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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 04:21 AM
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PNAC site gone??
My bookmark didn't bring it up and using a search engine,
it seems to have disappeared.

I wonder why Republicans/Big Business are running scared.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:47 PM
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1. Not gone.. Hell, They are PROUD of it ...
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:50 PM
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6. The site disappeared down the memory hole...
Google's cached pages are still accessible (sans graphics, tho...)
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:50 PM
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7. I can't get in either. Connection refused. ......n/t
TYY
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:51 PM
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9. "We can't find "http://www.newamericancentury.org"
That's what your link (and my bookmark) gets me. Maybe their webmaster is working on the site OR it's really gone and your cache needs a good cleaning. ;)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:02 AM
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54. http://www.newamericancentury.org/
it is still there, though a tad buggy, will have to get it into my puter before it goes
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:54 PM
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11. I just clicked it and it all came up for me
:shrug:
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:58 PM
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12. Hmmmm, sumsing is vierd.....
But, ve haff vays off makeeng you talk, SoCalDem!! :smoke:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 04:08 PM
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41. Me Too! got right in.
wish they would go away.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:36 PM
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34. JUST DID A SCREEN CAPTURE of PNAC..
I was not lying when I said I could get in..It's really odd that no one else can get the link to work :shrug:


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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:40 PM
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35. Is that AOL?
You could be looking at a cached copy on AOL proxy servers. In any case, if there's anything you want to save, you might want to do it now.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:33 PM
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42. Can you get the actual numeric IP address?
I'm thinking maybe they unregistered the domain, and it hasn't propagated to all the DNS's, including yours.
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angka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:12 AM
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51. here
domain newamericancentury.org = 63.219.143.152

i get a valid ping response from this IP. http server is down, ftp connection refused (as if).
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:47 PM
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2. I just tried connecting
And got "connection refused." :shrug:
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:49 PM
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4. It is there
google PNAC - it comes up in all it's glory
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:49 PM
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3. Wouldn't it be a kick in the pants if they actually took it down?
I can't access either, but I have no doubt that all has been archived. :)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:49 PM
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5. Doesn't work for me either
Hmmmmm...
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protect freedom impeach bush now Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:50 PM
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8. The PNAC (Nazis) are proud they want world domination
The PNAC fascists are very public about their
lust for world domination, as were the Nazis.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:52 PM
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10. Hey!! This one works!!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:07 PM
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14. Their links to the actual site are down too.
Hope someone has copied the site for historical reference and evidence in the forthcoming treason trials....
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:09 PM
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15. Oh yes, lots of PDF's saved on 1,000's of HD's!!!
Well, at least on mine anyway. :)
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:58 PM
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48. Hey is that sign up for E-mail cool ?
:toast:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 01:59 PM
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13. I'm able to get it
but it's kind of out of date.

They don't seem interested in examining what they've wrought. And they dare call themselves a think tank.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:38 PM
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16. I cannot get in - Cannot find server
from Southern California ....
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:46 PM
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17. Cannot find server, The page cannot be displayed
from Virginia
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:51 PM
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18. How odd
It works fine for me..
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:55 PM
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19. TRY THIS LINK...maybe you can get to it from this one
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:58 PM
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20. That link went down the memory hole too!
Looks like they are erasing their tracks. They don't want the media to find out that the invasion of Iraq was part of a grand plan of global conquest.

This is the stuff that conspiracy theories are made!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:59 PM
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23. That is FUCKED UP...
...especially because I was thinking yesterday that it would be a good idea to grab the entire site in case they take it down.
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:58 PM
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22. connection refused. None of the links work for me
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:06 PM
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25. Uh-uh
Maybe you're looking at your browser cache? You can find out by holding down SHIFT (CTRL if you're using Explorer) and clicking refresh. That'll force a refetch from the server. I really don't think the site is available, because I can't raise it through a proxy (Google translation) either.
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no_arbusto Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:00 PM
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24. Not working in Riverside, CA
Weird
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:08 PM
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26. BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!
NAAAAAAA.... LOL!!! Dey think dey slick. Dey ain't slick, sie stinken zum Himmel! Naahhhh, dey do a SBD UP IN EVERBODIES FACE an nobody smelled it. Fart threads in the Lounge, anyone? :silly:
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 02:58 PM
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21. I can't get in either nt
nt
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:10 PM
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27. Alright we know what we gotta do then...
...lets start picking the stuff off of Google and saving it...post here what you've got and we'll make efficient use of our time.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:14 PM
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28. Rebuilding America's Defenses (HTML version)
check.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:17 PM
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29. I've the entire "Rebuilding America's Defenses" PDF
uploaded to a couple different servers. I'm be happy to share, just pm me if you want it and I'll shoot you a link.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:19 PM
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30. Ha actually...
...I dont know what else is on there worth getting.
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:23 PM
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31. Letters to Clinton, Mission Statement, & Signatories
eom
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:51 PM
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38. My son saved stuff
We've got Statement of Principles, About PNAC, Letter to Newt Gingerich/Lott 5/29/98, Letter to Clinton 1/26/98, Letter to Clinton 8/10/99, Letter to Bush 11/25/2002, Letter to Daniel McKivergan 10/15/2002, Letter to Bush 9/20/2001, PDF 9/2000 Rebuilding America's Defenses, Letter to Bush 4/3/2002, Post Iraq 3/19/2003, Post Iraq II 3/28/2003, Blair Shirac Iraq 2/27/2003, Daniel McKivergan French Foreign Policy 2/26/2003, Gary Schmidt on Richard Perle on Iraq 2/24/2003, William Kristol Senate FRC 2/7/2002, Robert Kagan on Politicians 1/31/2003, Letter to Bush 1/23/2003,
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:50 PM
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47. I have almost everything
I saved everything related to global domination, defense, etc., to my harddrive. About 30 documents I'd guess. If anybody might want things in the future, bookmark the page for future reference I guess.
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:26 PM
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32.  Glad I'm not the
only one who had trouble with this.

So it does appear that they are attempting to erase
their tracks. Cool. It won't work.

I am very happy lots of people have saved the entire
site and others have saved parts of it. Great!!!
Good job people. I wish I had thought of it.

I do hereby promise myself that I will save sites
or articles in the future.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:28 PM
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33. It might just be
a temporary outage.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:45 PM
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36. That's what I think but I couldn't get it either
but just because you can't connect with the server doesn't mean it's gone for good.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 03:46 PM
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37. I've even got a hard copy of that one
Just in case.

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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 04:04 PM
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39. Works
for me.

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electricmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 04:08 PM
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40. Using the Wayback Machine
I couldn't find any Iraq articles other than the letter to Clinton. Even the button for Iraq/MiddleEast is missing.

Very odd if you ask me and I don't even own a tin-foil hat (yet).

http://www.archive.org/
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:46 PM
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45. My advice


Get one quick. Without a certified tin foil hat, you will be susceptible to the BFEE mind control satellites beaming their zombifiying x-ray signals into your brain. How do you think the Freepers got that way? No one's born that dumb. Their brains just finally got totally fried because they ventured outside without proper tin foil hat protection.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:41 PM
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43. Too late for the traitors
some of US took names, and spread them around.

All power to the people, like it says in the Constitution.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:44 PM
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44. I got right in...
and then ran screaming back out...
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Sliverofhope Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-12-03 11:48 PM
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46. OMG! I can't get it either
I grabbed Rebuilding Americans Defenses. I'm glad others did too. Woah. This is a good sign, I think.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:01 AM
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49. Can't get in either
something's fishy...
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DagmarK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:04 AM
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50. We need to create a whole new shadow PNAC site.......
and link it in google........

The entirety of these evildoers' plans must be preserved.

I think they purposely took the site down. These lies about WMD are bringing them all down.....and the bad guys need to start separating their cabal-dom as much as possible. We can't let them get away with that.

Remember how they needed Perle to step down from the chair of the (shoot, I forgot what defense chair that was). Anyways.....things were getting hot and suddenly all the PNACers started shutting up....William Kristol hasn't done an interview since.

Well.....we just really need to keep this stuff up for the world to see.......

A shadow site folks.......... call it: PNAC-revisited.com????
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:17 AM
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52. We've been here before
It went down for a few days several months ago, then came back up w/ a few changes. I remember at that time, many of us had already d/l'd most of the site, complete w/ screen shots.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 12:51 AM
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53. I've tried all those things. Nothing works. What's up?????
Well, now, something ELSE smells...
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:18 AM
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55. I got in just fine
eom
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:18 AM
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56. I got in just fine
eom
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absolutezero Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:25 AM
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57. can't find it
It's showing up on msn search and yahoo but i can't access the site from NJ
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tico Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 01:29 AM
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58. I got in...
...and went right back out. But seeing that thees posts was earlier in the evening, it may've been something temporary.
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no_arbusto Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 02:38 AM
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59. Still can't access it in CA.
Is a backbone down or something? Why can some people get it and others can't? Maybe Poindexter has blocked my IP! :tinfoilhat:
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:13 AM
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60. Maybe God shut them down?
He/she has to be pretty pissed at those criminals
I can't get in either, but I have a hard copy of everything :evilgrin:
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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-13-03 05:42 AM
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61. not able to access
from Illinois. ???????
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