

[Ganja Ninja]

10. "We wouldn't call it a double-cross or anything like that"

Then you need to put down the corn squeezin's until your head clears. You got fucked by the man you just gave four more years in office. Better get use to the feeling. He doesn't need you or anyone else now. Say good by to your Social Security too. But don't call it a double cross or anything like that. Call it just deserts.

[cliss]

18. I agree.

How times can change. Recall, only a mere 3 months ago, how the Rot-publicans were cheering, riding high.....on top of the world. The "Farm Belt" showed its undying, never-ending support for BeelzeBush and his minions.

Things were pretty wonderful.......back then.

Now, they're about to lose their farm subsidies. It's going to be huge cut-backs. It's going to cause a lot of banruptcies, because farmers live a gambling existence, anyway. (they are usually deep in debt from lines of credit to finance the next year's crop, and then they keep their fingers crossed that the harvest will be good).

Many will sink like a stone. No tears from me. :smoke: :nopity:

[DrWeird]

11. Oh look, the farmers chickens came home to roost.

Maybe they should be more careful what they sow.

[Hobarticus]

12. Living in a farm state...and I'm not weeping either...

I saw lots of BUSH/CHENY signs in yards out in farmer's front lots, and along fencerows, before the elections.

Typical Republicans. "As long as I get mine, who cares?"

Now it's "Hey, I ain't gettin' mine!"

Screw 'em. I know my state economy's hinging on subsidies, but screw 'em anyway.

[DinahMoeHum]

13. Those hayseeds can go choke on their own crop. . .

we tried to warn them about Bush/Cheney, but they wouldn't listen.

Up against yourselves. You reap what you sow, mofos.

:nopity:

[Kikosexy2]

14. Boo....

f*#king Hoo! Farmer John go screwed--FACE IT!! bwwwahahahhhahaaha! "moral values" will have to save them now--NOT!

[Worst Username Ever]

15. Serves them right.

[deutsey]

17. Barnum was correct

Although there seems to be more than just one sucker born every minute these days.

[CityZen-X]

20. Do Farmers Own Guns?

Sword into plowshares, may become an oxymoron!

[depakid]

21. "We wouldn't call it a double-cross..."

What would you call it then?

When Clinton screwed progresives- over and over and over- we knew it was a double-cross.

I sometimes wonder just how much it will take to wake "conservatives" up to the fact that Bush is screwing them even worse than Clinton screwed us...

[DrGonzoLives]

23. The replies in this thread

just make me worry more and more about ever winning a presidential election again.

"Fuck 'em, they didn't vote for my guy!"

Brilliant attitude, y'all. Let's not look at this as an opportunity, let's gloat and drive them RIGHT BACK INTO THE GOP'S ARMS.

Such amazing political strategy at work. Do you people even really care about regular working people, or is it just a cover to explain to others why you're on the left?

[MsTryska]

24. I think you're a bit off-base.

the sentiment isn't "screw em they didn't vote for my guy"

but "screw 'em - they got exactly what they voted for."

[Piperay]

54. Yeah, that's my thinking

and it is about time that those who voted for the guy found out exactly what it is they voted for.

[DrGonzoLives]

56. Sure as hell sounds like it

Either way, it doesn't help anything, just a bunch of childish gloating.

[MsTryska]

57. I agree that it's gloating....

i hate seeing people get screwed, but i have to agree with the sentiment somewhat. let em sit in their own sh*t. THe next 4 years are gonna suck for all of us, so the more people that are aware they're getting screwed, the better, in the long run for all of us.

[MisterP]

26. you're giving DU too much credit: how many Ia. farmers think

"are DUers gloating about the irony? I couldn't possibly vote for them"
but we make a conventient scapegoat

[DrGonzoLives]

55. Yeah, that's what I said

DU is irrelevant except when it's not.

[bpilgrim]

58. you act as if we are the politicos

people are just venting, chill... remember NAFTA?

peace

[MadHound]

25. Well, while y'all are having your schadenfreude minute

You're getting screwed, as are your fellow rural Dems and liberals, by this subsidy cut also. Like those relatively cheap prices you're paying at the Stupormarket? Kiss them goodbye, for that subsidy cut is going to be passed directly on to the consumer. Like those cool farmers markets where small time family farmers sell directly to the public? Kiss them goodbye, because this subsidy cut will force most of the remaining small farmers out of business. Like having access to non-GM, organic, healthy food, even if you do have to pay a bit more for it? Kiss it goodbye, because this bill is going to ravage the organic farmers, and even if a few survive, who is going to be able to afford the prices, since they're going to be passing on the cost to you. Like those vast rolling acreages of trees and nature? Kiss them goodbye as land that hasn't been used in generations is going to be bought up, cleared, and put to use by the likes of Monsanto, ADM, et al. And that means more pollution in the air, in our streams, in our soil.

Don't you people get it? This bill doesn't just effect farmers and rural communities, it effects you, me, everybody. And while pissed off farmers are looking around for a solution, a vehicle for their anger, they come across you laughing hyenas, get pissed and move on. Whoops, there goes a vote for '06 and '08. Whoops, there goes another, and still yet, three more. Rather than pointing and laughing at rural folks, you should be reaching out to them, bringing them back into the fold. Don't you read your fucking history people? Some of the most radical populist movements were started and driven by pissed off farmers. Yeah, Reagan and the 'Pugs pulled them in for awhile over the moral issues schtick, but farmers are like anybody else, when push comes to shove, they'll go with their pocketbook everytime. You guys want to win next time? Well here is a goddamn block of people pissed as hell at Bushco that you could be courting, yet here you are, pointing and laughing instead. Not a bright move.

You also seem to be forgetting about those of us who are lifelong liberals and Dems who also farm, and live out in the rural areas. If our friends and neighbors go down, we're going down too. You think that is funny? I've put down my roots in the wilds of Missouri, and I like it there. I don't want to see my neighbor go bankrupt, and have his land bought up by some corporate farmer who puts in a factory hog farm. That would ruin me, flat out. I wouldn't be able to sell my place, and I don't have the resources to just eat the loss, and I certainly don't want to live with the stench and runoff from a corporate hog farm. And yet you GD fools are sitting there laughing. Why don't you shut the fuck up for a minute and think! Use your head for something besides a hatrack. Gee, ever think you might NEED the rural population. I haven't seen the Dems winning much around here lately, looks like they're lacking in votes. Could be because they've alienated entire segments of the population with their schadenfreude and snotty attitude. Ya think!

One other point to keep in mind. When the shit hits the proverbial fan, when then economy goes bust, and Peak Oil wipes out civilization as we know it, it is always been the rural folks who manage to survive, while the urbanites drop in droves. So don't piss off your rural bretheren, you could very well need to go live with one someday. After all, when push comes to shove, we do have a food supply year around, while the food in an entire city will only last three days on average. Think about it.

[sendero]

27. For fucks' sake dude..

... this is a DEMOCRATIC message board. Farmers are not, I repeat not lurking around thinking "maybe I'll go read what DU has to say, and then decide who I'm voting for".

I say stuff here I would never say to anyone in person. If I manned a phone bank, I'm not going to chide people for voting Rep.

But - everywhere in the media you here Repukes claiming we are washed up, stupid, liberal douchebags. They can kiss my fucking ass, and we'll see who is washed up in the fullness of time.

And yes, I feel NOT ONE BIT OF SYMPATHY FOR ANY FARMER WHO VOTED FOR BUSH. Not only are they fucked, but millions of others as well. They have a lot to atone for, and ignorance is no excuse of the facts.

[MadHound]

28. Yet again, a demonstration of a fine headshaped hatrack!

A: I'm a farmer(of sorts)
B: I'm a lifelong Dem(though that is quickly changing)
C: There are many many others like me, I know a fair number out in my neck of the woods. Where in the hell did you think a lot of the "back to nature" hippies went, along with their kids? Connect the dots.
D: You never know who is paging through DU. We get a fine share of rural folks, and another big share of Pukes. We're getting publicity on places within the MSM, which will bring in those who are curious.

And apparently you fail to comprehend that this bill will effect YOU TOO! Where the hell do you think food comes from? Do you think that farmers live in some miraculaous economic vacumn? Geez dude, buy a clue! Basic law of economics, pass the extra cost onto the consumer. Gee, that would be you living in the 'burbs.

And you also don't study history, either recent or not so recent. Farmers used to be one of those groups of people that was in the back pocket of the Democrats, until Reagan and his faux morality took them away. This is a golden opportunity to get them back, but noooooo, people are going to piss it away, all for the opportunity for a good mean spirited laugh. Hell, I'm a liberal, yet as you can see, am quite pissed at the schadenfreude and mean spirited generalzation of rural folks, what the hell do you think that a not so liberal farmer coming by will think? And yes, they do drift through, you would be suprised at who comes through, I certainly have been. In fact, it wouldn't even have to be a farmer, how about Limpballs? It is well known that he trolls through here to pick up the dirt, gee, wouldn't this be a real kicker for him to broadcast.

This is about the fourth or fifth thread of this pointless, mean spirited bullshit, and it is getting old quick. I thought you folks had gotten it out of your system by now, but apparently not. Oh well, cut off your nose to spite your face. We'll see how your fucking spite serves you in your next losing election.

[shrike]

30. Chill out a little, MD

DU is full of people who worked their asses off, and still work their asses off, to defeat George Bush and his policies. A lot of them are still plenty mad at people who did not, would not, listen and voted against their best efforts yet again. This message board for lefties (and centrists) is one of the few places they can safely blow off steam. Let them do it. I do it myself, as you can see on this thread. Once they're done venting, they'll go back to fighting for the best interests of people like the (Republican) farmers who'll call them pinko liberal commies for their trouble. (Not that you and your friends would do such a thing, of course.)

[MadHound]

31. Sorry friend, but the shortsightedness around here is astounding

I let them blow off their steam on the rural folks, at least four threads worth. But I'm sorry, I call bullshit on this continuing beating that is being dealt out on the rural folks. And gee, it isn't like there weren't some of us who also worked hard this last election, out here in the wilds. And yes, we're just as disappointed as you city folks are. But damn, give it up already! It has been beaten to death, and the only thing these kinds of threads do is simply alienate more and more people. We're supposed to be the party of compassion, yet here we go, chortling our happy little ass off again.

I live with rural people, and one of the things about liberals that pisses them off the most is this liberal attitude, this gleeful joy that some, if not most, liberals take in misfortunes that fall upon those that they consider beneath them. It is this kind of schadenfreude that has driven rural America, NASCAR dads, Reagan Dems, all of those folks away from the party in droves. It is the sense of elitism that pervades the party, that Dems are somehow better than the hicks and rednecks. And there is very little effort, excepting on the local level to reach out to these people.

I've worked Dem politics, and when I talk to college kids and young urbanites, the notion of going out to the sticks and drumming up votes is appalling to them. "Oh My Gawwd, why should we go out there!" This attitude comes across in Democratic politics in many many ways, not just here, but throughout the party. That is one reason Kerry couldn't get the rural vote, was because to rural folks, he exuded that selfsame attitude, and didn't reach out in any meaningful way to farmers and bring them into his vision. In fact Democrats haven't been reaching out to farmers for a generation now, at least not in any meaningful way. So Reagan comes along, the Republicans come along, and boom, they've got the rural vote locked up.

This is an opportunity friend, one that we should take. But instead, all I see is 'burbed Dems sitting back and chortling their ass off about the end of subsidies, not realizing just how much this is going to effect them. And not understanding what a gift from God this is, an opportunity to sweep back a traditional Democratic demographic back into our camp. Sorry, but this just burns me no end. For these people, while laughing at the misery of rural Republicans are also laughing at what misery this legislation is going to cause me, and other rural Dems. Nope, they just laugh away at the misfortunes of all of us rural hicks. Fuck 'em. I'm going Green anyway, this sort of shit just sealed it. You folks want ABB next time? Go look for it in the city. Along with those extra Dem votes that came from my county.

[sendero]

40. It isn't about rural folks my friend..

... it is about rural folks who voted for Bush**.

And I know a few rural folks and they are by no means all Rep.

[shrike]

41. You're right about the attitudes towards "country bumpkins"

Being from the rural midwest, I've seen it myself.

But please understand that liberals have gotten their share, and more, of vitriol from the right -- and from the NASCAR crowd, I'm afraid. A lot of us leftists feel we're giving them a taste of their own medicine. I know people who did the happy dance when Bush was elected only to feel some buyers' remorse already. I don't say anything to their faces, but boy it's getting tough for me to feel sorry for them.

Nothing wrong with going Green. This country needs to move beyond a two-party system.

[sendero]

36. Try to follow this...

Numero uno I am not, nor do I claim to be or strive to be, a spokesman for the Dem party. I'm just a pissed-off citizen venting on a computer board.

Numero dos-o is - I don't give a shit. Yes that's right. I spent 15 years trying to talk to the right and I am SO FUCKING PISSED OFF AT THE MORONS WHO VOTED THE SECOND TIME FOR BUSH - I DON'T GIVE A FUCK WHAT THEY THINK OF ME OR WHY. THEY ARE STUPID, IMMORAL FUCKTARDS WHO VOTED TO KILL MORE INNOCENT PEOPLE IN IRAQ, WHO VOTED TO REWARD LIARS AND THIEVES, WHO VOTED FOR A BUNCH OF BOGUS VALUES LIKE KEEPING FAGS OUT OF THE CHAPEL AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WHO ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID FOR ME TO CARE ABOUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

You are the one with the grok deficit - these people will never be swayed by our words, we are stupid liberals, they only give a shit about themselves. When they vote Dem again, AND THEY WILL, it will be because that looks like the only way they can survive, that it is in their interests. I don't really have a problem with that - but I do have a problem with the FACT that it would have been in all of America's best interest had these cretins never taken the White House in the first place. Fuck everyone who falls for being led around by the nose via the "values" bullshit. They have shit for brains, every single fucking one of them.

Limpballs is not going to broadcast JACK SHIT about Bush* farm cuts. He knows his audience.

And finally, I'm one of those future back-to-the-land folks. I have my 40 acres and I will be there as soon as my kids leave high school.

I don't want any subsidies from the government and I think they ARE BAD ECONOMIC POLICY ALL AROUND. Those subsidies cause HIGHER PRICES AT THE SUPERMARKET as often as they do lower. As a Dem, I could support some types of help for family farmers - things like subsidised crop insurance comes to mind. But not direct payments to not grow or grow certain things, and no artificial price supports.

It's time for farming to be a free-market enterprise, like the majority of farmers claim the economy is supposed to work. They asked for it, they got it, and I hope they like it.

[MadHound]

43. Congratulations, you are officially part of the problem friend!

Tell you what, come back and talk to me after you've lived in the country awhile, after that family farm next door to you goes under and is bought up by a corporate hog farm. Yep, that farm that was keeping afloat with subsidies. Come talk to me when you're simply soaked with the stench of hog shit, and you can't sell your forty acres, and you can't afford to move. Then come back and talk to me. Until then, you're just another part of the problem. Congratulations.

[Tsiyu]

45. And you're blaming posters on DU?

Uh, sweetie, I'm a (very small) farmer and a rural dweller as well, so please don't intimate that you speak for all of us. WE didn't cause these problems. * and those who voted for him caused these problems.

One billion is being cut from Veterans programs. But any Vet who voted for * had better not whine to me about it.

It's time to pay the piper, friend. Perhaps you can't understand the bit of gloating, but we are past sympathy here. There was NO SYMPATHY for me in those ignorant farmers' votes. And goddamn it, I'm no better than they are. Now I have no sympathy for them. We're even.

[sendero]

47. I did my due diligence....

... that isn't going to happen.

Nice try tho. And for the record, the problem is people who think they can "clean up the middle east" with someone else's blood and dollars. Where did those Bush** voters think the $200 billion DOWN PAYMENT on this folly was going to come from? After all, the Reps are the "hard realists" when it comes to economics.

It isn't just farmers who are going to suffer, it is everyone who isn't rich.

And one more thing - would you PLEASE SHOW ME SOME PROOF that the farm programs we have right now don't benefit corporate behemoth farms more than they do family farms anyway. A link would be good.

[TWiley]

49. I can understand your sentiments.

It is also true that the farm community as brought a few bad things into our countries history as well.

Slave ownership was primarily a farm thing, and the migrant workers continue to be exploited by the farm industry today.

The "barnyard" concept of animal breeding is central to the philosophies of a master race and the class system. Every animal has something it is good for, and it is never to be used for anything else.

Many of the penicillin resistant diseases of today come from the sloppy farm methods used in America. Farmers virtually overdose chickens, pigs, and cattle on antibiotics instead of simply keeping their cages clean like the European farmers do.

There has been widespread speculation that the weight gain drugs given to farm animals just before slaughter are contributing to the obesity problem in America.

Farmers are also large polluters of the environment with the chemicals they use. Their use of DDT and other pesticides inflicted tremendous harm.

Farmers are typically conservative republican, and that is something I consider to be a character flaw.

The farm bureau poisoned the State of Michigan with fire retardant mixed in animal feed, and then launched a major cover up.

I know what you are about to type. "Then don't eat ever again" or "move to Europe and eat their food" or some similar remark.

The point is that the farm community has its flaws like any other does. And I have similar feelings.

The farmers wanted to screw the rest of us by voting for the conservatives, and now they cry because they are getting the same fucking they wanted to give the rest of us through the bushtapo.

[Tansy_Gold]

50. No, you're barkin' up the wrong tree, MH

It's not the subsidies most of us are angry about, it's the stupidity of the conservative farmers who voted for boooosh and are now whining about the fact that he's doing exactly what they should have expected him to do and what they would have WANTED him to do if it didn't affect them personally.

Subsidies are, sad to say, a facet of the non-local economy. When farmers supplied the food for their local community, the market could handle the ups and downs of good years and bad years. Unfortunately, few farmers still operate in a strictly local economy. And there are too many people who have no direct access to "the farm" to obtain their food. It's urbanization and industrialization that have created the environment in which government subsidies are almost a necessity to keep the farm goods flowing into the markets and bellies of the urban populace.

But the corporatization of food production has also fucked up the whole subsidy mechanism. The subsidy that was intended to afford the family farmer a cushion so he could weather the lean years and enjoy the fat ones became instead a windfall to the corporate farmer, who was then able to apply more and more and more pressure on the independent.

The small farmer knows that certain subsidies are his life's blood, and in the current global economy, we'd better know it, too. But when the same small farmer who knows he needs those subsidies votes for the fucking moron who will strip him of those subsidies, what can you do but look at the asswipe and say, "Well, under boooosh's subsidy-cutting budget you may lose your farm and you may starve and your children may have to get jobs at Wal-Mart and the corporate pig farm will take over and your woodlot will be cut down for a 12-to-the-acre housing development, but hey, you voted for boooooosh because he wouldn't let the queers get married!! You got what you voted for, you stupid fuck. And you want me to feel sorry for you? I don't fucking think so!"

Most 21st century Americans aren't suited for back to the land. Take a quick look at PBS's "Frontier House." Hubby and I crack up every week at that show, because we can always tell ahead of time which of those people will whine and moan about how crappy life is in 1883. Unless there's a massive change of heart in this country -- and I sure as hell ain't holdin' MY breath -- or a complete and total and abrupt collapse of the economy and the distribution system, a few of us will go back to the land but most won't.

What we have to find is a way to compromise, and the problem is that the wingnuts ain't in the mood for any kind of compromise that requires THEM to give up anything. Well, they're gettin' a taste of their own damn medicine and it's goin' down a bit bitter.

Fuck 'em. They're takin' us down with 'em and we could've saved 'em, but if all they're concerned about is keepin' men from marryin' men and women from marryin' women and making sure their white Christian straight God is back in all the schools, then obviously they didn't care very much about their farms. They got what they wished for.


Tansy Gold

[bpilgrim]

59. so you can throw personal attacks at fellow DU'ers

but you get pissed when folks are venting at bush supporters?

get a grip

peace

[tibbiit]

52. right on bro

you said that very well! I feel exactly the same.
thanks
tib

[KansDem]

34. This observation also worries me...

I don't want to see my neighbor go bankrupt, and have his land bought up by some corporate farmer who puts in a factory hog farm.

I wonder if this is the "Master Plan?" To run family farmers out of business so that corporate farming can move in, buy the land cheap, and hire the out-of-work farmer at "minimum wage?"

Not only that, but corporate farming is not good for the environment:
Clean Streams
Friends of the Kaw

IIRC, I read a couple years ago that the Missouri River is the most polluted river in the US, with the Kaw River coming in at fourth place. The confluence for both these rivers is only a few miles from where I work.

[Hobarticus]

35. Certainly ties in with the Wal-Martization of our economy, doesn't it? eom

[MadHound]

39. You are spot on!

It has been the goal to put family farmers out of business for the past thirty years, employ the dispossed as cheap hired help, rape the land, all for fun and mainly profit. And once you have that kind of monopolistic action taking place, we're all going to pay, for we all have to eat.

In addition, big agras' focus is now turning towards putting the organic farmer out of business. All of this legislation will do just that. In addition, many many acres of now fallow, natural land will be forced under the plow, all for corporate profits.

Yes, it is the WalMartization of our food supply, which we need to stridently oppose.

[bunkerbuster1]

29. this son-of-a-farmer whose dad still owns some acreage

on the Great Plains says FUCK YOU ALL WITH A RUSTY PITCHFORK!

Thanks, I feel better.

[in_cog_ni_to]

38. Did your dad vote for Bush?

If so, he should have known better. WE DID. If not, I feel bad for your dad. See how that works?

[bunkerbuster1]

51. My dad's always officially kept his vote a secret.

Crazy, huh?

For the record, he considers himself a lifelong Democrat.

But he also, obviously, admires Bush.

FWIW, he doesn't get a dime of federal subsidy cash from his farmland, never has; it's a matter of principle for him. So the proposed changes wouldn't affect him.

I merely mentioned my heritage so's to preemptively deflect anyone who thought I knew jack squat about that life.

[blm]

32. Blame the MEDIA who never explains Bush's actual policies to the people

who depend on them for information.

[in_cog_ni_to]

37. They may not like it, but

they will turn around and vote repuke in 2006 and 2008. They never learn. Like Malloy said last night..."The only party to EVER give a rats ass about you is the Democratic Party." They're clueless. How come WE knew what this administration would do and the repuke voters didn't? Answer: BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW. No sympathy from me. Sorry. We told ya so.

[Rabrrrrrr]

42. "Yep. Our farm's agonna go into the shitters, and ma and me are gonna

have to live in a plywood hut and eat cat food, but at least those gays won't be gettin' married."

I, too, don't want to wish bad things on people, but I still have to say "You blind, stupid fucks - here's a farming metaphor for you: 'you reap what you sow'. Boo fuckin' hoo. You made your bed of shit, now go sit in it."

[Tsiyu]

44. Did these fools really think * cared about small farms?

God, people are SO STUPID!!!!!! They trust a man who wouldn't know his ass from a combine? Who supports and promotes the huge farm agenda? Who sucks Monsanto's dick? Come on. Gimme a break...

If they believed his hype they deserve whatever they lose. they didn't give a fuck about me and my kids when they voted.

And I'm growing my own veggies this year anyway. Screw anyone who voted for Shrub and now wants to whine.

[KamaAina]

46. One, two, three....AWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!

:nopity: :nopity: :nopity:

[Clark2008]

48. Is it time to say, "I told you, so," yet? n/t

[Piperay]

53. Bwahahahahahaha

what did they expect from a cheat and a liar??? :nopity: