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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:01 PM
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What % of the world population
would be indifferent or rather pleased if a very large bomb exploded within the green zone? They perhaps have a different take on "support the troops". This post is not attempting to ruffle any feathers but to contemplate our relationship to the world. I doubt the killing of 150,000 innocent Iraqi's is justification for the promise of democracy in the eyes of outsiders.
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:04 PM
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1. the green zone?
Excuse me, but what is the green zone?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:05 PM
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2. Its the secure zone in which the US governs Iraq
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:06 PM
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3. Small bombs go off every day...
and no one seems to give a shit.

They might notice a larger one.

A really, really big one.

Or, they might not.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:07 PM
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4. If you consider democracy to be the installment of rule
by the American dollar, then yes, they shall have democracy. Mr. Bremer's form of democracy is a fraud.

http://www.occupationwatch.org/article.php?id=5972
The (New and Improved) Bremer Orders

A sampling of the most important Orders demonstrates the economic imprint left behind by Bremer:

Order #39 allows for the following: (1) privatization of Iraq's 200 state-owned enterprises; (2) 100 percent foreign ownership of Iraqi businesses; (3) "national treatment" of foreign firms; (4) unrestricted, tax-free remittance of all profits and other funds; and (5) 40-year ownership licenses. Thus, it allows the U.S. corporations operating in Iraq to own every business, do all of the work, and send all of their money home. Nothing needs to be reinvested locally to service the Iraqi economy, no Iraqi need be hired, no public services need be guaranteed, and workers' rights can easily be ignored. And corporations can take out their investments at any time.

Order #40 turns the banking sector from a state-run to a market-driven system overnight by allowing foreign banks to enter the Iraqi market and to purchase up to 50 percent of Iraqi banks.

Order #49 drops the tax rate on corporations from a high of 40 percent to a flat rate of 15 percent. The income tax rate is also capped at 15 percent.

Order #12 enacted on June 7, 2003 and renewed on February 24, 2004, suspends "all tariffs, customs duties, import taxes, licensing fees and similar surcharges for goods entering or leaving Iraq, and all other trade restrictions that may apply to such goods." This led to an immediate and dramatic inflow of cheap consumer products, which has essentially wiped out all local providers of the same products. This could have significant long-term implications for domestic production as well.

Order #17 grants foreign contractors, including private security firms, full immunity from Iraq 's laws. Even if they do injure a third party by killing someone or causing environmental damage such as dumping toxic chemicals or poisoning drinking water, the injured third party can not turn to the Iraqi legal system, rather, the charges must be brought to U.S. courts under U.S. laws.

Order #77 established the Board of Supreme Audit and named its president and his two deputies. The Board oversees inspectors in every Ministry with wide-ranging authority to review government contracts, audit classified programs, and prescribe regulations and procedures.

Order #57 created and appointed an inspector within every Iraqi Ministry with five-year terms who can perform audits, write policies, and have full access to all offices, materials, and employees of the Ministries.
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:08 PM
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5. about 1 % of Americans
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:14 PM
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6. About 80% of the rest of the world....they really, really don't like us!
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:15 PM
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7. 80%.... have facts to back that up?
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:17 PM
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8. Instead of the Green Zone,
"What percentage of the world's population would be indifferent or pleased that a very large bomb exploded within the continental United States?"
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DistantWind88 Donating Member (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 06:19 PM
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9. Honestly who cares?
Just like most Americans don't care if a bomb exploded in Kiev. It DOESN'T affect us.
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