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Peak_Oil Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:42 PM
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Denver Post article disputing Churchill's Indian ancestry
His claims of Indian heritage, which remain unconfirmed by anyone other than Churchill, as well as the shifting tales of his military service, remain the source of public debate as Churchill battles calls for his resignation or dismissal.

Churchill, who has asserted at different times that he was of one-sixteenth Creek or three-sixteenths Cherokee ancestry, now refuses to discuss anything about his past or questions about his academic qualifications.

"None of those questions are relevant to anything," Churchill said Tuesday. "This is not an issue about me. This is an issue about what I said. I'm not going to turn it into the ... National Enquirer."

http://www.denverpost.com/Stories/0,1413,36%257E23827%257E2702788,00.html?search=filter

It's all about the source, no?
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:44 PM
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1. Did the 1 drop rule apply to Indians?
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 09:47 PM by donheld
I think it did. And yes it is about what he said. Truth is painful. Especially the kind of truth he told.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:45 PM
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2. Ya gotta admit that all of this publicity will help the sales of
Churchill's book,which I assume he will be smart enough to write ASAP.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:45 PM
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3. And it matters, because?
I guess if you can't argue with the guy...
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:52 PM
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4. Give me dirty laundry
I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something-something I can use
People love it when you lose,
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor, but I wound up here
I just have to look good, I don’t have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry

Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down
Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down
Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down
Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em all around

We got the bubble-headed-bleach-blonde who
Comes on at five
She can tell you ’bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It’s interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation?
Is the head dead yet?
You know, the boys in the newsroom got a
Running bet
Get the widow on the set!
We need dirty laundry

You don’t really need to find out what’s going on
You don’t really want to know just how far it’s gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry

Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down
Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down

Kick ’em when they’re up
Kick ’em when they’re down
Kick ’em when they’re stiff
Kick ’em all around

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers in everybody’s pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do the innuendo
We can dance and sing
When it’s said and done we haven’t told you a thing
We all know that crap is king
Give us dirty laundry!


By Don Henley
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:18 PM
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8. He ain't no REAL Injun anyway!
Unless we can PROVE IT by his DNA!
Don't listen to what he say
Give us dirty laundry!
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azndndude Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:32 PM
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10. Injun is a derogatory name from a REAL 100% Indigenous person
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:34 PM
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11. I suspect the point of that comment
Was to mimic the attitudes of those trying to tear him down and not the real attitudes of the poster.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:55 PM
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5. What purpose does this thread serve?
What are you trying to achieve by starting this thread? It would help if you were to explicate a discussion topic, instead of just posting an article on an already contentious topic. Would you please do so that this thread doesn't end up in another flame war?


And yes, the source does matter.
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Peak_Oil Donating Member (666 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:07 PM
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6. The last two threads you started
were locked before they hit ten replies. I find it interesting that you're planning on teaching me how to not be contentious.

The reason I'm posting this thread is because I find Churchill's character to be lacking. He's consistently shown himself to be dishonest, and I don't like the cut of his jib.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:15 PM
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12. The last two threads I started?
I think you might be replying to the wrong person.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:57 PM
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14. Ah - I see what you were looking at.
They were archived - not locked.
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:09 PM
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7. The Post is far wrong wing.
Not much of a source, IMNSHO.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:19 PM
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9. Apparently the AIM doesn't think he's Native American either
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:45 PM
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13. Open your (#*$&'in eyes
Here's a prancing little man giving himself woodies with his infantile power fantasies wherein he decides which "Little Eichmann's" deserve to be "neutralized." He gives himself a Native background so that he can exempt himself from the judgment he dispenses to everyone else in the fucking country. He's the most dime-a-dozen sub-fascistic buffoon this side of "Jeff Gannon," and it takes a jackass to take him seriously
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