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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:41 AM Original message |
Why is the public becoming so hostile to science? |
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count_alucard (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. one word answer |
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LondonReign2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. No, one word answer |
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RPM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. If it has to be a one word answer - you are right |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Well said...we are the most disgarceful generations of Americans ever |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:26 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. And it's not cuz the world is too hard to understand.... |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
61. NeoFascism |
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count_alucard (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #25 |
82. well |
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benburch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
2. Because they are told that Science disproves their God |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Yup! |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. Waaaayyy back when I was in 8th grade, I wanted to be a |
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tjwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:28 AM Response to Reply #47 |
96. Yep. And then they wonder why all the tech and lab jobs... |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
3. The media has been speaking of it in a condescending tone. |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
4. Just started reading an edited volume on the subject |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:26 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I agree... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
46. True about the international dispersion of scientists |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #46 |
83. Let's see if I can distill this a bit... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. yes, yes, and yes again. n/t |
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Viking12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #83 |
108. Excellent insights. May I add my 2 cents? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #108 |
115. Good point,. You may have noticed... |
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John BigBootay (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 01:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. I would say that we are in a period of transition-- |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 06:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
135. Science always involved hope... |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #115 |
136. Are they refusing or have they not developed the capacity? |
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pabloseb (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
130. I hope you realize that |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. yes that was my point-two way street |
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Toby109 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
5. Because science is based in fact, |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
6. Rightwingnut moran ignorance; more proof of the myth of "liberal media". |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. "round up all rightwingnuts and inter them in camps"?!? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
66. I was just letting out my inner angst |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. You are being cyberstalked by Busheviks? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #72 |
79. Yeppers. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. They don't understand it |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
9. It's probably God's will |
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radwriter0555 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
10. Honey when people are stupid enough to believe in gods &mythical men |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
11. Because over the past 30 years, we have dumbed down |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
127. If we allow Israel to suck us into a war with Iran, what will oil do? |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
12. Christian Fundamentalism |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
13. Press toward anti-intellectualism |
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moggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Anti-intellectualism isn't the whole story |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Sokal critique's people that aren't relativists though |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
14. "Where are the scientists and thinkers going to come from?" |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:13 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. Some will still persevere and pursue scientific thought even |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I agree, but I also have faith in human nature... |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. No, they'll come from overseas. |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
15. As President of Harvard might say. America is becoming Feminized |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Hey now. I'm a girl and I can do science just fine. |
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GR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. Supernatural Thinking Is Rampant.... Even In Films.. |
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BurgherHoldtheLies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. Welcome to the dark ages. nt |
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StClone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
20. Apropos: Cults, quacks and gurus Wisconsin Public Radio Show |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Thanks! Will have to look for that book too. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
22. When you have FAITH you don't need no stinkin' science. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. Check this thread |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
26. Kid argues with teacher: "women have one less rib than men do." |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
27. It's not on standardized tests |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:46 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Very true. I'm appalled at the lack of science in the early years |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #29 |
35. I agree! But this gives me the excuse, I mean REASON, to |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Yep! (We have butterflies that just came out of their cocoons!) |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. All of which |
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Hell in a Handbasket (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
28. jaysus wouldnt approve. nt |
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smirkymonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
31. The use of the word "objectivity" would be hilarious if the |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
32. Anti-intellectualism |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Not only their *religion* but their continued political dominance |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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CindyDale (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
34. You've really got to wonder why they'd want America to be behind |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
36. Here's your answer! |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:07 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Thanks for the link! I knew some of this, and am not surprised to |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Think "cells" |
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CindyDale (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #36 |
56. According, to that article, there really is an American Taliban |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
40. I'd say it's a bunch of different reasons. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
58. "desire to believe outweighs boring facts" |
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gbwarming (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
59. I think it's a government shift to undermine _some_ science for biz, fundy |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
42. I've |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
44. I think progress is happening a frightening pace |
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ChairOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Simple fact: A basic education gets one thru 80% of the new stuff..... |
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ernstbass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
52. It has always been this way |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Pro-religion and anti-intellectualism are characteristics of the W Regime |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
55. Because science tell them the ugly truth. Religion tells them... |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
57. Apparently Charity and Justice have been replaced |
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John BigBootay (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
62. Can you provide evidence that backs up your premise... |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
95. You're correct that I started bitching without first doing a lit search... |
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John BigBootay (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #95 |
132. I googled on "public trust of science" and got-- |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
63. Atheists are to blame to some degree. |
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chaumont58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Jesus Christ, get real! |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. You proved my point. |
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chaumont58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. Organized religion would ban all science if it could |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #80 |
139. "Organized religion would ban all science"? |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. How fascinating that you equate atheism and science (nt) |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. There's a reason for that. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Interesting assumption |
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YNGW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Not suggesting that at all. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Somehow that is better than what you first typed |
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DrGonzoLives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #63 |
88. No |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:02 AM Response to Reply #63 |
90. wow that's one broad brush you've got there |
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BigMcLargehuge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
103. LOL! Yeah, it's our fault... |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #63 |
107. Well, the foundations of science are actually in agnosticism... |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
65. because they all haven't got cancer yet. |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
69. Read "Demon-Haunted World" |
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Southpaw Bookworm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
91. "Real Patriots Ask Questions" |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
74. Two words |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
75. Dark Ages |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
77. because lumpen proles cannot expand their concept of god |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-05 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
81. A part of it is jealousy. |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:21 PM Response to Reply #81 |
129. Maybe in California... |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
84. They are simpleminded and lazy. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
85. We do not value science! |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
86. Check this out and wonder no more... |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. WTF!??? |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Oh, please do... Be my guest! |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #86 |
97. Thats a mock site |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Help me out... |
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Az (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
112. It can usually be found |
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atommom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Alas, it was too good to be true... |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #101 |
116. Check out the connecting links... |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. Anyway... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
89. because an uninformed public is easily deceived |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
92. I don't know, but people who run around saying evolution is just a theory |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #92 |
102. Some don't know the difference between "evolution" and "natural selection" |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
98. Because we've become a decadent culture in decline |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Great post! |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. Thanks, Teena... |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #98 |
124. Spot on, old chap!... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
105. Reality is too complex and impersonal for stupid people. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Stupid people? No. Lazy and ignorant people? Yes. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Actually, I meant stupid. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. No, they're not the same. |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. Sorry, I'm still right. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #118 |
131. Yes, it is about semantics -- but I think it's an important distinction |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. "...I'm just looking to frame this in the best possible way." |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #114 |
140. I agree with you, IC: it is wilfull ignorance |
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amazona (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
109. because science isn't giving them the answer they wanted |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:07 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. That's not it at all... |
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thedude (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
110. example of sscientific ignorace from a science (well, engineering) student |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 12:44 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. Engineers are some of the stupidest students I've met. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Several of my fellow engineering students |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 07:20 PM Response to Reply #123 |
141. When I taught at a university that had a lot of technical departments, |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. Dude, they are at a state college in Iowa. |
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heidler1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
121. No Child needs to know the truth. That way they are all behind, but equal |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
126. Enter the new generation of Good Consumers! |
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misanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
122. Back in the '70s,... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
128. Lack of critical thinking skills |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
137. This is going to be controversial, but I blame local control of schools |
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CHIMO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-18-05 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
138. Don't Have An Answer |
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