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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:14 PM
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What do you all think of Lieberman's Medikids plan?
Not a big fan of Joe, yet I do like this idea. No welfare office sign-ups, etc. Simply this. As soon as you are born you recieve a Medikids card and you have insurance until the age of 25. Birth certificate, SS # and medical coverage. Not a bad concept. Now, I am an advocate of a single payer system -which there is really no reason we shouldn't have one except pharmaceutical and insurance cash counts more than dying kids in our country- but, as of now, that is a pipe dream until closer steps are taken to that finality. Just curious on other opinions on this.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:17 PM
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1. It's A Start...
Does he have a universal plan for the long-term?
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:19 PM
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2. I think it's a logical place to start
I think a few other candidates (Dean and Graham come to mind) favor an incremental approach to expanding health coverage, starting with children, then their uninsured parents, and then early retirees.
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:20 PM
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3. I like the 'cover everyone' part of it.
otherwise you have medical care for those who have money, and medical care for those who don't. And as you all know, those are very different. The problem will be ensuring payments to providers - not middlemen - are fair.
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Oracle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:28 PM
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4. Too little, too late...fuck Lieberman!
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 12:29 PM by Oracle
As if anything this fuck does...we are going to believe he's something more than a kiss ass republican slimy stay the course, don't make waves, moderate piece of shit!

I don't know, am I making myself clear on Lieberman?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:34 PM
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5. you're definitely right
I was thinking somewhere along the lines of this being a possible goal for the party to put forth into Congress, etc. Or for a different candidate to incorporate the concept into his/her plan. Lieberman is too much of a Bush apologist to get my sympathy. I can stand people showing dash and possibly being wrong, but this guy advocated the rape of our country, besides standing idly by, and that I cannot forget. Rove has to eat up all that "Dean Depression" type bullshit Joe has been slinging out. KKKarl is taking notes on Lieberman's blueprint to destroy the Demo party.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:39 PM
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6. Band Aid.
It doesn't address the core problem and that is taking the for profit (traded on the stock exchange) health care industry out of health care.
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:46 PM
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8. I think a lot of parents would be happy with that band aid
We've seen how far the "all or nothing" approach has gotten us. If Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson weren't able to get universal health care through the Congress back in the days where Democrats representaed a solid majority of the electorate, I don't see how the next Democratic president is going to get it done, especially since the House is virtually certain to remain under Republican control until the next redistricting.

So in the meantime, what's so terrible about trying to get universal coverage for children?
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:44 PM
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7. Too little, too late
better than nothing, I guess. But frankly, I would love to see health care not tied to your job, for working age adults. You lose your job, then all of the sudden you have to pay hundreds a month for health care. It makes no sense at all, and it hurts small businesses who can't afford to pay for health care for their employees. Big companies do all sorts of stuff like limiting hours to "part time" 39.5 hours a week so they don't have to pay for it.

I don't even neccessarily want the government to pay for my health care, if they would just regulate the insurance companies so they are not screwing us over I would be happy.

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