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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:26 PM
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PNAC- Project for the New American Century
As astounding as it seems there are millions of Amerikans that have never heard of this, even those that post on DU, so here it is for the umpteenth time.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:27 PM
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1. It should be read alongside "Mein Kampf".
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:28 PM
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2. My sign at an anti-war rally prior to the war...
...said "who elected the PNAC?"

Many people in the march did not know what it stood for.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:29 PM
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3. I too find it amazing how many people I run across IRL who
oppose the Bush administration but have no clue what the Project for the New America Century is. Makes one wonder what some "fence sitting" nominal Bush supporters would make of it. I turn people on to that as often as I can. It's....icky. Beyond icky.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:33 PM
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4. Here's A Good Info Link:
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:51 PM
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13. Very good link
should help to open some eyes !
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:34 PM
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5. Yes, you are quite correct.
I cannot tell you the number of my co-workers that I have had to inform about the PNAC and their neo-con agenda... And to think that it was signed by none other than some of the most influential members of this government.... I am shocked at the amount of people who know none of this -- despite its relevance for informing the masses that there was a plan for the "American global hegemony" before they high-jacked our republic. Nonetheless, most do not heed my calls and fail to read or understand the gravity of the information on that site.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:39 PM
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8. The Corp Media purposefully refrains from...
educating Amerikans. It is to their best interest to keep Amerikans ignorant of the machinations of the Fascist Govt. that they have helped place in power. Who owns the Mass Media? Do some of your own research and expand your knowledge.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:36 PM
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6. Good starting point: the Demopedia.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 10:07 PM
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27. How disappointing
One or more of the following should be posted to that:

PNAC - The Links Archive
http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=3021&forum=DCForumID12&archive=

NEW: PNAC Links Archive (Redux)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=110&topic_id=80

New to DU? Here's your =======> Intro to PNAC (Stephanie)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=301411

A repost thread: New to DU? Here's your =======> Intro to PNAC
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1069536


I hope someone who does the Demopedia stuff will do that. Otherwise, it was lookin' pretty good.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 11:07 PM
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28. I was expecting to find those very links in the Demopedia.
You should submit them.
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:36 PM
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7. And basically, I'm sorry to say, if you don't know what this is
You're opinions about american foreign policy are built on sand.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:39 PM
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9. That's it in a nutshell
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clem_c_rock Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:45 PM
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11. And honestly, if you want to argue the Bush regime
Was non-complacent in 911 and you don't know anything about the PNAC, you're opinion is laughable at best.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:44 PM
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10. These are Really Bad People
Rebuilding America's Defenses p.60

"advanced forms of biological warfare that can "target" specific
genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror
to a politically useful tool."

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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:50 PM
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26. I know --
it astonishes me that there's anyone on the planet who can READ that and not be outraged, and it astonishes me even more that there are people who can actually promote such an idea.

What a sicko world this can be. They are no better than barbarians, or Hitler.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 06:45 PM
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12. It astounds me
That the signers think they can get away with it. Do they really think they're going to take down China? Even North Korea is showing its collective butt.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:05 PM
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14. Evil incarnate!
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 07:08 PM by hootinholler
My awakening is why I started The Legacy Papers campaign. This is a guerilla marketing flier distribution campaign. Each is intended to to print on one 8.5x11 sheet of paper. I've been leaving them at gas stations, newpaper racks, grocery stores, bulliten boards, bars (hey, a man can get thirsty pimpin fliers) and anywhere else I can think of. There is only one so far, but there will be more to follow.

You can get the first one as either html or PDF.

PLEASE be mindfull of the bandwidth, I lost my employment contract Jan 30, so I'm doing this on the cheap.

I will start a new thread with the text.

-Hoot
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:14 PM
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15. Good for you Hootinholler
We are the ones charged to be "the presses" in this battle. The word has to get out, and the corporate media isn't going to do the job that needs to be done.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:28 PM
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21. Thank you...
The pdf version isn't very large suitable to be emailed as well. Please help distribute them.

-Hoot
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:20 PM
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17. Like the White Rose
leaflets in Germany in the early 40's.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 08:26 PM
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20. Yes very similar...
That is the legacy I want if we cannot stop this train.

The thread with the text of the first paper is here.

-Hoot
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:16 PM
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16. You want American leadership? Bring back Clinton!!!!
sick fucks :puke:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:25 PM
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18. Clinton? Bill or Hillary?
No thanks. I prefer real Dems not Rethug Lites.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 07:26 PM
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19. Bill.. Like him or not, he was a respected leader around the world.
polar opposite of *
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:08 PM
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22. Yup. Keep the most important info out for newbies and msm trawlers.
Edited on Fri Feb-11-05 09:09 PM by JohnOneillsMemory
Some of us have known all this for a few years and forget it needs to be spread.

When Air America Radio hosts went off on the new pre-9/11 warnings scandal, I remembered that not everyone knows about the NORAD exercises the morning of 9/11 that took away the air cover and confused the communication channels, Operation Vigilant Warrior.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1587996
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:14 PM
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23. What's really astounding is that when
I explained and showed the PNAC website to some right wing co-workers they told me that it was probably made up by some liberals to make the administration look bad. Try arguing with that logic!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:32 PM
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24. PNAC are the NeoCons
When Richard Perle, one of the major players of PNAC, is on Hardball why is he never asked about PNAC? Why is it never explained by Tweety? Isn't part of his job to educate his viewers instead of merely spouting off RW taling points?
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-05 09:40 PM
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25. The right wing will be blaming the left for letting it happen.
You know, 'if you knew about it and how wrong it was, then why didn't you do anything to stop it?'
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 09:29 AM
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30. Tell your co-workers other RW-ers think the PNAC plans are a-ok,
since it promotes Reaganism and US global domination, which happens to be exactly what the Bush regime is doing now.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 08:51 AM
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29. Kick!
:kick:
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:24 AM
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31. PNAC and the Neocon Agenda DU group just started Friday link
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=307

Lots of great info on this thread here, but more importantly some good minds here. We need your help in this new group which Im sure will be submitting plenty to Demopedia over time.

Please everyone, we need your help over there!

Thank You!
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Buddyblazon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:50 AM
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32. Whenever RWer's start going on about all the reasons we had to go...
into Iraq...I tell them about the PNAC. Then I give them the link.

Most of them won't read it (although I believe none of them will...but a handful will say they did). When I explain to them what it is and who has signed it...the most common reaction I get is what I like to call the "Rainman" response:
they start shrieking, "NO NO NO NO NO NO NO....!", while inflicting some sort of bodily harm on themselves...i.e. punching self in head, smashing head against wall repeatedly.

I had one guy that I had been arguing with online. Finally, I dropped the A-Bomb on him (the PNAC). He comes back in ten minutes....says he read it...and states, "interesting stuff. It's of no interest to me.". WTF?! Ten mins. You read the whole thing...no interest. What a goose-stepper.

He reminded me of that old skit from SNL about the Broadway show of that hypnotist. "I...loved...it...it...was...much...better...than...Cats. I...want...to...see...it...again...and...again.".
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-05 01:46 PM
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33. kick
n/t
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