Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

could Cruz Bustamante help Lieberman in CA ?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:55 AM
Original message
could Cruz Bustamante help Lieberman in CA ?
since bustamante endorsed lieberman ? i mean mostly if bustmante ends up winning most votes, and especially if recall also passes and he becomes governor. he will get a lot of attention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:57 AM
Response to Original message
1. Isn't he the Calf. chair of Lieberman's campaign?
I thought I read that somewhere. If that is true, then yes this helps Lieberman. I guess the big thing now is to stop the recall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:00 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. he endorsed lieberman, so probably is
and he is the second top official in california (if you take out senators feinstein and boxer).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:09 AM
Response to Original message
3. at best Cruz will win the recall election
with 30-35 percent of the vote. In a heavily democratic state and being the only significant democrat on the ballot--that ain't so good. I don't see California as a Lieberman state even with Cruz's active support as Governor of California. Besides if he wins he is going to be pretty busy on other matters.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:39 AM
Response to Original message
4. That remains to be seen.....
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 09:43 AM by liberalnurse
Bustamante just turned self-serving as he wants to reject the vote no on the recall. It appears he and Lieberman have similarities amongst the party peers....

If he looses, which I now think he will, then Lieberman won't want to be seen on the same side of the street with him...Not even a DINO would....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. what ?
you said he wants to reject the "vote no on the recall". where did you hear that ? you might have misunderstood. bustamante is opposed to the recall. in fact if he supported it some loyal democrats may not vote for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:28 AM
Response to Reply #5
11. It was in a previous post this am and just on MSNBC...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:45 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. what ?
you said he wants to reject the "vote no on the recall". where did you hear that ? you might have misunderstood. bustamante is opposed to the recall. in fact if he supported it some loyal democrats may not vote for him.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:36 AM
Response to Reply #4
12. That is not correct.
Bustamante is not rejecting a no vote on the recall. He is simply going to campaign as a candidate in his own right. He is urging a no on the recall, but believes that he should focus on his own campaign. I agree with this. Every Democrat is fighting the recall. But Bustamante also needs to ensure that we don't get some kook in the governor's office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:54 AM
Response to Original message
7. Nope
Lieberman is toast here in CA and NOTHING can jump-start his candidacy. My guess is that he's out after New Hampshire, if not before. Bustamonte is a double-edged sword. On the one hand, his appeal to Latino voters (Latino voter registration up 300% since Cruz announced) will, most likely, save our ass from the Republicans overturning ANOTHER election. On the other hand, Cruz has made some pretty powerful enemies in this state for a variety of reasons. He just made more by dropping his "no on recall" AND he just lost some Democratic voters. I don't see Latinos backing Lieberman over the other Dem. candidates, despite what Cruz may say. My guess is that after Lieberman drops out, Cruz will go for Kerry.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. dropping "no on recall" ?
someone else mentioned this, but i haven't really been watching the news. i live in california also so would like to know what this is all about.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ernesto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:16 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. You should check
the LBN forum
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #8
10. He announced that Monday
and it was a huge mistake, IMHO -- it makes him an accessory to this recall debacle. I completely understood the reasons for his candidacy -- we needed a viable Democrat in Part 2 of the ballot when Davis loses the recall effort; however, now he's being an enabler. Needless to say, Lockyer and Angelides are fit to be tied over this. Sorry, I'm too lazy to find a link but I think it's still in LBN.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #10
13. Ack! He's not supporting or enabling the recall!
The media are hyping this thing. He's campaigning in his own rigfht. So what? We have two shots at this thing. We need to win one of these, preferably the recall. But it's not anti-party or anti-Davis for Bustamante to campaign for the governor's race. He's making sure that Davis' enemies do not get into office.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 10:39 AM
Response to Original message
14. Won't really help Lieberman.
I'm very supportive of Bustamante's candidacy, but I don't support Lieberman. I don't think that this will matter too much. People will decide based upon the candidate's positions and how they fare in debating eachother, reaching out to the people and so on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 04:46 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC