You know what I REALLY love about all this?

[Bouncy Ball]

The focus on the media. I know, the BIGGER focus is on and should be on the bush administration.

But hold on.......most of us agree the mainstream media is a HUGE part of the problem in the US today. With RARE exception, they have become lazy and increasingly incompetent. Really solid investigative journalism is going the way of the dodo bird, and we all know about propaganda pushers like FUX "news" that too many Americans assume is real and unbiased.

So. If we start honing in on the media, start going after the worst of the worst, and cause all kind of implosions, and ESPECIALLY with so many of these media problems TIED to the bush administration (pay for propaganda, letting a non-credentialed person operating under a psuedonym into the WH press corps, etc), it's only a matter of time.

First, convince the general public they need to be suspicious, VERY suspicious of the mainstream media. Convince more and more of them to turn them off in disgust.

Then you'll see some fireworks.

[bozeman]

1. In some ways it's best that Bush won

Now we can hold their feet to the fire...we can make them pay for their immoral and debased lies.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

3. Welcome to DU, Bozeman

I've read two of your posts so far and I like the way you think.
:hi: :yourock:

[Bouncy Ball]

4. I agree and have felt that way from the beginning.

A few days after the election, I felt pretty happy because I suddenly realized:

a) I no longer had a candidate running I had to "behave" for to try to convince people to vote for him

b) bush was now a lame duck. Nothing at stake for him OR me. I was free to now TOTALLY lambast and villify the man even more loudly and strongly than I EVER have before.

Great fun! (Except for all the death, destruction, and depravity bush causes, that is...)

[newyawker99]

15. Hi bozeman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[fertilizeonarbusto]

2. Yes, yes, yes!

Again, ad nauseam, I quote Karl Rove: "Hit them where they are strongest." You land a good blow there and everything else goes to hell. They are strongest in their control of the media. Learn from the enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bouncy Ball]

5. You said it better than I did.

They are strongest in their control of the media.

Whoever controls that, controls it ALL.

And personally, I'd rather us go back to NEITHER party controlling the media (not that Democrats ever really did).

Journalists need to become journalists again or get the hell out of the business.

Oh and I learn from the enemy alright. Been watching them and their techniques my WHOLE life.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

6. I can tell

I actually have hope for the first time in ages.
And I think you put it damn well yourself!

[flying_monkeys]

7. But Joe Sixpack won't get suspicious.

He is too busy adding up his $400 a kid in tax cuts and doesn't really care if the media is truthful or not. So long as we keep those "terrorists" away from downtown Boise, Idaho and he has enough extra dollars to go to the Steak and Ale once in a while, he will be happy in his ignorance.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

8. just wait

I get a feeling this is the little leak that will make all the shit spill out. And you must admit there is SO much shit that only the very dumbest will remain complacent.

[Bouncy Ball]

10. EVERYONE has their breaking point.

EVERYONE.

The MOST clueless will NEVER get it. But most people eventually will. Of this I am sure. They will get it on SOME level. They will not become activists or disrupt their lives over it, but the day that something snaps in them like a tiny dry twig is the day they look at the media differently.

And it's all downhill from there.

[McKenzie]

9. I reckon it's a deliberate policy

to feed the media with sensationalist drivel. All it takes is editorial control and the stuff is swilling (sic) about everywhere. The staffers know it's drivel but they just have to play along. And look at the massive corporate interests in the media...note how government troubles are often followed by media titillation about something that doesn't really matter.

John Lennon had a nice take on this possibility of diverting people from the real world...

"And you think you're so clever and classless and free
but you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see
they keep you doped with sex, religion and tv"

</rant>

[Bouncy Ball]

11. Wow, those are great lines

and chillingly appropriate.

:cry:

[yodermon]

14. Working Class Hero

As soon as you’re born they make you feel small
By giving you no time instead of it all
Till the pain is so big you feel nothing at all
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be
They hurt you at home and they hit you at school
They hate you if you’re clever and they despise a fool
Till you’re so fucking crazy you can’t follow their rules
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

When they’ve tortured and scared you for twenty odd years
Then they expect you to pick a career
When you can’t really function you’re so full of fear
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

Keep you doped with religion and sex and tv
And you think you’re so clever and classless and free
But you’re still fucking peasants as far as I can see
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

There’s room at the top they are telling you still
But first you must learn how to smile as you kill
If you want to be like the folks on the hill
A working class hero is something to be
A working class hero is something to be

If you want to be a hero well just follow me
If you want to be a hero well just follow me

-John Lennon

[giant_robot]

12. Where is the outrage from the other WH correspondents?

I know if I were a "real" journalist, with a real education, and a career successful enough to win me a coveted spot in the WH press corps, I'd be trying like hell to distance myself from Gannon. In order to preserve my own credibility, I'd be pointing out to the public how inadequate Gannon's journalistic credentials, skills, and integrity were, and contrast that with the credentials, skills and integrity most need to even get into a press conference. And I'd be pissed off.

If the WH press corps don't stand up for themselves over the Gannon incident, then they truly have become tools of the administration.

[Bouncy Ball]

13. I'd be SO pissed off.

Imagine if they let someone in your profession who had NO credentials, no training, and you worked your ASS off to be there.

Well, I'm not sure any of the WH press corps works their ass off, but you know what I mean.